I'll Never Vote for Hillary Clinton

@Lash,

Do you have any proof she pocketed any of the monies raised for her campaign?
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cycle=Career&cid=N00000019

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@cicerone imposter,

The Clinton Family wealth and the Clinton Foundation

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@Finn dAbuzz,

What about the Clinton Family Wealth and Foundation? What are you trying to suggest?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2015/10/13/how-the-clintons-made-more-than-230-million-after-leaving-the-white-house/#5a258fa32ae3

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@cicerone imposter,

Thanks for this, C.I.

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@cicerone imposter,

https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2016-04-22/firms-that-paid-for-clinton-speeches-have-us-govt-interests

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-04-22/heres-who-paid-hillary-clinton-22-million-in-speaking-fees%3Fcontext%3Damp

Everybody has links. The Clintons are dirty as hell and have done more to **** up this country than any other two-headed monster I can think of.

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@Lash,

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Clinton's 94 paid appearances over two years on the speech circuit leave her open to scrutiny over decisions she would make in the White House or influence that may affect the interests of her speech sponsors

"Leave her open to scrutiny."

She didn't break any laws. Since she was not elected, what are they going to scrutinize?

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@Lash,

Can you even imagine how low her poll number s would have been had she actually won? single digits probably.

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@McGentrix,

It takes a hell of a lot of nerve to bitch about the Clintons making money by anyone as I watch Trump and his whole family use the presidency to enrich themselves with foreign governments helping them along.

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@RABEL222,

I won't say you're wrong, but how is that supposed to excuse someone else - and that's what you are trying to do.

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@cicerone imposter,

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She didn't break any laws. Since she was not elected, what are they going to scrutinize?

So, taking pre-emptive bribes, as a potential world leader, is A-OK by you, CI?

Has the charitable fund they set up, closed the doors yet?

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@Builder,

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So, taking pre-emptive bribes, as a potential world leader, is A-OK by you, CI?

That's been charged but it hasn't been proven. That's a tricky situation for any politician because the wealthy donors always expect that they're buying a degree of access. But you have to prove that there was actually a deal made and that hasn't been done in this case. Raising money internationally is not illegal of itself as long as sources are not hidden.

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Has the charitable fund they set up, closed the doors yet?

Since neither of them are in office it would make more sense for them to keep the foundation in operation.

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@hightor,

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That's been charged but it hasn't been proven.

You're serious?

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The senators suggested that money pouring into the foundation while Clinton was secretary of state would look like US policy was up for sale. Too bad, she shrugged. She said she had worked out an agreement with President-elect Obama’s transition team, and she refused to change it.

The agreement imposed no restrictions on who could give — including foreign governments — or how much.

In response to every request from senators to limit fundraising or disclose the size and timing of gifts to the foundation, she said no. She stonewalled them.

Clinton said that if the State Department or the White House ever had concerns about a proposed gift, the foundation would be willing to hear them out. But under the agreement, the Clinton Foundation, not the White House or State Department ethics officers, would have the final say. Amazing.

Source

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Since neither of them are in office it would make more sense for them to keep the foundation in operation.

Can you find a link that says the CF is still functioning? I can't.

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@Builder,

Well if it were proven and illegal and as bad as you make it out to be I'm surprised she hasn't been indicted. You've chosen a source known to be highly critical of Clinton but evidently the story is more spin than anything else.

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Can you find a link that says the CF is still functioning? I can't.

It's supposed to be "closing down" but I don't know what they do with funds already collected for specific projects. I may have been misinformed but I thought some of it was still functional.

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@hightor,

So every high power criminal that has ever operated in the US has been indicted?

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@McGentrix,

It doesn't matter what you think Clinton's approval rating is. We know that Trump's approval rating is one of the lowest in history, and that's a fact.

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@hightor,

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You've chosen a source known to be highly critical of Clinton but evidently the story is more spin than anything else.

How many sources would you like to see? Do a search yourself for "pay to play clinton". It's not like she bothered to deny it was happening.

But she did shoot herself in the foot with women voters, taking money from the Saudi princes. No denying that one.

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It's supposed to be "closing down" but I don't know what they do with funds already collected for specific projects.

There's plenty of evidence of misappropriation of funds earmarked for specific projects, or just outright nepotism on who was given those funds, and how they were then wasted. Haiti being the example that was given a fair amount of airtime.

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@cicerone imposter,

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It doesn't matter what you think Clinton's approval rating is.

Exactly. She isn't in office.

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@Builder,

And never will be. 🙂

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@Lash,

How sweet that is.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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So every high power criminal that has ever operated in the US has been indicted?

You think Sessions will step up to the plate?

Look, I'm not a fan, and it wasn't my intention to argue the case for the Clintons. But I do find the right's (and now the left's) obsession with HRC's alleged criminality somewhat entertaining and occasionally noteworthy. Taking a year-old story and tarring it to HRC when it's not even directly about her just seemed like the perfect illustration of a zombie story, a lumbering staggering collection of decades-old rumor and innuendo which keeps floating to the scummy surface of the conservative imagination and leaving rich deposits of Hillary sludge, fertilizing resentment and fueling rage.

I suppose a high power criminal gets by once in a while but the attention and scrutiny paid to public officials, especially ones as polarizing as Clinton, would make it less likely that they could keep illegal activity out of the limelight. Political foundations have dozens of lawyers to make sure that all the bribes, payoffs, and kickbacks are above board.

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