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I'll Never Vote for Hillary Clinton

 
 
revelette2
 
  8  
Thu 5 May, 2016 11:25 am
Lash, I will say I do go over board in saying you support child pornography. I think you were just trying to excuse his remarks he made years ago on child nudity. I apologize. I don't understand why he vote against both the Amber alert and the Brady bill, but it is too much to say you support child pornography.
roger
 
  2  
Thu 5 May, 2016 11:30 am
@revelette2,
The solution to student loans is the same as any other loan. Pay it back and quit trying to make the rest of us take responsibility for your own debts.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 5 May, 2016 11:36 am
@roger,
So true; when they reach 18 year old, they are legally responsible for their own debt. They can declare bankruptcy, but that'll stay on their record for a very long time, and their credit rating will be very bad.
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Lash
 
  -2  
Thu 5 May, 2016 03:15 pm
Hillary is burning in effigy on Twitter.

#DropOutHillary has been trending over 24 hours and that is no small feat. Interesting demographic running it...

http://usuncut.com/politics/hillary-clinton-twitter-dropouthillary/
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Lash
 
  1  
Thu 5 May, 2016 03:18 pm
@revelette2,
Thank you. I DO excuse his remarks because i know they weren't anything nefarious.
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Lash
 
  -1  
Thu 5 May, 2016 04:22 pm
Hillary desperate for Bernie's voters, playing it safe with rhetoric.

She'll not get them.

excerpt--
Clinton on Wednesday told CNN's Anderson Cooper said she isn't pushing Sanders to hurry up.

"I'm not calling myself that (the presumptive nominee)," Clinton said. "I know there are some contests ahead and I respect Sen. Sanders and whatever choices he's making. And I have a lot of empathy about this, Anderson. You know, I ran to the very end in 2008."
Sanders can't win with pledged delegates, but aides hope he can push Clinton out.
Obama's White House agrees there's no rush.
"The key here is unifying the party," said one Democrat familiar with the White House's thinking. "So with that in mind, we are being careful to let the process play through and provide the space for there to be a unifying moment for Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.
____________________________________________
That space does not exist.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/05/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-exit-race/index.html
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Blickers
 
  2  
Thu 5 May, 2016 07:27 pm


Things are looking bad for Sanders. His popularity is fading in the Democratic Party.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah279/LeviStubbs/Democratic%20Party%20Nom%20chart_zpspqgyxrf8.jpg
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah279/LeviStubbs/Dem%20Nom%20chart%204%20polls_zpsdr3v4etc.jpg
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary

The latest polls all show Hillary pulling out ahead of Bernie. Mrs. Clinton is really getting her act together and getting ready to confront Trump, who trails her.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 5 May, 2016 08:35 pm
@Blickers,
Is it fading, or is it a hiccup?

http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/bernie-sanders-vs-donald-trump-polls-better-than-hillary-clinton-independent-vote-democratic-nomination-how/
Blickers
 
  2  
Thu 5 May, 2016 09:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
It's fading. While Sanders polls slightly higher against Trump than Hillary, Hillary beats Trump easily. And Sanders has barely been criticized by the Republicans, who are holding their fire against the self-proclaimed socialist who was a delegate at the Trotskyite Social Workers Party as a youth. The Republicans are just salivating to get a crack at Sanders in the election, then the scandals will rain down. Hillary? They are pulling out the stop trying to prevent her nomination, they are scared of her. With everything the Republicans have been throwing at her, Hillary beats Trump by just a few points less than Sanders, who has not faced any GOP criticism at all.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 5 May, 2016 10:08 pm
@Blickers,
I'm not so sure about that. I'm going to wait until other states come out with their votes. California is a biggie.
Blickers
 
  2  
Thu 5 May, 2016 10:47 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Fine by me. If Bernie feels that his message needs to be said, and he has the money coming in from donations to travel to these states, let him go ahead. I just think that realistically, Hillary is headed for the nomination. But Bernie is entitled to do what he wants.
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revelette2
 
  3  
Fri 6 May, 2016 06:15 am
@cicerone imposter,
California is big but it is proportional. The following was written before the northeast democrat super Tuesday primaries in which Hillary cleaned Sander's clock, effectively closing any realistic win for Bernie's chances to win the democrat primary. Probably why he is desperately trying to get the super delegates to overturn the will of the people after going on about how delegates should go by the will of the people when they can't do that, they can't change their minds, super delegates can.

Delegate math doesn't add up for Bernie Sanders in California

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parados
 
  4  
Fri 6 May, 2016 06:18 am
@cicerone imposter,
By the time California is counted, Hillary will have the nomination sewn up. NJ will be counting the same day and is on the east coast. Hillary will need about 30-40 delegates on June 7th. She will get about 75 from NJ. She will then get over 200 from California putting her well ahead and with plenty of delegates.
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revelette2
 
  2  
Fri 6 May, 2016 06:21 am
@cicerone imposter,
Like people have said, Sanders has not been subject to negative scrutiny, if he were to be, his poll numbers would suddenly drop. Basically all Trump has to say about Hillary is Bill's affairs. He has no room to talk and Hillary will blast away at that through other people.
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Fil Albuquerque
 
  1  
Fri 6 May, 2016 09:03 am
@joefromchicago,
Well given the alternative I would vote for the Pope so why should one vote Hillary in spite of all that is wrong with her ? Frack, I would vote for a beggar faster then I would vote for Trump...
Fil Albuquerque
 
  5  
Fri 6 May, 2016 09:36 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Fil Albuquerque wrote:

Well given the alternative I would vote for the Pope so why shouldn't one vote Hillary in spite of all that is wrong with her ? Frack, I would vote for a beggar faster then I would vote for Trump...


Corrected.
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engineer
 
  2  
Fri 6 May, 2016 01:32 pm
Interesting Article

Quote:

Decades ago, Gloria Steinem had talked about the “click,” moments, those aha, revelatory, eureka moments when a woman suddenly recognizes the gender discrimination she faces. I am sorry to say, I never had one of those consciousness-raising moments. That is to say, I had plenty of them. But on the behalf of others. Never for myself.

Until now.

I have the Bernie Bros to thank for this.

Killary. Shrillary. She who yells too much. And a million other slurs that I see daily on Facebook but which are unprintable in this family publication.

When the Republicans did it, it was easier to take. But these young, white men! They called themselves Progressives! Which meant we were on the same team. But who refused to see their own bias, their own privilege, even when countless women pointed it out to them. Who, instead, turned on us and said we were “only” voting for her because she was a woman. As if Hillary Clinton had no past, no history, no accomplishments before they woke up to the 2016 caricatures of her.

Let me make one thing clear. I am not at all suggesting that some of their critiques against Clinton were not accurate or that they are wrong to be idealistic and youthful. After all, I was... as recently as 2008 when I joyously voted for Barack Obama.

But because they felt the need to attack me every single time I posted anything remotely favorable to my candidate of choice, because I have spoken to countless women who have stopped posting on Facebook and Twitter because they are afraid the Bros will pounce, because some of them have turned out to be as misogynist and careless in their attacks and speech as The Donald himself, they have been part of my growing education.

But still, I told myself that surely the people that I encountered online were not a representative sample. Sanders himself seemed like such a decent man.

Until...

Until... the infamous “unqualified” speech. That swooshing sound you heard was a million female heads spinning. Because if Hillary Clinton was “unqualified” to be president, what woman ever would be? Not in our lifetime, for sure. Click.
Lash
 
  1  
Fri 6 May, 2016 01:47 pm
@engineer,
Ronnie Raygun. Barack O'Bummer. George "Shrub" Bush.

Sorry to the woman attempting to act like Hillary is getting unfair scrutiny or special name hate. She's being treated like every other politician running for president.

Hillary is playing the "woman card" as hard as she can - she's actually printed up cards....

She got Gloria Steinem and Madeline Albright to actually try to take young women to school, saying that there's a special place in hell for women who don't help other women.

Steinem lost her credibility with women when she accused young women of supporting Bernie for no other reason that to "meet boys." If Hillary is smart at all, she'll ask Steinem to keep quiet this election cycle. It hurts HRC to remind young women about what Steinem said about them. That ridiculously inappropriate mess by Steinem and Albright blew up in Hillary's face quite famously.

The young women of this generation - so thankfully - look at Hillary's lies, dirty money, and flip-flopping - and they reject her.

I'd love a decent woman to run for highest office.

We just didn't have one on this cycle.
snood
 
  1  
Fri 6 May, 2016 02:54 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
I'd love a decent woman to run for highest office.


I wish there was a decent woman mounting a principled opposition to Hillary here. Guess we can't always get what we want.
Lash
 
  1  
Fri 6 May, 2016 02:56 pm
@snood,
Why don't you make an attempt not to mount purely ad hominem attacks on people who have different political opinions than you do?
 

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