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U.S. Governors Suspend Refugee Relocation in their States

 
 
roger
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 01:37 am
@hawkeye10,
Well, dayum. I thought I would get an argument on this.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 01:49 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

Well, dayum. I thought I would get an argument on this.

I like to argue. What shall we argue about?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 02:02 am
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At a news conference, Mr Cazeneuve said "no information" had been received from other European countries about his arrival on the continent.
But he said he had received intelligence that Abaaoud had passed through Greece on his return from Syria.
"It is urgent that Europe wakes up, organises itself and defends itself against the terrorist threat," Mr Cazeneuve told reporters.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34875999
French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve


Hey, I just said today that the French are stupid, that they are an example of what to not do, but apparently the times are a'changing.

Everybody can shut up for awhile with this constant storyline that the Republicans are bad stupid people. They are very likely right in this case, and if you dont think they are right than prove it. But this constantly demeaning them (and I do mean them, not just their ideas) needs to stop. This assuming that something is wrong, must be wrong, because a republican said it is not just stupid, it rips at the Fabric of America.

We are better than this. We need to be better than this.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 02:14 am
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Some of the suspected terrorists in the recent Paris attacks used the refugee crisis to enter Europe unnoticed, said France's Prime Minister Manuel Valls on Thursday.
"These individuals took advantage of the refugee crisis... of the chaos, perhaps, for some of them to slip in" to France, Valls said on the France 2 television station. "Others were in Belgium already. And others, I must remind you, were in France."
He urged France's neighboring countries as well as other EU states to "play their role properly" when it comes to border controls. Valls also warned that Europe's prized Schengen zone would be "called into question... if Europe does not take responsibility" for its borders.
Earlier on Thursday, Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said Paris received "no information" from other EU countries about Abaaoud's arrival, despite the fact he was a known jihadist with an international arrest warrant.

http://www.dw.com/en/french-pm-urges-eu-to-take-responsibility-for-borders/a-18863323
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 02:35 am
@hawkeye10,
Footnote as far as we should not be worry about bringing women and children here take note of the young woman who blow herself up in Paris and by doing so harm a number of police officers.

An children grow up in not all that many years and some of them will likely turn into such people as the Boston Bombers.

The best way of safety helping the refugees is using military force to made it safe for them to return home.

Once more our first duty is to our own women and children.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 02:50 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Footnote as far as we should not be worry about bringing women and children here take note of the young woman who blow herself up in Paris and by doing so harm a number of police officers.
Yes, those French women are dangerous ... certainly no American female ever has been dangerous for policemen
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 02:52 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
The best way of safety helping the refugees is using military force to made it safe for them to return home.
Something which has been done throughout history, isn't it?
layman
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 03:09 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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None of the French attackers was a refugee from Syria.


Of course he wasn't a "refugee." He wasn't coming to France to "escape." He was coming to attack. He just pretended to be a refugee:

Quote:
Ahmed Almuhamed, 25, whose Syrian passport was found on the body of a suicide bomber, took more than a month to get to France after posing as a Migrant when he arrived in Leros, Greece... [with picture] Serbian media says this is 25-year-old Ahmed Almuhamed, whose Syrian passport is pictured, who blew himself up at the Bataclan concert hall and is believed to have sneaked into France with another terrorist by posing as refugees from Syria...[with picture] A Greek website has uncovered the terror suspect's ferry tickets to Greece and shows he was travelling with a Mohammed Almuhamed, likely to be a relation.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3318379/Hunt-Isis-killers-Syrian-passport-body-suicide-bomber-Stade-France.html





Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 03:14 am
@layman,
"Ahmed al-Mohammed"s identity still isn't verified.
layman
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 03:16 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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"Ahmed al-Mohammed"s identity still isn't verified.


Really? Well, if YOU don't know who he is, how would you "know" he was not from Syria when you made that claim?
layman
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 03:28 am
@layman,
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According to Serbian media, a Syrian passport belonging to Ahmed Almuhamed was found at the scene of the attack at the Stade de France.

Now a Greek newspaper claims to have discovered the 25-year-old and a family member, called Mohammed Almuhmed, were rescued from a wrecked migrant boat that had sunk on the journey from Syria.

The rescued men were brought to the island of Leros on October 3. They were among a convoy of 69 refugees who were registered and had their fingerprints taken before continuing on their journey.

Greece’s deputy minister in charge of police, Nikos Toscas, said he was ‘identified [as a refugee] according to EU rules’ as he passed through the country. A statement from a minister said Almuhamed had requested asylum in the town of Presevo in Serbia before crossing into Croatia and Austria.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/paris-attacks-terrorist-suspect-ahmed-6836199
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 04:07 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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Something which has been done throughout history, isn't it?


LOL and other then Roman at it height the US is also without peer in it military power in history and wiping out ISIS and moving the refuges back home is well within our power.

If we are not willing to do so for some strange reason that is just too bad for the refuges as once more our first duty is the welfare and the protection of our own women and children.


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revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 06:40 am
Here’s How Obama Could Win the Fight over Syrian Refugees
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 07:40 am
@revelette2,
Sorry I voted for the man but I can not see for example the vetting process working for the two Boston Bombers brothers when they first move to the US.

An Obama claims we have nothing to worry about due the refugees being mainly women and children even if true for all of the 10,000 and not just the first group given the to date charming habit of even some children raised or even born in Western nations from such groups turning trailors to their birth or adopted nations in the name of Allah, it does not seem a too bright thing to do.

As far as women being harmless so we only need to worry about young men take note that it was a young woman who blown herself up and harming five cops in Paris by doing so.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 07:59 am
@revelette2,
47 cowards flinch because of political expediency or worse, racism and fearmongering.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 08:42 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

As far as women being harmless so we only need to worry about young men take note that it was a young woman who blown herself up and harming five cops in Paris by doing so.
And for some doing mass shootings at schools - something, usually done by refugees, isn't it?
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 09:00 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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And for some doing mass shootings at schools - something, usually done by refugees, isn't it?


Let see by that logic due to us having crazies that are killers just for the hell of it we should risk taking in a large group that might have killers that are motivated by religion reasons?????

Frankly I do not see either the logic or the connection.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 11:18 am
@tsarstepan,
Try telling that to the people who lost arms and legs or the families of those who was killed by the Boston bombers or the people of Paris for that matter.

tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 11:28 am
@BillRM,
So basically what you're saying is, the longer the innocent children get to suffer in horror and terror over there in the war zone of Syria and elsewhere, you'd be happy and proud to know they will have the high potential to actually become terrorists themselves because WE DID **** NOTHING and stood by while we could have safely harbored them from danger.

The Boston bombers weren't Syrian refugees you f-ing liar.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 20 Nov, 2015 11:29 am
@tsarstepan,
 

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