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I'll Never Vote for Hillary Clinton

 
 
RABEL222
 
  3  
Wed 17 Feb, 2016 10:56 pm
@snood,
Snood, the troops are pulling the old republican trick of attacking what they claim you said rather than what you really did say. Its the Lush Limbaugh gambit.
Debra Law
 
  1  
Wed 17 Feb, 2016 10:58 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

I have been lecturing every one about the importance of electing a democratic president because I want a democratic Supreme Court. All this fighting among the dems is hurting the ticket. What, the SC isent political. The hell you say. Remember Ralph Nader who elected a republican president using his high ideals. So do I and I think a Bernie candidate will do the same thing. If he is on the ticket we dems will be hearing socialist=communist until it is coming out our ears. But go ahead, vote your ideals even though you KNOW Bernie cant get even one of his ideas through the house.


Between Bernie and Hillary, which one do you think will embroil us in armed conflicts throughout the world? How much more can our military personnel, our country, and our pocketbook bear? Veterans are committing suicide at alarming rates. We are trillions of dollars in debt. The world is not safer, but less safe due to the destabilizing effects of war in the middle east. I think Bernie will handle congressional obstruction just fine; I don't think Hillary will end the war-mongering. Our nation can't bear it. Do you remember what happened to the Soviet Union after a decade of war in Afghanistan? It collapsed . . . .
snood
 
  2  
Wed 17 Feb, 2016 11:17 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

Snood, the troops are pulling the old republican trick of attacking what they claim you said rather than what you really did say. Its the Lush Limbaugh gambit.

Yeah, but this fighting among ourselves does make me sad. How we see the priorities of this election so differently is really phenomenal.
snood
 
  1  
Wed 17 Feb, 2016 11:22 pm
@Debra Law,
Quote:
I don't think Hillary will end the war-mongering.

That's definitely a legitimate worry with her. And I do understand the concern that she's a lover of war.

A simple, direct question - do you not have any worries or concerns about what Trump or (worse, IMO) Cruz might do as president?
RABEL222
 
  4  
Wed 17 Feb, 2016 11:25 pm
@Debra Law,
Bernie will probably come closer than Hillary. She has as Sec. of State been on the world stage and talked to world leaders and knows more about the world situation while Bernie has passed laws sending all our kids to collage, and gaining us universal medical coverage and all the other pie in the sky laws. O wait, those are the things he is going to do in the future when he is president. As of now he has just done little things that minor legislators do.
snood
 
  3  
Wed 17 Feb, 2016 11:29 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

Bernie will probably come closer than Hillary. She has as Sec. of State been on the world stage and talked to world leaders and knows more about the world situation while Bernie has passed laws sending all our kids to collage, and gaining us universal medical coverage and all the other pie in the sky laws. O wait, those are the things he is going to do in the future when he is president. As of now he has just done little things that minor legislators do.


And he DOES NOT HAVE A CLUE about the troublesome aspects of our foreign policy. But some will take it on faith that he will "end war-mongering", along with the other little things like kicking off universal healthcare and free college. Just makes me shake my head and wonder. That's some impressive faith.
RABEL222
 
  4  
Wed 17 Feb, 2016 11:30 pm
@snood,
A not very rational hatred, of the Clintons that the republicans have generated over the last 34 years that a depressingly large numbers of liberals have bought into through the incessant brainwashing campaign. But if Bernie is the nominee just you wait for the communist=socialist campaign they unleash.
snood
 
  4  
Wed 17 Feb, 2016 11:33 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

A not very rational hatred, of the Clintons that the republicans have generated over the last 34 years that a depressingly large numbers of liberals have bought into through the incessant brainwashing campaign. But if Bernie is the nominee just you wait for the communist=socialist campaign they unleash.


Do you think it's a coincidence that the republicans have nothing but nice thngs to say about Bernie now? Do you think they're NOT doing opposition research on him NONSTOP, in anticipation of the shitstorm of propaganda they will unleash on him? And the Hillary hating Dems just go right along......
ehBeth
 
  3  
Wed 17 Feb, 2016 11:38 pm
@snood,
Republicans loving on Mr. Sanders. Socialists saying he's not one of theirs (the CBC link I posted elsewhere). It's a weird wonderful political time warp in the US.
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Debra Law
 
  0  
Wed 17 Feb, 2016 11:40 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

Quote:
I don't think Hillary will end the war-mongering.

That's definitely a legitimate worry with her. And I do understand the concern that she's a lover of war.

A simple, direct question - do you not have any worries or concerns about what Trump or (worse, IMO) Cruz might do as president?



Hillary and Cruz are the two worst possible choices ...
snood
 
  3  
Wed 17 Feb, 2016 11:45 pm
@Debra Law,
You'd be a great politician.
From my observations of them, a prerequisite seems to be the ability to answer a question that wasn't asked, and not answer the question asked.
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Blickers
 
  2  
Thu 18 Feb, 2016 12:09 am
@Debra Law,
Hillary will keep Social Security and Medicare in roughly their present forms. NO Republican will do that. Therefore Hillary is far superior to any Republican.
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Blickers
 
  3  
Thu 18 Feb, 2016 12:16 am
@Debra Law,
Quote Debra Law:
Quote:
Between Bernie and Hillary, which one do you think will embroil us in armed conflicts throughout the world?

Bernie might be a tad more pacificist than Hillary, but I don't see any indication that Hillary is itching to get us militarily involved around the world.

She might have voted to give the President power to go into Iraq, on false evidence, but it still doesn't make it her idea. I think her military policy will more closely resemble her husband's, where he brought in NATO to end the ceaseless wars in the Balkans, got it all straightened out with the Dayton Accords, and no Americans killed. That's how Clintons handle foreign affairs.
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Debra Law
 
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Thu 18 Feb, 2016 12:34 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

RABEL222 wrote:

Bernie will probably come closer than Hillary. She has as Sec. of State been on the world stage and talked to world leaders and knows more about the world situation while Bernie has passed laws sending all our kids to collage, and gaining us universal medical coverage and all the other pie in the sky laws. O wait, those are the things he is going to do in the future when he is president. As of now he has just done little things that minor legislators do.


And he DOES NOT HAVE A CLUE about the troublesome aspects of our foreign policy. But some will take it on faith that he will "end war-mongering", along with the other little things like kicking off universal healthcare and free college. Just makes me shake my head and wonder. That's some impressive faith.


Given that Hillary's record as Secretary of State is one of dismal failures, why would you want her as our military Commander?
snood
 
  3  
Thu 18 Feb, 2016 12:45 am
@Debra Law,
Ok DL. White flag. Vote, don't vote, peepee up a tree, we have no meeting of minds. Peace out.
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maporsche
 
  1  
Thu 18 Feb, 2016 01:19 am
Bernie versus any Republican loses 35 states. I said it first. He's a #hashtag not a winning candidate

I'm not falling for another hope and change candidate. Been there, done that.
Lash
 
  0  
Thu 18 Feb, 2016 05:04 am
@Debra Law,
Look at this. I don't like the Brrnie can't win narrative, but everything else resonates, particularly the take on the Clintons.

http://m.truthdig.com/report/item/bernie_sanders_phantom_movement_20160214

edgarblythe
 
  0  
Thu 18 Feb, 2016 05:28 am
AW.. The Republicans might criticize Bernie and even oppose him. Like they are going to love anybody 0utside of their own circle, so long as it's not socialist Sanders. The Democrats who support Hillary have a mantra: Don't try. Change is too hard.
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ossobuco
 
  1  
Thu 18 Feb, 2016 06:16 am
@RABEL222,
You don't seem to read what I say, sometimes at all, so much so that I think you don't know how to see the post you are responding to. Tired of it.
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DrewDad
 
  4  
Thu 18 Feb, 2016 08:05 am
@Robert Gentel,
Robert Gentel wrote:

The man is in Texas. His vote is going to the Republican candidate no matter what he does.

I don't get why progressives keep hounding Edgar about this. It is really silly. Edgar is simply no threat to any progressive cause by not being willing to vote for Hillary. His state is winner-take-all, and always goes Republican and his vote never mattered in the first place.

I'm in Texas, too. The complacency of the Republican party here kinda pisses me off.

The idea that "my vote won't count anyway" is exactly what the Republican party wants people to think.

The demographics of Texas is changing rapidly, and I encourage every Democrat to vote, and speed us toward purple.


Which is all kinda beside the point. I'm genuinely curious about what he's going to do come election day if Clinton is the Democratic candidate. Stay home and pout? Vote Republican? Hold his nose and vote Democrat?
 

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