@Krumple,
Quote Krumple:
Quote:If this is your mindset [not believing the claimed Emails because the it's pretty sure that Russia first got their hands on them], then how can you trust anything from any source? Unless you grant levity to a side you support?
It's like you would be admitting that both sides are corrupt. The establishment and the whistle blower are not trust worthy because both have an agenda.
First, Russia or it's self admitted agent, (Guccifer?) hacked the Emails. When somebody says they obtained something illegally, and there is no way to verify the hacked material is genuine, you are at the mercy of someone who admittedly has performed an illegal act.
Second, Russia clearly makes out better with Trump as President. Russia took over Eastern Europe after WWII and forced Eastern Europe into poverty while their Western European neighbors built a prosperous new era. Several uprisings were militarily put down. Then Russia went broke in 1991 and couldn't afford to keep Eastern Europe hostage anymore. Once free, the Eastern Europeans looked West and applied for the EU for economic development and NATO to make sure they don't get taken over by Russia again. Since that time, most of the breakaway Eastern European countries have economically outperformed Russia. Russia would not only like to take those countries back, or at least exert military pressure to draw them into Russia's economic influence, but dares not do it because these are NATO countries.
Hillary can be relied on to support NATO as it is, which has kept Russia's expansionist plans at bay since WWII. Trump has said that unless the other NATO countries pay up, he's cutting them loose from American defense and and also said he wants to "shake the rust off" American policy toward Russia by becoming closer to them and basing our policy toward them not by stopping expansionism, but by "mutual shared interests". Which apparently can mean that Russia is fee to roll the tanks into Warsaw as long as they give us a sweet deal economically to make it worth our while.
Given the fact that Putin faces a tough foe in Hillary on one hand, or a thoroughly corruptible dupe/pawn who will make Russia's expansionist dreams come true on the other, it is therefore not rational to trust any purloined Emails that have gone through Russian hands that have to do with Hillary, whom Russia hates. It is only rational to assume that Russia will make any changes or fabricate anything on those Emails to try to prevent Hillary from becoming president. Add to the fact that hacking isn't legit in the first place, and that Russia has an internet troll operation in St. Petersburg, Russia which concentrates on social media and down-talks the West and the US especially, and the idea of trusting those Emails being released seems all the more out of the question.
