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I'll Never Vote for Hillary Clinton

 
 
izzythepush
 
  3  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 09:07 am
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Assange has to be considered a Russian agent, at this point.


Assange is in splendid isolation inside the Ecuadorean embassy. He's not involved in the day to day running of Wikileaks whose only philosophy appears to be publish and be damned.
Lash
 
  -3  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 09:07 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I think if someone got into my email, and I was mortified and dishonest, I'd lie about it too- especially if I had Clinton's experience lying and the backing of the MSM.

All she has to do is threaten a lawsuit.

Not surprised. Bucket of losers, basket of deplorables... lol. Yeah. No similarity there.
Lash
 
  -3  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 09:14 am
Content of some Wall Street speeches.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/07/wikileaks-hillary-clinton-paid-wall-street-speeches

revelette2
 
  3  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 11:52 am
The point about the hacked emails is that it has been confirmed Russia has been meddling in our elections to the benefit of Trump. Russian hackers have been known to doctor anything they get their hands on. It would not be possible to know what is a real quote from an email and what has been doctored with so the whole should be taken with a grain of salt.

The following is what a Clinton campaign spokesperson said and it is an accurate assessment which can be checked out by anybody with access to google or another search engine.

Quote:
“Earlier today, the U.S. government removed any reasonable doubt that the Kremlin has weaponized WikiLeaks to meddle in our election and benefit Donald Trump’s candidacy,” Clinton spokesman Glen Caplin said in a statement Friday night. “We are not going to confirm the authenticity of stolen documents released by Julian Assange who has made no secret of his desire to damage Hillary Clinton.”

Caplin also pointed to concerns that Russian hackers could have doctored the content in the emails, saying, “Guccifer 2.0 has already proven the warnings of top national security officials that documents can be faked as part of a sophisticated Russian misinformation campaign.”



source

Speaking for the other side who have been salivating at the mouth for the October surprise, they have got to be disappointed with this leak thus far, doctored or no. I am wondering if this is the best they got?
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bobsal u1553115
 
  5  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 11:54 am
@Blickers,
Sure puts Assange's Wikileaks October Surprise press conference from the balcony of the Ecuadoran Embassy fizzle into focus, doesn't it?
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bobsal u1553115
 
  5  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 12:04 pm
@Lash,
Jeezuz, where does that come from?????

My being for or against any sort of socialism has nothing to do with the fact 90%+ of American voters are against Socialism and will not be even considering a vote for Jill Stein under any circumstance. Even tRump vs Stein.

That was just a nasty crack. Here's one for you: Are you coming out of the closet for tRump???????????
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Krumple
 
  -3  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 12:42 pm
@Lash,


I find it funny that all you did was post a link and you got voted down four times. Just goes to show the clinton supporters love their blinders and hate information.
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 12:47 pm
@Krumple,
You got that right.
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Blickers
 
  3  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 01:31 pm
I did not vote Lash's post down. However, Lash characterized the link as giving the contents of Hillary's speeches, when in fact they only give what hackers into the DNC Email server CLAIM are the contents of Hillary's speeches, but which might very well have been altered by the hacker or whoever the hacker turned the Emails over to. The evidence appears to be that Russia was involved in this, so we can be sure that the Emails will contain changes to further Russia's foreign policy goal of installing Trump as President of the United States.

Since Lash mischaracterized her link, it is not surprising that someone voted her post down. That someone, or one of those someones, was not me.
Blickers
 
  2  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 01:36 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote izzy:
Quote:
Assange is in splendid isolation inside the Ecuadorean embassy. He's not involved in the day to day running of Wikileaks whose only philosophy appears to be publish and be damned.

Well, the material is released by Wikileaks when Assange says it will be released, so it looks like he makes the decisions about what gets published. And Assange has made no bones about it-he's out to make sure that Hillary does not become president. He's said so.
snood
 
  3  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 01:36 pm
@Blickers,
That she only posted that link says to me that she searched the contents herself and didn't find anything acceptably damning of Hillary, so she went for the appearance of some revelation. Rest assured that when she finds something actually said in a Wall Street speech she can use as feces to fling, she'll be on it like a bandit.
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DrewDad
 
  2  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 02:15 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Somehow, "genius whistleblower" Assange managed to be given some fake Emails written by Trump's speechwriter and he couldn't figure it out.

To be fair, Wikileaks is a platform, like Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc.

It's up to the journalists to do their own fact checking, which Kelly absolutely failed to do. Of course, I don't expect to see real journalists on Fox.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 02:17 pm
@Blickers,
One of those thumb downs was mine. I don't think that link proved anything.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 02:22 pm
@Lash,
Who would be interested in hacking into your email? Nobody.
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Krumple
 
  -1  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 02:38 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:

I did not vote Lash's post down. However, Lash characterized the link as giving the contents of Hillary's speeches, when in fact they only give what hackers into the DNC Email server CLAIM are the contents of Hillary's speeches, but which might very well have been altered by the hacker or whoever the hacker turned the Emails over to. The evidence appears to be that Russia was involved in this, so we can be sure that the Emails will contain changes to further Russia's foreign policy goal of installing Trump as President of the United States.

Since Lash mischaracterized her link, it is not surprising that someone voted her post down. That someone, or one of those someones, was not me.


If this is your mindset then how can you trust anything from any source? Unless you grant levity to a side you support?

It's like you would be admitting that both sides are corrupt. The establishment and the whistle blower are not trust worthy because both have an agenda.

I think Hillary banks on people feeling this way about wikileaks, so it automatically discredits any claims surfacing. It's the Russians, those pesky reds are always wanting their hands in our cookie jars.

For me your attitude is fine, admirable that you don't just bite into every hook. But you do have to admit when shady stuff constantly surfaces there must be some underline truth in the muck even if someone else is shoveling fake poo on top of the pile.

Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 07:04 pm
@Krumple,
Both candidates suck, but what sucks more is the people who are gung ho for either of them.
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 07:36 pm
In my view, either candidate is equally corrupt. With Trump we face chaos. With Clinton we sink deeper into the oligarchy. With her presiding over the TPP, a continuation of the Bush/Obama wars for four to eight more years, a few token scraps thrown at the base. Whatever the rich donors want the rich donors get.
Blickers
 
  2  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 07:41 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Sorry if we participate meaningfully in the democratic process this year, Finn. You and your fellow minor party fans can sit home and watch movies on Election Night while the rest of the country decides who is actually going to run this place for the next four years.
Lash
 
  -3  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 07:41 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
True. Disgusting war hawk toads.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Sat 8 Oct, 2016 07:45 pm
@edgarblythe,
And yet you get +2 and I got -11

Very Happy
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