Squeakybro
 
  0  
Thu 28 Jan, 2016 03:08 pm
@BillRM,
you said

god according to you is very eager


lolol You just wouldn't have an argument if you didn't lie and exaggerate. I have never said that. Most idiots use a little bit of the truth. But you just run off at the mouth in all directions.
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Squeakybro
 
  1  
Thu 28 Jan, 2016 03:09 pm
@BillRM,
lolol You have about as much understanding as a radish. lol
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maxdancona
 
  2  
Thu 28 Jan, 2016 03:10 pm
You didn't answer my questions SqueakyBro.

1) Would you bow down to Kim Jong Un (the brutal dictator) in order to save the lives of children he threatened to send to a painful death?

2) If you didn't bow down, and Kim Jong Un killed these children as he said he would, would you feel that it was your fault that the children suffered?
Squeakybro
 
  1  
Thu 28 Jan, 2016 03:12 pm
@Glennn,
Like I said gross exaggerations. Your the only reason I have seen is why a child wouldn't here about God. The rest of the world has. But the way you exaggerate and twist things. I would think you would be the only reason they wouldn't hear.
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Squeakybro
 
  1  
Thu 28 Jan, 2016 03:14 pm
@Glennn,
Your an idiot. Nobody goes into the lake of fire until after their dead. So no He does not torture them to death.
Squeakybro
 
  1  
Thu 28 Jan, 2016 03:15 pm
@Glennn,
You finally got one right.
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Squeakybro
 
  1  
Thu 28 Jan, 2016 03:16 pm
@maxdancona,
Is Kim Jong a God?
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Glennn
 
  1  
Thu 28 Jan, 2016 03:20 pm
@Squeakybro,
Quote:
Nobody goes into the lake of fire until after their dead. So no He does not torture them to death.

Okay, so he tortures children who are guilty of nothing eternally after death, which is actually worse.

But where did I say that your god tortures them to death?
Squeakybro
 
  1  
Thu 28 Jan, 2016 03:30 pm
@Glennn,
that was Bill
@BillRM,


Quote:

So the god that created the universe will torture the children to death if we do not worship him?
Squeakybro
 
  0  
Thu 28 Jan, 2016 03:32 pm
@Glennn,
Look I stuck around an extra day but I really got to go on a little trip. Save all your stupid arguments till later. Look this whole thing started because you wanted to know how I could worship God. well I gave you lots of reasons. And I won't change. If you want to hate God that's your choice. I'm not going to change your mind, and your not going to change mine.
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Glennn
 
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Thu 28 Jan, 2016 03:43 pm
@Squeakybro,
Quote:
that was Bill

The important thing here is that you acknowledge that your god will subject children who are guilty of nothing to eternal torture, and that you will love and worship it anyway.
neologist
 
  4  
Thu 28 Jan, 2016 04:23 pm
@Squeakybro,
Squeakybro wrote:
. . . That is all for the new Jerusalem. After judgment day.
So, if death and hell no longer exist after that time, how can punishment be eternal?
mark noble
 
  2  
Fri 29 Jan, 2016 06:00 am
@Glennn,
The point is, Glenn - The biblical God condemns noone.
We, accordingly, (Via free will) condemn oursevelves to eternal anguish.
Yet, via Jesus' teachings - The oppurtunity is given, via repentance, to rectify this.

To recognise ones' own negativities/perversions/immoralities etc allows the oppurtunity for alteration/reversal of such.

Control-mechanisms, such as christianity - induce such, by applying 'eternal damnation vs eternal reward' into the social construct.

If one's karma/frequency is either positive or negative - One exists in said state - An angry person emits anger - A happy person emits happiness..

In Gospel of Thomas (Non-accepted biblically) (Gnostic) Jesus states thus - If you bring out, that which is inside you (meaning goodness/positivity), it will save you.
If you do not, it will destroy you.
Being negative alienates others, unless similarly tuned, and creates negative social, familial, health extensions.
Being positive - the opposite...

We are our own creators - We learn from our physical existences and we return to our (etherealistic) existences better or worse off than previously (Non-linearly, btw).
So just be the best, least harmful and understanding version of YOU that you can - You WILL end up in a frequency-based realm/dimension befitting your integrity.

You can keep returning (physically) endlessly, if you so desire - to relearn, further refine or exist in a beings' body to understand aspects you lack, currently.

Once you acknowledge everything is your design - You may choose to move-up a dimension (There are 11, I hear). We (physicals) are resigned to this one (3rd) until death (physical).

So - 'All's well that ends well'
and 'Much ado about little'

All the best.
Squeakybro
 
  0  
Fri 29 Jan, 2016 02:22 pm
@neologist,
Ok I'm back. If you would find the Holy Spirit He could reveal to you that you are in the body but your not in there alone. Who you really are is the inner man. The inner man lives forever. Somewhere.
Squeakybro
 
  0  
Fri 29 Jan, 2016 02:25 pm
@Glennn,
lolol You know I get tired of saying this. But your wrong again. Everyone is born guilty of sin. That is why the bible says we must be born again.


John 3:5-6
5 Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
6 "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
(NKJ)

BillRM
 
  1  
Fri 29 Jan, 2016 03:41 pm
@Squeakybro,
Quote:
Everyone is born guilty of sin. That is why the bible says we must be born again.


That is why the killings of babies in their mother arms by god or the agents of god is no problem as somehow they was born guilty of sin before their eyes can even track.
Squeakybro
 
  0  
Fri 29 Jan, 2016 05:22 pm
@BillRM,
The only agent of God is satan. As the wrath of God. God only blesses.

James 1:16-17
16 Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.
(NKJ)



Glennn
 
  1  
Fri 29 Jan, 2016 05:34 pm
@mark noble,
Quote:
We learn from our physical existences and we return to our (etherealistic) existences better or worse off than previously

The truth about karma is that, if you believe in it, then you will always be judging yourself and finding that you have come up short, and so you will draw to yourself a new reality for the purpose of rectifying that which is already done and gone. In other words, karma has become your new religion whereby you exercise a belief in the power of the past. You will be serving the past while believing that you are insuring a better future. How can you be in the here and now when you are consumed by your past and hoping to rectify what has already happened. You are giving the past more power that the present.

Another problem with your ideas about karma is that when you create another existence for yourself in order to right a past wrong, you will simply create yet more experiences in the new existence which will, in turn, need to be rectified, and you will be caught up in an unending cycle of wrongs being righted. Give up your belief in the past, and you will be free from this karma.

Ask yourself what your "etherealistic" self lacked that it needed to come to a more base and dense reality to gain or retrieve. Your etherealistic self must have been convinced that it lacked something and needed to acquire it. But if it really knew what it lacked, it would not have been necessary to hunt it down. And if it didn't know what it lacked, then how would it know what it was in need of? But first and foremost, the mistake is believing that there is something outside of you that you need to get. That is the illusion!
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BillRM
 
  2  
Fri 29 Jan, 2016 05:34 pm
@Squeakybro,
So satan and god is in effect one and the same thing and that claim does not surprise me at all.

So once more why would you worship such an evil being as god/satan?
Glennn
 
  3  
Fri 29 Jan, 2016 05:41 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
So once more why would you worship such an evil being as god/satan?

I believe that he holds to the philosophy of: If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
 

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