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Rising fascism in the US

 
 
glitterbag
 
  1  
Sun 29 Oct, 2017 02:07 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Quote:
I didn’t label anyone as a fascist.... You don’t even take yourself seriously, why do you think I should?


Do you know what thread you are in? Just look at the title?

Whether you take me seriously or not is your business. You do seem to keep responding to my posts.... just sayin'.


Can anyone put this into simple English for me? I have no idea what it means.
BillW
 
  1  
Sun 29 Oct, 2017 02:51 pm
@glitterbag,
I don't try glitterbag. He's on "Ignore". I just don't deal with stupid!
oralloy
 
  -3  
Sun 29 Oct, 2017 03:51 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
The left wing in the United States just lost an election to Donald J. Trump. An idiot with no qualifications who makes crude remarks on camera and says whatever he has to say to get support. He isn't a fascist, he is a reality TV buffoon, his comments are all over the map.

The reason that the left lost the election is because to much of America, the left is more ridiculous than Donald Trump. Running around calling everyone a fascist is not a way to show that you can lead the country. The election was lost the moment that Hillary Clinton called out "deplorables". She was basically saying "Vote for me because they are Fascists!". And now we have at 4 years of Donald Trump (and 8 if you keep this bullshit up).

It'll be more than just 8 years of Trump (although it'll certainly be that as well). Leftist extremism is going to ensure 20 years of Republican rule.


maxdancona wrote:
Instead of this constant outrage and hysteria, let's have a reasonable progressive movement that provides responsible and practical policy ideas while listening to and reaching out to other constituencies to look for common ground.

You're out of touch with the Democratic Party. For the next 20 years they choose to be the party of nutty extremism.

But I'm curious, does this call for reason include abandoning the Democrats' reckless assault against the Second Amendment?
maxdancona
 
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Sun 29 Oct, 2017 04:11 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

I don't try glitterbag. He's on "Ignore". I just don't deal with stupid!


Ironically that seems to be all he deals with... but he won't read this. The ideological bubble runs deep in this one.

Actually BillW is pretty smart. Instead of getting in these sniping matches with people who don't agree with him, he just tunes them out. You might learn something from him. You could put me on ignore too, Glitterbag. The echo chamber works better when anyone who has a differing opinion is blocked out.

Go 'head. Hit that ignore button.


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maxdancona
 
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Sun 29 Oct, 2017 04:19 pm
@oralloy,
I think you are being just as silly as they are O'ralloy. Before Trump... Barack Hussein Obama kicked the Republican's asses soundly two times. Obama had success reaching out across ideological lines (as shown by his two electoral victories). You might disagree with that, but that is your ideological bubble.

I believe that if the Progressives and the Democrats get their act together, they will win. The question is whether they can let go of the hysteria and outrage enough to build another winning coalition the same way that Obama did. This thread, and the need to attack anyone who is in the middle, makes me question whether that will happen.

Obama ran an inclusive campaign. Hillary ran an exclusive campaign. That's the difference.



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Lash
 
  -1  
Sun 29 Oct, 2017 06:52 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

Setanta wrote:

glitterbag wrote:
. . .your belief everyone you don’t like is like a fascist . . .


A lot of people around here do that--in fact, that's what this thread was all about, originally.


In that case, let's take a test of this administration:

Characteristics Of Fascism
By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Source Free Inquiry.co
5-28-3


Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

From Liberty Forum

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_constitution&Number=642
109&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1&t=-1

Check yes to all as being true or there is an attempt by this Administration with Congressional help to make it so!

There is evidence of each of these items.

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Lash
 
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Mon 30 Oct, 2017 02:47 am
https://www.truthdig.com/videos/chris-hedges-robert-scheer-discuss-silencing-left-video/

In the latest episode of "On Contact," Truthdig columnist Chris Hedges and Truthdig Editor in Chief Robert Scheer examine the "New McCarthyism" directed at suppressing the left-wing press.

"This time, it's not coming from the rabid right wing, the Joe McCarthys of the Republican Party, but from the Democratic Party," Hedges, the host of "On Contact," said.

"I consider this one of the most frightening moments, and I've been around a long time," Scheer said. "I spent 29 years at the Los Angeles Times, legacy media, as a reporter and columnist. And I want to make one thing clear: Fake news has always been a problem. Fake news comes from governments all over the world, particularly when it deals with national security."

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izzythepush
 
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Mon 30 Oct, 2017 03:23 am
@glitterbag,
Think of a troublesome teenager, any attention whether good or bad is what they crave.

Max thinks the fact that you can be bothered to talk to him at all is proof he actually has something to say.

It's the last gasp of the insignificant.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 04:04 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
It's the last gasp of the insignificant.

You extremists get so childish when people post facts that you don't like.
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 30 Oct, 2017 05:38 am
The last gasp of the insignificant followed by the bot in training
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Lash
 
  -1  
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 06:31 am
The controlling power structure pushing emerging fascism.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/americas-deep-state-unaccountable-shadow-government/5421500/amp

The Deep State that he describes is a type of largely unaccountable shadow or parallel government that operates at the international and domestic levels as a driver for policies in our so-called democracies. It functions outside the reach of constitutional law, and it requires top-down forces of public repression. Today, the Deep State arguably supersedes the public government in power and importance.

Corporate media monopolies themselves are appendages of deep state, as they set narrow agendas and censor through omission, some of the most important issues facing civilization. Not surprisingly, some of these momentous but censored issues are also deep state issues.
Olivier5
 
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Mon 30 Oct, 2017 10:17 am
@Lash,
From your link:

Quote:
the tragic false-flag events of September 11, 2001 — another structural deep state event.


Lunatics...
Lash
 
  0  
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 10:25 am
@Olivier5,
I don’t believe everything they do.

But the smartest minds today, Kennedy, Eisenhower et al warned about the Deep State/MIC and they’re all right.

You believe it, too.
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Lash
 
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Mon 30 Oct, 2017 10:31 am
I will add this, though.

Our government has proven they’ve considered false flag operations against the US citizens.

Not sure if you’ve checked out the released JFK files.

I’ve never considered variable realities re 911. Don’t ever intend to.
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cameronleon
 
  -1  
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 11:58 am
@maxdancona,
Quote:
I think you are being just as silly as they are O'ralloy. Before Trump... Barack Hussein Obama kicked the Republican's asses soundly two times. Obama had success reaching out across ideological lines (as shown by his two electoral victories). You might disagree with that, but that is your ideological bubble.


President Barack Obama has been a tsunami that desolated the minds of millions of people when the waters receded.

Today, liberals' minds are like what is left from flooded brains with malfunction, like atomic clocks malfunction in outer space due to a different gravity.

They thought Mrs. Hillary Clinton would supplant the tsunami and be submerged for more years in a world of corruption.

But, God is great, and in God we trust.

The fascist movement initiated by president Barack Obama died when by a righteous electoral process where candidate Donald Trump won and he became the president of US.

Instead of working together for common benefit, these former liberal fascists have decided to make a different country inside the US.

These liberals are separatists, people full with hatred, poor souls without a leader, corrupt minds without cure... mommies in our society, roaches infesting our educational centers, rats invading places of worship, dogs with rabies...

I have no pity on them.... they have got what they deserve.









farmerman
 
  2  
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 12:06 pm
@cameronleon,
give the Ruski anither bowl of Brschava with some pickled whitefish and as much vodka as he can gag down.
farmerman
 
  2  
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 12:08 pm
@Olivier5,
OH JEZUZ H CHRISSE. Is Flash wonna them WTC loonies too?
Lash
 
  0  
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 12:26 pm
@farmerman,
Nope.
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BillW
 
  1  
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 12:55 pm
@farmerman,
and, spiderman......
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