The rules are changing, we are going to start showing the assholes the door

@Robert Gentel,

Robert Gentel wrote:

Right now I suspect that all of the recently suspended members would not be if the site had a blocking feature because the users could have either ended the petty bullshit at any time themselves.

Blocking is a much more nuanced tool that will provide a much more vibrant community. We will no longer have to meditate as much and will be able to be more hands off about things, allowing the community to be more inclusive.

With blocking these silly train wrecks will be much less common.

Respectfully, I suspect you are kidding yourself, here.

You are enabling people who want to dominate the site.

This immediate response from Lash and Timur are examples of people who are themselves out-of-control...and who post comments that regularly are worse than anything I post. Frankly, I do not think they are party of the in-clique...but they are part of the petty people who start things they shouldn't...and then find they are in over their heads. Essentially, they are people who cannot stand the heat, but want always to play in the kitchen.

Make it easier for them if you choose, it is your site...but all you are doing it making it easier for their kind...not making the site more attractive.

And "making the site" more attractive is what is needed. More people participating...rather than just a relatively few arguing amongst themselves day after day.

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Frank wrote:

...Timur are examples of people who are themselves out-of-control.

Now you are pretending to have an expertise on "out-of-control" people.

Can I ask where you have acquired that skill?

Will you ever cease uttering such crap?

You make this site worse, not better.

I personally encourage Robert to implement any feature that allows people to get rid of your pettiness.

For my self, being out-of-control, I don't need those to call **** what you vomit all the time.

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That bit of pleasantry is the kind of thing that Timur comes up with regularly...while castigating me on the tone of my posts!!!

He is looking forward to what you are proposing.

I am suggesting you may be headed in the wrong direction.

At least give that some consideration.

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@Frank Apisa,

Those giving you any consideration are shooting themselves in the foot.

You always pretend to know what other people think.

How do you come to the conclusion that I'm looking forward to anything?

You are a ****-stirrer.

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ROBERT:

Another bit of pleasantry from Timur (who supports and encourages the changes) for you to consider.

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@Frank Apisa,

Evade and divert all you want.

I don't think Robert is the kind to be impressed by some seemingly light sally..

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

I've been accused of "harassing" individuals from this site.

I have not! Nor am I egotistical enough to suppose for one second that I could do it.

Frank, frank, frank........ only my humble opinion, but ya got yourself a great big blind spot there. You are at the very least capable of harassing -you definitely "could do it".
Especially if it is egotism that would predispose someone to do it.

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@Frank Apisa,

On the occasions I have had a run in with you, I have found you to be rather reluctant to use abuse but rather dogged to not leave the discussion as an agree to disagree. Nevertheless, I managed to quit our discussions when it was clear you didn't have the intelligence to agree with me and we started off quite amicably when we next met. Some people love to hate you and I dont know why. I can honestly say I have never seen you throw the first insult and it usually takes several posts of rather obnoxious name calling by your opponents before you do respond in kind. Most of those who dislike you are the cheer squad for the other side. They jump in to a topic with: yeah, he's an idiot, get him (insert name)! Now those clowns should be shown the door.

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Gee Rob, you certainly got them on their toes here... Remember however that nothing you do to the site will change the spirit in which its members post. They will keep on bickering to no end, whatever code you write, whatever bells and whistles you build. They might have to do away with words like "fag", "kike" or "pedophile", but they'll learn new, creative ways to insult one another. They'll just use cute words drenched in vitriol...

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@timur,

timur wrote:

Evade and divert all you want.

I don't think Robert is the kind to be impressed by some seemingly light sally..

I am not diverting, Timur.

My guess is the vast majority of my posts are MUCH less offensive than than the vast majority of yours.

And you start things you are incapable of finishing.

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@snood,

snood wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

I've been accused of "harassing" individuals from this site.

I have not! Nor am I egotistical enough to suppose for one second that I could do it.

Frank, frank, frank........ only my humble opinion, but ya got yourself a great big blind spot there. You are at the very least capable of harassing -you definitely "could do it".
Especially if it is egotism that would predispose someone to do it.

Read what I actually said, Snood.

I have not done it...and I am not egotistical enough to suppose I could.

Are you egotistical enough to suppose you could drive someone from this forum?

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@Ionus,

Thank you, Ionus...I think. Wink

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Frank wrote:

My guess is the vast majority of my posts are MUCH less offensive than than the vast majority of yours.

And you start things you are incapable of finishing.

Your guesses are worth ****, like in the case of your guesses about atheists.

That I'm blunt and you are a weasel, doesn't make your posts less offensive to me.

You have never finished anything and you will not in the future.

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@timur,

timur wrote:

Frank wrote:
My guess is the vast majority of my posts are MUCH less offensive than than the vast majority of yours.

And you start things you are incapable of finishing.

Your guesses are worth ****, like in the case of your guesses about atheists.

That I'm blunt and you are a weasel, doesn't make your posts less offensive to me.

You have never finished anything and you will not in the future.

You are not blunt, Timur. You are rude and obnoxious...except when you are being outrageously rude and obnoxious.

I have finished everything you've ever started with me...and I will continue to do so. Obviously you are masochistic...and since I love you, I will feed that need of yours.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

I have not done it...and I am not egotistical enough to suppose I could.

Are you egotistical enough to suppose you could drive someone from this forum?

Frank I like you, but you are wrong here and yes you have done it. That doesn't make you some kind of forum monster, I've probably done it more often than you have and it doesn't necessarily have to be by intent either.

You and I can sometimes come on a bit strong, we are opinionated. You have, in fact, come on a bit strong for some and when that made spending their time here less enjoyable than they thought it should be in order to spend their time here some have in fact chosen to leave.

It happens, and yes you have done it and yes you know how you can do less of it. We all do. It's not that big a deal to admit to it.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

Gee Rob, you certainly got them on their toes here... Remember however that nothing you do to the site will change the spirit in which its members post. They will keep on bickering to no end, whatever code you write, whatever bells and whistles you build. They might have to do away with words like "fag", "kike" or "pedophile", but they'll learn new, creative ways to insult one another. They'll just use cute words drenched in vitriol...

Sure, and that's why some of the changes simply need to be to allow for different lines of conversation to progress more easily. With one linear conversation toxic conversations ruin topics for everyone for example. Blocking too is something that will reduce the bickering in ways that no rule can as well.

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@timur,

timur wrote:

You are a ****-stirrer.

You are being very ironic here. I mean, sure I get calling Frank that and any of us opinionated sorts but what are you doing here if not what you are accusing him of?

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Frank wrote:

I have finished everything you've ever started with me

Being the liar you are, I remind you that I replied to you since when you insulted me for no reason and when I wasn't even talking to you.

I'll probably be banned and prevented from posting but you'll not finish anything.

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@Frank Apisa,

I don't understand your objection to blocking here, are you saying you think they'd block you and you would want to talk to them anyway?

If so I think that's a serious case of miswanting, if however you are expressing that you take a dim view of their postings blocking is merely a tool to excise that from your experience if you choose to.

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And they're off

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