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Rising fascism in the US

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Sat 18 Mar, 2023 09:04 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Pro-Moscow voices tried to steer Ohio train disaster debat
We've witnessed that here in early February.
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Lash
 
  -3  
Sat 18 Mar, 2023 06:39 pm
Oh, the trains didn’t derail?
Toxic chemicals weren’t spewed into the air?
Animals didn’t die?
People aren’t experiencing serious adverse health problems due to the chemicals in the air?
The railway workers aren’t overworked?
The railway infrastructure is in good working order?

It didn’t happen?

I get it.
You’re all enjoying the mayhem and would like Biden to be able to incinerate the rest of the country and other countries before he dies.

Hope you’re having a ball.
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vikorr
 
  3  
Sat 18 Mar, 2023 08:01 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Jim Comer shows that the Biden family business is corruption
Quote:
There’s no possible legit reason Hallie Biden, who works as a school counselor, should have gotten a slice of the CEFC payout.
No possible reason....like familial love? What an incredibly sad, lonely person the author must be to not even comprehend familial love.

Quote:
Then there’s that mysterious last-name-only “Biden” listed as a recipient.
He did a heap of transfers to his own family. So what?

I didn't see anything that was corrupt in there. There always could be, but not based merely on what was presented.

If people judged you in the same way you judge everything else, with little but seeing what they want to see, from a perspective they want to buy into....they would think you a russian spy with a conspiracy view of the world.....oh.....wait....
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hightor
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2023 05:52 am
Quote:
Posthumanist ecology, along with posthumanism more generally, thus closes off the philosophy of praxis in the name of the leveling of all things within its flat ontology. Here there is no room left for the consideration of the long history of capitalism, colonialism, racism, imperialism, or ecological destruction, only infinite webs of vital assemblages and hyperobjects, all circulating nomadically on the same ontological plane without essential order or meaning.

Marx’s Critique of Enlightenment Humanism: A Revolutionary Ecological Perspective
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 19 Mar, 2023 06:07 am
@hightor,
Well, that explains all the crosstown traffic on my ontological plane.
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revelette1
 
  4  
Sun 19 Mar, 2023 12:09 pm
@Lash,
Here's another improbable conspiracy theory, someone took a hold of your username and has been masquerading as the real lash since Trump lost in 2020; which would explain your unfortunate slide into the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories and lack of comprehending what you read.

No one has said Russia caused the train derailment, but they spread disinformation and the right ate it up to confuse the issue of Trump's and the republicans' deregulation(s).
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revelette1
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2023 12:18 pm
As just a follow-up of sort to Trump's and republicans deregulation efforts, there was a study done on it at the Bookings institute.

Examining some of Trump’s deregulation efforts: Lessons from the Brookings Regulatory Tracker
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Lash
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2023 12:44 pm
According to the stupid propaganda piece Hightor brought, apparently caring about the derailment and toxic chemical spill in East Palestine is now considered a pro-Russian stance. It’s hard for me to believe that any American who cares about what’s being done to our fellow citizens would have the nerve to post such garbage.

Btw, the same guy who owns the Intercept owns the *group that says* they found Russia (what propaganda phrase did they use) amplified an anti American slant to the train derailment?

It was a *PRO-AMERICAN citizen* slant calling out the incompetent, legally and morally liable American government—because that is accurate news.

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coluber2001
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2023 01:07 pm
https://i.imgflip.com/6utdba.jpg
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Lash
 
  -3  
Sun 19 Mar, 2023 01:11 pm
Joe Biden is going to create a wasteland where you used to live your life.
Ukrainians are being sacrificed needlessly.
Why did our government surround Russia with military bases?
Why is Joe Biden sending troops to Taiwan?
glitterbag
 
  4  
Sun 19 Mar, 2023 01:24 pm
@Lash,
Ukrainians are being sacrificed needlessly.
Why did our government surround Russia with military bases?


Are you sure you want to discuss these matters?
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hightor
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2023 02:41 pm
Quote:
The accounts, which parroted Kremlin talking points on myriad topics, claimed without evidence that authorities in Ohio were lying about the true impact of the chemical spill. The accounts spread fearmongering posts that preyed on legitimate concerns about pollution and health effects and compared the response to the derailment with America’s support for Ukraine following its invasion by Russia.

Some of the claims pushed by the pro-Russian accounts were verifiably false, such as the suggestion that the news media had covered up the disaster or that environmental scientists traveling to the site had been killed in a plane crash. But most were more speculative, seemingly designed to stoke fear or distrust. Examples include unverified maps showing widespread pollution, posts predicting an increase in fatal cancers and others about unconfirmed mass animal die-offs.

op cit

It's difficult to see how anyone could interpret this as blaming Russia for causing the derailment. That would be stupid. And why would anyone think that concern about toxic residue and pollution from the disaster indicates a pro-Russian mentality? That's just as ignorant. FFS, the USA has train derailments almost as often as it has mass shootings. Environmental groups have been warning us about the toxins being hauled on our highways and railroads for years. Pro-rail groups (and not just rail unions) have been calling for upgrades to our rail system for just as long.

Yes, it's disgraceful that an environmental catastrophe has to occur before before anyone gets worked up about this situation. However, when tighter regulations on toxic cargo have been suggested the trucking and rail industries have resisted. Even successful attempts to tighten safety regulations have been watered down or rescinded, in order to protect profits (profits at the expense of the planet and the people). Our lawmakers are good at this – as we've seen lately with banking regulations.

Personalizing the country's long-standing victimization by the corporate sector and blaming everything on Joe Biden is childish but typical. If Russia had offered constructive criticism, or merely pointed out the shoddy condition of our railroads, that would be much different. But in this case that might hit a bit too close to home for a country which is even more challenged by decaying infrastructure and state level corruption. So better just unleash the army of trolls and let the MAGAsymps spread the divisive messages on social media.
hightor
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2023 03:39 pm
@hightor,
I wrote:
profits at the expense of the planet and the people


EDIT: profits at the expense of the biosphere

Or is that too specialized? Maybe "people and wildlife"? Biosphere sort of hints at inter-connectivity and living networks – but maybe it's too much of a "niche" term? Help me here.
BillW
 
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Sun 19 Mar, 2023 04:26 pm
@hightor,
I like "planet and people"; if you were writing an official paper, then " biosphere". If you wanted to yank Repubs chains a little more, "contributing negatively to global warming".
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blatham
 
  1  
Mon 20 Mar, 2023 04:38 pm
This guy is the leader of Canada's right wing party. See if you can spot the subtle hints of influence from the American right.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrqVRrDXoAMNZVp?format=jpg&name=medium
BillW
 
  1  
Mon 20 Mar, 2023 04:46 pm
@blatham,
Just for clarification:

"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. -wikipedia
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BillW
 
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Mon 20 Mar, 2023 04:54 pm
@blatham,
Fascism is a twentieth–century political ideology and movement based on nationalism and militarism, which emphasizes the importance of the state and the individual's overriding duty to it. It opposes communism and liberalism, and seeks to regenerate the social, cultural, and economic life of its country by instilling its citizens with a powerful sense of national identity and an unquestioning loyalty to the state and its leader. Agencies of state control, such as secret police, and sophisticated propaganda techniques are important factors in the suppression of opposition and the advancement of fascist doctrines.

who controls government? Dictator

how is government put into power? Overthrow or revolution

what roles do the people have? Not interfere with the state


who controls production of goods? The state

who controls distribution of goods? The state

major figures Benito Mussolini; Adolf Hitler

historical example Italy, 1922–1943

https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences-and-law/political-science-and-government/political-science-terms-and-concepts/fascism

blatham
 
  1  
Mon 20 Mar, 2023 07:16 pm
@BillW,
Yup. This fellow is not bright plus suffering from a real deficit in integrity.
BillW
 
  1  
Mon 20 Mar, 2023 09:48 pm
@blatham,
I hear what your saying. I just made those two posts because we have had a number of a2k posters that had said that Fascists are left wingers. Just wanted to be out ahead of them in case one showed up!
 

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