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Rising fascism in the US

 
 
Lash
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 09:10 am
Thought of the Day: The US is owned by Epstein’s clients.
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Lash
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 09:28 am
See how the US government squashed legitimate questions about COVID and suppressed facts, and controlled the narrative.

https://twitter.com/davidzweig/status/1607378386338340867?s=46&t=Usac_rcJoj6fnuyXazie1Q

1. THREAD:

THE TWITTER FILES: HOW TWITTER RIGGED THE COVID DEBATE

– By censoring info that was true but inconvenient to U.S. govt. policy
– By discrediting doctors and other experts who disagreed
– By suppressing ordinary users, including some sharing the CDC’s *own data*

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So much for misinformation disinformation…
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(Primary documents at the link)
An example:

24. In my review of internal files, I found countless instances of tweets labeled as “misleading” or taken down entirely, sometimes triggering account suspensions, simply because they veered from CDC guidance or differed from establishment views.

25. A tweet by @KelleyKga, a self-proclaimed public health fact checker, with 18K followers, was flagged as “Misleading,” and replies and likes disabled, even though it displayed the CDC’s *own data.*

26. Internal records showed that a bot had flagged the tweet, and that it received many “tattles” (what the system amusingly called reports from users). That triggered a manual review by a human who– despite the tweet showing actual CDC data–nevertheless labeled it “Misleading”

27. Tellingly, the tweet by @KelleyKga that was labeled “Misleading” was a reply to a tweet that contained actual misinformation.
Covid has never been the leading cause of death from disease in children. Yet that tweet remains on the platform, and without a “misleading” label.

28. Whether by humans or algorithms, content that was contrarian but true was still subject to getting flagged or suppressed
This tweet was labeled “Misleading,” even though the owner of this account, @_euzebiusz_, a physician, was referring to the results of a published study

There are many more reports of physicians tweeting accurate information or just the CDC’s reports (that were inconflict with the WH or Fauci’s latest statements that were banned. Many physicians were permanently banned for accurate tweets and won lawsuits.
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neptuneblue
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 09:43 am
The Atlantic's David Zweig's flawed understanding of epidemiology

"He knows full well what he is doing, he just does not care how many people he kills in order to try and pass off right wing lies as truth."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216155150
Lash
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 10:07 am
@neptuneblue,
THE TWITTER FILES: HOW TWITTER RIGGED THE COVID DEBATE

– By censoring info that was true but inconvenient to U.S. govt. policy
– By discrediting doctors and other experts who disagreed
– By suppressing ordinary users, including some sharing the CDC’s *own data*
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neptuneblue
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 10:16 am
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/14/1035915598/doctors-covid-misinformation-medical-license

This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her Medical License
September 14, 20215:01 AM ET
Heard on Morning Edition

Dr. Simone Gold discourages vaccination against COVID-19 and promotes alternative, unproven therapies. She has spent much of the past year speaking at events like this one held in West Palm Beach, Fla., in December. The conference was aimed at young people ages 15 to 25.

Last month, Dr. Simone Gold stood before a crowd at a conservative church in Thousand Oaks, Calif., and delivered a talk riddled with misinformation. She told people to avoid vaccination against the coronavirus. As an alternative, she pushed drugs that have not been proven effective at treating COVID-19 — drugs that she also offered to prescribe to the audience in exchange for $90 telehealth appointments.

"Don't text me when you've gotten a positive test; I don't want to hear it," she said to the gathering. "I've told you ahead of time to get the medicines. It can take a week because we're so swamped."

Almost everything Gold said in her 45-minute talk was contrary to the best science and medical standards of care for treating COVID-19. But there was one thing she said that was at least partially true: "I am an emergency physician."

NPR found that Gold's emergency medicine certification lapsed in December of last year, but she still is, as she claims, a licensed physician in the state of California (her license lists her professional address as a UPS shipping store in Beverly Hills).

Simone Gold's board certification in emergency medicine (listed under her maiden name of Tizes) expired in December of last year, but she still has a license to practice medicine.

American Board of Emergency Medicine/Screen Shot by NPR

Despite more than a year spent spreading misinformation about a pandemic that has killed more than 650,000 Americans, she has what might be considered a professional clean bill of health with no complaints, disciplinary actions or malpractice lawsuits on her record. The California Medical Board, which oversees her license, told NPR it expects doctors to "follow the standard of care when treating patients at all times." But the medical board declined to say whether it was investigating Gold, citing reasons of confidentiality.

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Gold is not the only physician promoting misinformation while avoiding professional censure. NPR looked at medical licenses for 16 doctors, including Gold, who have proven track records of doing so online and in media interviews. Fifteen of the 16 had active licenses in good standing. One appeared to have let his license expire, but there was no suggestion in his record that it was because of any disciplinary action.

Now, some organizations affiliated with medical licensing are encouraging action.

Late last month, the American Board of Emergency Medicine, which had until this year certified Gold under her maiden name, Tizes, put out a statement warning it could revoke certification for any of its specialists for spreading "inaccurate information."

The Federation of State Medical Boards issued a statement in late July warning that "Physicians who generate and spread COVID-19 vaccine misinformation or disinformation are risking disciplinary action by state medical boards, including the suspension or revocation of their medical license."

Why professional censure has lagged

So, why hasn't more punitive action already been taken? At its heart, the problem is the fragmented medical licensing system in the United States. Individual states have licensing boards made up of a mix of doctors, lawyers and private citizens. These boards, with an eye toward medical malpractice, usually respond only to complaints against individual physicians.

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"People assume that licensing boards are on the lookout, they're on the internet," says Dr. Humayun Chaudhry, president of the Federation of State Medical Boards. "They actually don't have the resources — neither the money nor the manpower — to monitor what happens on the internet or social media."

In the absence of oversight, doctors such as Gold have been able to spread misinformation with impunity. Imran Ahmed, chief executive of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which tracks vaccine misinformation online, says that even though the number of doctors involved in spreading this sort of bad information is tiny, they're having an outsized influence. Other people in the anti-vaccine movement promote their posts "because they have the 'Dr.' before their name and they appear to understand what they're talking about."

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Ahmed says that having a medical degree may also be helping these doctors skirt social media bans on coronavirus misinformation. "We will find that social media companies will hide behind any excuse that they can to leave up [the profiles of] those people spreading misinformation, and one of the excuses they use is citing their medical credentials," Ahmed says.

A few doctors with bad information have been given big megaphones
In fact, while other promoters of bad information saw their Twitter profiles suspended this summer, Gold's followers swelled to more than 300,000. And it's not just happening via social media: Doctors who discourage vaccination have found regular spots on conservative radio and TV talk shows and on cable networks. Among the most prominent promoters of this brand of false information is former Trump strategist Steve Bannon, who regularly interviews a small, rotating cast of these physicians on his talk show.

The misinformation — which usually involves inflating the risks of vaccines and offering the false promise of alternative therapies — is coming as cases of COVID-19 surge nationwide, mainly in areas with low rates of vaccination. Other doctors working in those places are understandably frustrated.

"We would like there to be some easy answer out there, some medication that's been around forever that we could just take from home," says Sonja Rasmussen, a pediatrician and epidemiologist at the University of Florida in Gainesville. The problem, she says, is that so far the alternative therapies such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine have not been proven effective against COVID-19.

In reality, ICUs are packed with sick, unvaccinated people
"There are outliers out there who are preaching nonsense," says Dr. Kendall McKenzie, the chair of the department of emergency medicine at the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson. While Gold has been giving talks to packed audiences, McKenzie has been dealing with packed ICUs filled with sick, unvaccinated people. He says he sees patients every day being influenced by the kind of misinformation that Gold and others are promoting.

"What it's doing is filling up my emergency department with intubated patients and ultimately leading to deaths," he says.

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Chaudhry says there have been some recent cases where disciplinary action has moved forward. In May, the Oregon Medical Board suspended the license of a doctor for encouraging patients to go unmasked, and Hawaii's medical board is pursuing a complaint against a state health official and a physician, both of whom are reportedly promoting alternative therapies for treating COVID-19 — alternatives that federal agencies have specifically warned are not helpful and can sometimes be harmful.

Chaudhry thinks many licensing boards may already be conducting additional confidential investigations against doctors promoting misinformation. Those investigations, he adds, are typically only triggered by a complaint, but the complaint can come from anyone. "People don't realize it doesn't have to be the patient themselves. It can be a patient's family member; it can be another doctor," he says.

Gold has new problems: She participated in the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol and is now awaiting trial on criminal charges of forcing her way into the building and engaging in disorderly behavior. She has pleaded not guilty and through her lawyer declined NPR's request for an interview.

While she awaits trial, Gold continues to give talks as a fully licensed physician.
Lash
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 10:28 am
NPR was outed as a willing arm of the DNC propaganda machine. Please watch your sources.
neptuneblue
 
  1  
Mon 26 Dec, 2022 10:34 am
@Lash,
Really...

Verified sources and actual journalism is just no substitute for a opinion hit statement of 240 characters on Twitter.

Please....
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blatham
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 10:36 am
@glitterbag,
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Ok, not exactly a Christmas story but it beats the hell out of being called overfed, greedy fascists by someone who has no idea what her own government is actually doing because she rather believes what our enemies have told her about her evil masters.

Taliban types are always most passionate in their hatreds.
Real Music
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 10:38 am
@neptuneblue,
Dr. Simone Gold, leading anti-vax figure, sentenced
for storming Capitol on Jan. 6



Published June 16, 2022


Quote:
Dr. Simone Gold, a leading figure in the anti-vaccine moment, was sentenced to prison Thursday for storming the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

The founder of America's Frontline Doctors, Gold and her coalition of physicians have pushed conspiracy theories about the COVID-19 vaccine and promoted disproven treatments like ivermectin. She pleaded guilty in March to a misdemeanor charge of unlawfully entering and remaining in a restricted area of the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack.

Christopher Cooper, U.S. district judge for the District of Columbia, sentenced Gold on Thursday to a 60-day prison term followed by 12 months of supervised release, and ordered her to pay a $9,500 fine.

In an interview with The Washington Post in January about her involvement in the riot, Gold said that she "regrets being there."

Gold did not respond to ABC News' request for comment.

In March, ABC News reported that despite the warnings from health agencies about unproven COVID-19 treatments, several physician groups like America's Frontline Doctors had partnered with telemedicine platforms and pharmacies to offer easy access to drugs like ivermectin.

A House probe launched in October is investigating America's Frontline Doctors and other organizations for allegedly "spreading misinformation and facilitating access to disproven and potentially hazardous coronavirus treatments, such as hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin."

"Attempts to monetize coronavirus misinformation have eroded public confidence in proven treatments and prevention measures and hindered efforts to control the pandemic," Rep. James E. Clyburn (D-S.C.), chairman of the House Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, wrote in a letter to Gold when the investigation was launched in the fall.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/dr-simone-gold-leading-anti-vax-figure-sentenced/story?id=85445732
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Lash
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 11:07 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
Ok, not exactly a Christmas story but it beats the hell out of being called overfed, greedy fascists by someone who has no idea what her own government is actually doing because she rather believes what our enemies have told her about her evil masters.

Taliban types are always most passionate in their hatreds.

So right!
How many threads here are based on nothing but sheer hatred about Trump and Trumpsters and other non conformists??

This place truly is driven by a uniform hatred of that man and any who vote for him—or who criticize their sacred anti-Trump crowd. Vilification really has begin to completely define ‘Democrats’. No more union support. No more taking care of the poor, the elderly. Just hate. The mocking, rudeness, and accusations against the few members who don’t march in lockstep with Blatham and his crew definitely border on Taliban-style hatred, mirroring the failing, corrupt Democrat party.
neptuneblue
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 11:14 am
@Lash,
Vitriol such as yours will be countered at every step.
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Lash
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 11:27 am
Vitriol such as yours will be countered at every step.
Every instance of authoritarianism will be countered at every step—no matter where it comes from or who defends it.

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vikorr
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 12:24 pm
@neptuneblue,
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Ok, go ahead and you can think Putin's such a nice guy,
you do realise I said even badguys can be correct because no one is 100% wrong.

Quote:
And certainly, don't worry about his current invasion of Ukraine
Didn't properly read what I said at all did you. Find something objectively wrong with what I said. Currently, you're throwing out as much emotion as you can, with no thought for (or objective argument on) the accuracy of the individual statement - and decrying others for being blind/ignorant/gullible (take your pick)

Lash is doing the same thing. She might realise that our media is very biased, but she's not asking the right questions of her sources either, and buying things that don't exist. That doesn't mean none of it exists. Each individual statement treated on its own merits. Same with yours.
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Lash
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 12:44 pm
A whistleblower who worked at Pfizer brought suit.
Pfizer’s defense: the US knew that we were lying.

https://citizenwells.substack.com/p/brook-jackson-whistleblower-lawsuit

Brook Jackson whistleblower lawsuit allegations against Ventavia Pfizer and Icon, Defendants admit fraud by filing that fraud is not material to the contract

___________

So, Jackson is suing the US.

Very reminiscent of Sanders’ suit against the DNC—the DNC was legally allowed to cheat.

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hightor
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 12:50 pm
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How many threads here are based on nothing but sheer hatred about Trump and Trumpsters and other non conformists??

I took a brief stroll with the search function and I saw that there were eighteen pages of Trump-related threads but I didn't notice any of them "based on nothing but sheer hatred about Trump and Trumpsters and other non conformists". It seemed that all the 'anti' threads were either centered around criticism of his policies or were simply ridiculing his behavior. [mockery Not Equal hatred] I think many of us hate what Trumpism has done to political dialogue, how Trumpism is divisive, how Trumpism has made white supremacism acceptable in the GOP, and a host of other complaints. But, unless someone knows Trump and has had personal dealings him, it's hard to see how this alleged "sheer hatred" for the guy differs from some of the criticism directed at Obama or Hillary or the never-ending parade of misinformation and memes which are regularly directed against Biden. Maybe the OP can direct us to specific threads or responses which illustrate a level of political ill will which exceeds the normal antipathy people feel for politicians of an opposing party and their supporters.
hightor
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 01:06 pm
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So, Jackson is suing the US.


It should be an interesting trial:

Brook Jackson False Claims lawsuit against Ventavia COVID-19 vaccine clinical trial

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Very reminiscent of —the DNC was legally allowed to cheat.

No, it's not at all similar:

Quote:
“In evaluating Plaintiffs’ claims at this stage, the Court assumes their allegations are true — — that the DNC and Wasserman Schultz held a palpable bias in favor Clinton and sought to propel her ahead of her Democratic opponents… To the extent Plaintiffs wish to air their general grievances with the DNC or its candidate selection process, their redress is through the ballot box, the DNC’s internal workings, or their right of free speech — not through the judiciary.”
Lash
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 01:13 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
So, Jackson is suing the US.


It should be an interesting trial:

Brook Jackson False Claims lawsuit against Ventavia COVID-19 vaccine clinical trial

Quote:
Very reminiscent of —the DNC was legally allowed to cheat.

No, it's not at all similar:
Quote:
Yes, it is.

rem·i·nis·cent
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adjective
tending to remind one of something.
"the sights were reminiscent of my childhood"


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“In evaluating Plaintiffs’ claims at this stage, the Court assumes their allegations are true — — that the DNC and Wasserman Schultz held a palpable bias in favor Clinton and sought to propel her ahead of her Democratic opponents… To the extent Plaintiffs wish to air their general grievances with the DNC or its candidate selection process, their redress is through the ballot box, the DNC’s internal workings, or their right of free speech — not through the judiciary.”


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I’m sure the ass who wrote that nearly choked chortling. The DNC cheated a primary which was long over when this mocking, dishonest vomit was conceived. In both cases, lying and cheating intentionally is the accepted defense.

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Frank Apisa
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 01:48 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:


Quote:
How many threads here are based on nothing but sheer hatred about Trump and Trumpsters and other non conformists??

I took a brief stroll with the search function and I saw that there were eighteen pages of Trump-related threads but I didn't notice any of them "based on nothing but sheer hatred about Trump and Trumpsters and other non conformists". It seemed that all the 'anti' threads were either centered around criticism of his policies or were simply ridiculing his behavior. [mockery Not Equal hatred] I think many of us hate what Trumpism has done to political dialogue, how Trumpism is divisive, how Trumpism has made white supremacism acceptable in the GOP, and a host of other complaints. But, unless someone knows Trump and has had personal dealings him, it's hard to see how this alleged "sheer hatred" for the guy differs from some of the criticism directed at Obama or Hillary or the never-ending parade of misinformation and memes which are regularly directed against Biden. Maybe the OP can direct us to specific threads or responses which illustrate a level of political ill will which exceeds the normal antipathy people feel for politicians of an opposing party and their supporters.


Really good response, Hightor. You made lots of excellent points here.

You get high marks for even responding to Lash's tirades. You know they are not going to move the needle, but you put in the work. Kudos.
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Real Music
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 03:06 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
I took a brief stroll with the search function and I saw that there were eighteen pages of Trump-related threads but I didn't notice any of them "based on nothing but sheer hatred about Trump and Trumpsters and other non conformists". It seemed that all the 'anti' threads were either centered around criticism of his policies or were simply ridiculing his behavior. [mockery Not Equal hatred] I think many of us hate what Trumpism has done to political dialogue, how Trumpism is divisive, how Trumpism has made white supremacism acceptable in the GOP, and a host of other complaints. But, unless someone knows Trump and has had personal dealings him, it's hard to see how this alleged "sheer hatred" for the guy differs from some of the criticism directed at Obama or Hillary or the never-ending parade of misinformation and memes which are regularly directed against Biden. Maybe the OP can direct us to specific threads or responses which illustrate a level of political ill will which exceeds the normal antipathy people feel for politicians of an opposing party and their supporters.

1. Well said. I thank you for posting this.

2. I am curious if Lash has any response to your post.
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Lash
 
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Mon 26 Dec, 2022 03:34 pm
https://youtu.be/D586chdl3xo
MEP Clare Daly, US propaganda, the proxy war in Ukraine, rising China.
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