@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Yes, but a little reading looks like my facts are misremembered. Reading now.
Randy Weaver was a separatist who was stung in an illegal firearms sale to the ATF. They killed his dog and his wife, in that order...
So not being mugged for his property.
They also killed his 14 year old son, eh? Shot him in the back as he was running. Another kid with him was acquitted at trial on grounds of self-defense (i.e., the feds shot first). This was after the feds threw rocks at the house to provoke the dogs and precipitate some emergence from the cabin.
Wiki has a long article on this, which I never read before, but the back-story is a complete mess. Cops said Weaver was a bank robber (untrue), had fired at a helicopter, (untrue), and in various other ways tried to make him out to be a serious threat, when he wasn't. He had simply been charged with selling shotguns to an undercover ATF agent. He was paranoid of the government, had been told that if he was convicted the government would take his land, leaving his wife homeless, and that a government agency would take custody of his children.
They issued "shoot on sight" orders and killed his wife while she held a baby in her arms, shot Weaver twice when he came out to see his dead son, and all kinda crazy-ass ****
Excerpt:
Quote:The Department of Justice Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) Ruby Ridge Task Force Report (June 10, 1994) stated in section I. Executive Summary subhead B. Significant Findings that the second shot did not satisfy constitutional standards for legal use of deadly force.[56] The OPR review also found the lack of a request to surrender was "inexcusable", since Harris and the two Weavers were running for cover without returning fire and were not an imminent threat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge