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Who do you think will be the next president of the United States?

 
 
Reply Sun 13 Dec, 2015 11:10 pm
I'm interested in hearing what the A2K political buffs have to say about the upcoming election, anyone want to share their prediction on the outcome?
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Joedoe6
 
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Reply Sun 13 Dec, 2015 11:16 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Barry will be our last president and will have the honor of starting WW3 like the well-behaved puppet he is
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 13 Dec, 2015 11:43 pm
@Robert Gentel,
I'm not a political buff, but I have been trying to pay attention. One thing that I saw recently: http://firebrandleft.com/university-100-accuracy-record-predicts-bernie-sanders-will-americas-next-president/

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UNIVERSITY WITH 100% ACCURACY RECORD PREDICTS BERNIE SANDERS WILL BE AMERICA’S NEXT PRESIDENT

When Western Illinois University puts together their annual mock presidential election, some pundits tend to perk up and pay attention. After all, they accurately predicted Barack Obama’s presidential win in 2007, and his narrower reelection win in 2011, after the same system had been used to astonishingly predict every presidential election since 1975 with 100% accuracy.

The results of WIU’s 2015 mock election are in, and if you tend to take the mainstream media seriously, the results of that election will more than likely surprise you: Bernie Sanders won the presidency, then the general election… and he did both in a massive landslide.
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Related link: http://www.wiu.edu/news/newsrelease.php?release_id=13059
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 12:08 am

I've been on record since 2013 with a prediction that the 2013 gun control debacle is going to result in a Republican victory in 2016.

I have no idea who the Republicans will nominate however.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 02:24 am
@Joedoe6,
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Barry will be our last president and will have the honor of starting WW3 like the well-behaved puppet he is...


HDK is the closest thing the dems have to a viable candidate. The fact that Bork Obunga is tying to sabotage her campaign is being taken by some people that he means to keep power after his second term.

IF we get to another presidency, it will be Donald Trump, that's what the American people want. But I don't see us having a year starting from now to get rid of Bork. They need to simply invoke the 25'th amendment and get rid of the goofball while they can. The nuclear war which bork and his handlers are trying to start with Russia is not a reasonable solution to anything.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 05:37 am
I can't imagine a Republican getting elected, on observing the crowd leading in the polls. I believe that Sanders will, like Obama did, ace Clinton out and take the job.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 07:28 am
Chris Christie. He is the only candidate from both parties that has the experience to do the job.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 10:03 am
@Robert Gentel,
My heart says Bernie will win.

My head says Hillary will win. Hillary has the political, media and financial ties and she isn't ashamed to use them to every advantage. Just look at how DWS is cooking the debate schedule.

The Republicans are tearing themselves apart (which is kind of fun to watch). My odds on favorite is Cruz, the only other possibility is Rubio. Neither of them have much of a chance of winning the general elections, especially after the mess of the Republican primary.

But on the Democratic side the fix is in.

Hillary, I am afraid, will be our next president.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 11:31 am
@maxdancona,
I agree, Max, that Hillary Clinton will nab the primaries, the nomination, and then the presidency. I'd prefer Bernie Sanders and will vote for him in our New Mexico democratic primary, sans confidence that he'll be the nominee. I've some caution that if he wins the presidency, his ability to govern might get gummed up by antagonists, but I'll worry about that later.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 01:17 pm
@ossobuco,
The Republicans had outdid themselves this cycle with candidates that no sane person could vote for so that leave, as you had stated, Hillary Clinton as no one else in going to win the democratic nomination.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 02:30 pm
@maxdancona,
I'm rooting for Cruz. If Hillary wins it might be time to become apolitical and get a good book to spend my time with during her reign, in my opinion.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 03:14 pm
@Foofie,
Other than a little more ability to self-censor, is there any difference between Cruz and Trump?
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 03:42 pm
It will be Sanders in a historic day at the polls. More Millennials voting than ever before.
Real Music
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 05:30 pm
@Robert Gentel,
We are a long way from the general election. We are also a long way from the democrats and the republicans selecting their nominees. At the present time I believe that Hilary Clinton will be our next president. Yes, I like Bernie Sanders in regard to domestic, economic, and pocketbook issues. I don't believe that Bernie Sanders could win either the democratic nomination or the general election. I believe that Clinton would defeat just about any of the republican candidates. First of all Clinton probably has the best nationwide infrastructure and ground game already in place. Clinton, like Obama, will probably energize a greater number of democrats and independents to vote for her who would normally not vote at all. The only republican, I believe that could give Clinton a run for her money would be Marco Rubio. Reason is because he would probably take away some of the Latino votes away from Clinton. That could be enough for him to win. I think that would be very close contest. I myself will be voting for Hilary Clinton.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 06:09 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
Other than a little more ability to self-censor, is there any difference between Cruz and Trump?

Trump supporters are probably not likely voters (although time will tell). They certainly aren't the people who normally show up to Republican primaries.

Cruz has an interesting combination of religious support (which could win him Iowa) and Tea Party support (which could win him New Hampshire). In the past, candidates who won Iowa with religious support have then done very poorly in New Hampshire. If Cruz wins both Iowa and News Hampshire, that may give him an insurmountable lead over the establishment candidates.

Trump is running on a Fascist platform much like Britain's UKIP or France's National Front. This is contrary to Republican values. Trump's history also shows very little support for traditional Republican issues, and even outright opposition to the Republicans on the issues that Republicans care most about.

Cruz is a hardline Republican extremist, and is a reliable supporter of traditional Republican issues. He differs from the establishment candidates in that he actually wants to do things like shut down the government, whereas an establishment Republican would prefer to compromise and keep the government open.

http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/silver-gop-five-ring-circus-jindal.png
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engineer
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 06:42 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Here are the key points for me:

Favoring the Democrats

- I think the Dems have a electoral college advantage. There are 251 votes pretty much in the Dem column. These are basically the states that Kerry won in 2004. The Republicans can count of 178, basically what McCain won in 2008. The Republicans pretty much have to win all the swing states except one to pull out a win and that one can't be Ohio or Florida.

- The Republicans aren't trying to win the middle so it makes it hard to get those swing states.

- Demographics are working for the Democrats and the Republicans aren't yet trying to play for minorities or young voters. Trump is playing to his nationalist wing and dragging the rest of the candidates with him.

- Both Sanders and Clinton are solid debaters. Rubio and Cruz may be their match but the rest of the Republicans don't have a chance IMO.

Favoring the Republicans

- The Democratic candidates are old. Neither Clinton or Sanders projects the energy and vitality of Cruz or Rubio.

- Both Cruz and Rubio can distance themselves from the Republican party on immigration if they get the nod and I think it is going to be one of those two.

- The US typically changes Presidential parties frequently. GW Bush was the first time the incumbent party won an open election. Clinton was about as popular as a President gets these days and he couldn't get Gore in.

- Both Clinton and Sanders are open to vile, political attacks. The anti-Clinton machine is well oiled and has been in operation for a while. Painting Sanders with the "socialist" card will be very straightforward since he calls himself that.

I think it is going to be Clinton vs Rubio with Clinton pulling out an electoral squeaker.
jim 1968
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 09:14 pm
@engineer,
I think Rubio-Cruz v. Clinton. It depends on if the Republicans are able to energize the Hispanics. If so, then they win by a squeaker. Either way, it is going to be close.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 09:22 pm
@jim 1968,
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It depends on if the Republicans are able to energize the Hispanics.


They wish to deport 11 millions or so of this group and they are going somehow to energize them to vote for them????

Their leading candidate wish to deport those who are native born Americans due to the standing of their parents, to nations they have not tied to.

What strange universe do you live in?
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2015 09:26 pm
@jim 1968,
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I think Rubio-Cruz v. Clinton. It depends on if the Republicans are able to energize the Hispanics. If so, then they win by a squeaker. Either way, it is going to be close.


"Ted Cruz is no more Hispanic than Tom Cruise" (as my Hispanic friends say). Cruz will do well with White Evangelicals. He will not do very well with Hispanic voters.

I think Rubio is the best chance the Republicans have to beat Clinton. I am not sure Rubio is pure enough to make it through the primary.

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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 15 Dec, 2015 05:08 am
@Lash,
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It will be Sanders in a historic day at the polls. More Millennials voting than ever before.


On the day of the next election, IF we get top that day, HDK will be in prison and Benjie Sanders will be in a nursing home.
 

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