Rising fascism in the US

You can love or hate this Milo guy and agree or disagree with his stated opinions, but HE is not the issue.

When Bannon says that Briebart "has given a platform to the alt.right" (a statement that has been repeated--with feigned or real horror--ad nauseum by mainstream media) , which "alt.right" is he referring to, ya think?

Bannon has called the alt-right a smarter version of old-school racist skinheads.

You point out that Milo Yiannopoulos, when pressed on the issue, tells us all that the alt-right is nothing like that.

When confronted with Milo's sexist, hateful, misogynist rhetoric, now you're arguing Yiannopoulos isn't the issue. Presumably we should only listen to him when he says that the alt-right is in no way sexist or hateful or misogynist or racist, but not when he personally propagates many of the things the alt-right is being accused of.

Isn't that interesting.

When confronted with Milo's sexist, hateful, misogynist rhetoric,

Perhaps you have become a bit too wussified with all the PC nonsense.

old europe wrote:
Bannon has called the alt-right a smarter version of old-school racist skinheads.
When and where?
In other words, prove it, bluffer.

There are many things that separate the alternative right from old-school racist skinheads (to whom they are often idiotically compared), but one thing stands out above all else: intelligence. Skinheads, by and large, are low-information, low-IQ thugs driven by the thrill of violence and tribal hatred. The alternative right are a much smarter group of people — which perhaps suggests why the Left hates them so much. They’re dangerously bright.

The origins of the alternative right can be found in thinkers as diverse as Oswald Spengler, H.L Mencken, Julius Evola, Sam Francis, and the paleoconservative movement that rallied around the presidential campaigns of Pat Buchanan. The French New Right also serve as a source of inspiration for many leaders of the alt-right.

The media empire of the modern-day alternative right coalesced around Richard Spencer during his editorship of Taki’s Magazine. In 2010, Spencer founded AlternativeRight.com, which would become a center of alt-right thought.

Alongside other nodes like Steve Sailer’s blog, VDARE and American Renaissance, AlternativeRight.com became a gathering point for an eclectic mix of renegades who objected to the established political consensus in some form or another. All of these websites have been accused of racism.

There are many far worse things going on in the world today than the words Yiannopoulos actually uttered. No one was injured

Perhaps you have become a bit too wussified with all the PC nonsense.

You never did answer my question.

He said that he, personally, is NOT alt.right.

The goal is to ethnically cleanse White nations of non-Whites and establish an authoritarian government. Many people also believe that the Jews should be exterminated.

Do you need more?

. Pointing out the central role of Richard Spencer in the alt-right movement.

From the NYT

Quote:

Stephen K. Bannon, the executive chairman of Breitbart News, whom Mr. Trump has picked as his chief White House strategist, told an interviewer in July that he considered Breitbart a “platform for the alt-right.” Perhaps we should not make too much of this. Mr. Bannon may have meant something quite different by the term. Last summer “alt-right,” though it carried overtones of extremism, was not an outright synonym for ideologies like Mr. Spencer’s. But in late August, Hillary Clinton devoted a speech to the alt-right, calling it simply a new label for an old kind of white supremacy that Mr. Trump was shamelessly exploiting....

Until Hillary Clinton’s speech last summer, a similarly broad idea prevailed of what the alt-right was. The Southern Poverty Law Center’s webpage on the movement traces some of its roots to libertarian followers of Ron Paul and traditionalist Christians... Understood this way, the alt-right did look as if it might be a pillar of Mr. Bannon’s world Tea Party.

Not even the former Breitbart editor at large Ben Shapiro, who has become an energetic critic of Mr. Bannon and his agenda, says that Mr. Bannon is himself a racist or an anti-Semite. Mr. Shapiro considers fears that Mr. Bannon will bring white nationalism to the White House “overstated, at the very least.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/opinion/sunday/what-the-alt-right-really-means.html?_r=0

Resorting to cheap, transparent sophistry, Clinton (1) falsely equated the term "alt.right" with "white supremacy" and then (2) portrayed Bannon (and hence Trump) as reflective of that, simply because Bannon had used the same term in an entirely different sense.

If she didn't fool anyone else, she certainly fooled her supporters (which includes virtually the entire media). But I don't think the media was "fooled" at all. They, like her, saw this formula for smearing Trump with cynically amoral sophistry as being a useful tool for misleading others.

.. praised the alt-right as a “smarter” version of “old-school racist skinheads.”

Do you need more?

Kind of funny to read in retrospect, this implied complaint about how outrageous it is that Richard Spencer's AlternativeRight.com could possibly be accused of racism. Of course, after Spencer's “Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory!” white supremacist rant, the new take on the issue - as modeled here by layman - is to simply say "Richard Who?" and to deny that Spencer even speaks for the alt-right.

Elsewhere on the internet, another fearsomely intelligent group of thinkers prepared to assault the secular religions of the establishment: the neoreactionaries...

The purpose of the blog was to explore ways to apply the latest research on cognitive science to overcome human bias, including bias in political thought and philosophy...

Led by philosopher Nick Land and computer scientist Curtis Yarvin, this group began a gleeful demolition of the age-old biases of western political discourse. Liberalism, democracy and egalitarianism were all put under the microscope of the neoreactionaries, who found them wanting.

Asking people to see each other as human beings rather than members of a demographic in-group, meanwhile, ignored every piece of research on tribal psychology.

While they can certainly be accused of being overly-eager to bridge the gap between fact and value (the truth of tribal psychology doesn’t necessarily mean we should embrace or encourage it), these were the first shoots of a new conservative ideology — one that many were waiting for.

...natural conservatives’ concern with the flourishing of their own culture comes up against an intractable nemesis in the regressive left...

Alt-righters describe establishment conservatives who care more about the free market than preserving western culture, and who are happy to endanger the latter with mass immigration where it serves the purposes of big business, as “cuckservatives.”...

It’s true that Donald Trump would not be possible without the oppressive hectoring of the progressive Left, but the entire media is to blame for the environment in which this new movement has emerged.

For decades, the concerns of those who cherish western culture have been openly ridiculed and dismissed as racist....

The Left can’t language-police and name-call them away, which have for the last twenty years been the only progressive responses to dissent, and the Right can’t snobbishly dissociate itself from them and hope they go away either.

He freely acknowledges, in the video that there is "some overlap" on the "very fringes" of KKK types with what he calls "alt.right," which expressly DENIES that it plays a central role.

I notice that you have a habit of failing to provide a link to sources from which you take excerpts.

The media empire of the modern-day alternative right coalesced around Richard Spencer during his editorship of Taki’s Magazine. In 2010, Spencer founded AlternativeRight.com, which would become a center of alt-right thought.

Bannon has called the alt-right a smarter version of old-school racist skinheads.