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When will Jeb Bush give up his candidacy?

 
 
Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 03:00 pm
It's looking pretty rough for the former Republican frontrunner. Today he announced he is cutting staff and payr0ll. He's made several missteps (supporting the Iraq war, claiming his brother made us safe, using a private email server, etc) and the trends just aren't going his way.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 03:15 pm
@engineer,
The optics are really bad, he has been saying up till the last days that he has the financial wherewithal to go the distance, then he either does not or thinks that the only way to get there is to **** the people who are working for him. I also noticed that in this hour of crisis his campaign chair was just a few days ago giving a speech in Berlin, which got all kinds of blowback because he looked not committed to JEB! 16. At this point we need to question not only the feasibility of the candidate but also whether it is even possible that his staff has good enough morale to get him anywhere if he did.

He looks done to me. I think it has become clear to everyone that he is too dumb to take on Trump and Carson, by which I literally mean that his brain is too slow. There will not be more money coming unless he is a whole new person at the next debate. He will not be, then I think he needs to go, because then he is every day an embarrassment to the Bush dynasty.

EDIT: I think it is fascinating that for the longest time Jeb has been considered the smarter brother, but put him in the big time crowd and it became clear fast that George is. I become more fascinated by George as the years go on, over the years we have heard insiders say that George is actually very bright, but he played not so bright on the public stage, much as Trump is doing. I understand politics reasonably well, but I dont get either the ego or the political payoff for doing that. And then we see the opposite too, Obama playing like he is really smart when he is not. Interesting stuff.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 04:02 pm
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“Jeb’s just blended into the second tier of the Republican pack,” said Doug Corn, an Ohio-based financial adviser and top fundraiser for George W. Bush who hasn’t donated to a candidate this year. “When you run for president, you have to be very charismatic, you have to articulate extremely well and you have to show unbelievable amounts of passion.”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/jeb-bush-struggles-to-galvanize-his-familys-donor-base-as-campaign-falters-1445557025

All that is true and lacking in JEB! 16, but something deeper is wrong with Jeb. Lack of confidence, lack of ability to think on his feet, lack of ability to size up people fast and modulate his behaviour to win them over. It all adds up to him being a small stage person, fine for being governor of a medium sized state, not fine for the POTUS chair.
engineer
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 04:29 pm
@hawkeye10,
In the end I think Jeb is more of an introvert compared to his extroverted brother. He's fine one on one or with people he's familiar with, but put him in a situation where he has to wing it and he over thinks it.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 04:32 pm
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

In the end I think Jeb is more of an introvert compared to his extroverted brother. He's fine one on one or with people he's familiar with, but put him in a situation where he has to wing it and he over thinks it.

That would absolutely positively be a person who should not be in the POTUS chair. How then did so many of the R big money men get it wrong? I slam the elite constantly, but this would be a whole new level of elite incompetence.
engineer
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 04:46 pm
@hawkeye10,
Because when the contributors meet with Jeb, it is one on one or in small groups where introverts aren't disadvantaged. I don't know that we couldn't have a more thoughtful type as President, but I agree Bush isn't the guy.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 06:03 pm
@engineer,
They sure thought his issues would be a match, but my sense is that overall the elite have gotten fat sloppy arrogant and lazy like usually happens when people have had too much easy success for too long. The antithesis of this is Trump and Sanders, and to a lesser extent Carson. which is why they are doing so well. The people are hungering for something else because we dont think what we have been doing is working.

I think the only thing that saves Jeb! 16! now is something like an economic crash or military conflict with Russia, and it would have to happen soon.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 06:33 pm
@hawkeye10,
Jeb! has burned $11.7 Million in three months, has $10.3 million left and the checks have pretty much stopped coming, which is the reason for the "right sizing".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/10/16/the-daily-202-jeb-bushs-86-burn-rate-underscores-fundraising-struggles-for-the-gop-establishment/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34619141

I do think that the embarrassment factor gets him out before the empty bank account however.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 06:58 pm
@hawkeye10,
Jeb! 16 is aiming for a burn rate of $ 8 million every three months.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/some-other-presidential-candidates-likely-to-drop-out-soon-150817079.html

Looks like the plan to to basically put the campaign into hibernation, hoping for a miracle. We see how day in day out being an embarrassment to the Bush family name wears.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 07:48 pm
@engineer,
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/24/upshot/betting-markets-call-marco-rubio-front-runner-in-gop.html?_r=0

Quote:
It’s official: Jeb Bush is no longer the leading contender to become the Republican candidate for president. Instead, prediction markets now rate Marco Rubio as far more likely to get the nod.

One broad measure of the betting markets puts Mr. Rubio’s chances at 34 percent versus Mr. Bush’s at 23 percent.


Quote:
As Mr. Bush’s star has faded, that of Mr. Rubio has brightened. Mr. Rubio, who is set to appear Sunday morning on CNN’s “State of the Union” political talk show, shares many similarities with Mr. Bush. Both are Florida-based mainstream conservatives who are popular among Hispanics. In some sense, this shift from Mr. Bush to Mr. Rubio is just a rebalancing as to which establishment candidate is expected to win the nomination.



http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/presidential-candidates-dashboard.html?rref=upshot

Quote:
Marco Rubio has taken a noticeable lead over Jeb Bush and other Republicans in the prediction markets. Ben Carson is now leading in the Iowa polls, pulling ahead of Donald Trump, who had been in first place since July.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 08:36 pm
About two hours ago n Lincoln Chafee did also.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 24 Oct, 2015 05:59 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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But what could be more troubling for Bush is what our colleague Mark Murray noted today -- the big money Bush and the super PAC supporting him have spent on ads has not been helping him. Bush and allies have spent almost DOUBLE what the second highest spender in the 2016 race (Team Kasich) have on ads, according to ad-spending numbers from NBC News ad-tracking partner SMG Delta. And that raises the question: How much worse off would the former Florida governor be if he supporters had not already spent $10.7 million? And when you take a step back and compare where Bush is to Clinton's good week, it becomes clear the hole Bush is in for the primary, let alone the general election.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/lid-bleak-outlook-bush-campaign-cuts-costs-n450616

The elite best figure out that things have changed, they can no longer package up poor politicians, that I mean mold the product into what ever the fad of the day is, and sell them like the music industry sells low talent pop acts. Studio tricks make for nice sounding ads, but the masses have seen behind the curtain, we want more now. We want real people who know what they are doing. Authenticity they call it, and Bush's handlers dont want to go their because the real JEB! kinda sucks in person.

Re Clinton, the D's are running her unopposed. The fact that she is "winning" does not mean anything, you cant lose when there is no race.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2015 01:44 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Chafee dropped out!!! Are you as shocked as I am??????
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2015 08:32 am
@glitterbag,
He just couldn't get any traction. That and he looks like a ventriloquist's dummy. Literally a chip off his father's block.

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2015 08:34 am
Jeb Bush Plays Down Speculation That His Campaign Is Doomed

Last edited Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:19 PM - Edit history (2)
Source: Huffingtonpost

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) on Saturday brushed off speculation that his presidential campaign was struggling, and ... a day after his campaign announced it was cutting payroll and budget by 40 and 45 percent, respectively, Bush said that he was simply making an "adjustment."
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After an anonymous donor told The Washington Post that Bush's campaign had entered a "death spiral," the former Florida governor said that reports of his campaign's struggling were ... "Blah, blah, blah," he said. "That's my answer -- blah, blah, blah."

While Bush said on Saturday that his October polling was of little concern because the party would select its nominee in February and March, once caucuses and primaries began, he also sounded like a man who had had enough -- fed up with the constant attacks on his stamina by the reality TV star stomping him in the polls, and ready to let the voters make a bad decision if they wanted to.
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Bush, who was considered a front-runner for the Republican nomination when he announced his candidacy in June, has experienced a slide in the polls recently. According to HuffPost Pollster, he has the support of 7.3 percent of likely Republican primary voters nationally, trailing Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.). He's also not faring well in Iowa, where he only has the support of 5.2 percent of likely caucusgoers. In New Hampshire, Bush has the support of 8 percent of likely GOP primary voters, trailing Trump, Carson, Carly Fiorina and Ohio Gov. John Kasich.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeb-bush-campaign-struggling_562bc38de4b0443bb5642da1


Jeb's epic fail will surpass Connally and Baker in 1980, Gramm in 1996, Lieberman in 2004, and Giuliani in 2008.

Even Predictwise, which remained bullish on Bush after his polling collapsed, is dropping his shares:

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2015 08:44 am
Jeb Bush Goes Off: I Could Be Doing ‘Really Cool Things’ Instead of Being President

Last edited Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:57 AM - Edit history (1)
Source: Mediaite.com

Jeb Bush let his agitation show on the campaign trail Saturday when he complained about gridlock and partisanship in South Carolina. Bush attended a presidential town hall held by Senator Tim Scott, and they were even joined on stage by none other than South Carolina congressman and Benghazi Select Committee chairman Trey Gowdy.

At one point, when he was lamenting the state of partisan politics, Bush said, “If this election is about how we’re going to fight to get nothing done, then I don’t want any part of it.” He said he would not want to become president just so the gridlock continues.


And that’s when Bush really got agitated:

“I’ve got a lot of really cool things I could do other than sit around, being miserable, listening to people demonize me and me feeling compelled to demonize them. That is a joke. Elect Trump if you want that.”

Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jeb-goes-off-i-could-be-doing-really-cool-things-instead-of-being-president-you-know/
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2015 12:30 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Sounds like being an embarrassment to the Bush family name is getting to Jeb! already.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2015 02:49 pm
Jeb Bush Tied To Rum Lobby In Missing Emails

October 2, 2015 by Samuel Warde 3 Comments

Jeb Bush by Gage Skidmore 4

Oh the hypocrisy as Jeb “I released all my emails” Bush is tied to the Rum Lobby in a collection of missing emails which were recently discovered.

Correct The Record, a strategic research and rapid response team designed to defend Hillary Clinton from baseless attacks, followed up on Thursday’s CNN report revealing the substance of a series of emails in which Bush weighed in on a dispute between Bacardi and Cuba over the rights to the ‘Havana Club’ rum label.



Despite Jeb Bush’s factually deficient, repeated claims that he released all of his emails, CNN reported today [Thursday] that new emails have surfaced showing the former Florida governor’s sordid history with the rum lobby—emails that were noticeably missing from his already released email records.

The gap in his emails not only highlights the hypocrisy of Jeb Bush’s wrongheaded attacks against Hillary Clinton, but reveal several unanswered questions about the Bush’s close ties to lobbyists.

Correct The Record went on to note a few quick facts about Bush’s transparency – or lack thereof:

Jeb said he received 550,000 emails on his private account during his eight years as governor.
Jeb has only released 250,000 of these emails.
Jeb was required to do this by Florida sunshine law.
It took Jeb nearly eight years after his time in office to release these emails (a potential criminal offense).

Correct The Record went on to list a massive amount of incrimenating background on Bush and his missing emails. We will list a few here, but you should go and checkout the full Correct The Record report here.



Jeb Bush failed to release e-mails related to official government business

Jeb Bush’s e-mail release did not include correspondence in which he personally weighed in on a trade dispute between Bacardi and Cuba. “But a 2002 trade battle between Bacardi and Cuba over the rights to the ‘Havana Club’ label shows Bush’s transparency has its limits and shows some details are missing from the Bush email repository. A string of emails from Bush personally weighing in on the Bacardi fight when he was governor of Florida were not among any of the releases. Their existence is only known because a Florida investigative reporter obtained them years ago.” [CNN, 10/01/15]

Jeb Bush’s e-mail dump excluded correspondence with a top George W. Bush appointee at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. “Bush emails obtained from the state in the following months show his top Tallahassee and Washington staff working consistently on the issue, including a renewed push in April 2002 and again, a few months later, when Bush sent a letter to James Rogan, then-director of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Rogan, a former California congressman who helped lead the Clinton impeachment proceedings, was appointed to the position by Bush’s brother, President George W. Bush. The letter was not included in the emails released by Bush, but Christensen posted a copy he obtained.” [CNN, 10/01/15]

Jeb Bush owned a private email server and hand selected emails to disclose

Jeb Bush conducted all his communication on his private [email protected] account and hand selected which emails to turn over to the state archive. “The former governor conducted all his communication on his private [email protected] account and turned over the hand-selected batch to the state archives when he left office. Absent from the stash are emails the governor deemed not relevant to the public record: those relating to politics, fundraising and personal matters while he was governor. Compared to Scott, however, who rarely communicates by email, the contrast is stark.’ [Tampa Bay Times, 1/3/15]

Jeb Bush released his private emails from the state archive, but the files were “not complete.” “The files released from the state archive resulted in a stream of positive national press for the former governor — ‘Jeb Bush’s emails depict a hands-on governor,’ the Washington Post proclaimed. ‘Jeb answered immigrant pleas,’’ the Hill wrote. Polls now show that if Bush announces, he will be considered the front-runner. The Bush files, though enormous, are not complete, however.” [Tampa Bay Times, 1/3/15]



Jeb Bush released emails that exposed Social Security numbers

Emails released by Jeb Bush included names, emails, and Social Security number of many Florida residents “leaving them vulnerable to identity thieves.” “A trove of 250,000 emails released by prospective 2016 presidential candidate Jeb Bush includes the sensitive personal information of several Florida residents, leaving them vulnerable to identity thieves. A scan of the email dump by technology blogs The Verge and Gizmodo revealed names, emails and in some cases, Social Security numbers of Bush’s correspondents. Many appear to be normal Florida residents unaware their messages to the then-governor would eventually become public.” [The Hill, 2/10/15]

Jeb Bush’s email release was an “indiscriminate data dump being made for political reasons” and showed “a serious ignorance of the volume of sensitive information in the records and carelessness about their disclosure.” “Many posts were critical of Bush, who is expected to be a major contender for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016. ‘Even if most of these emails are subject to Sunshine Law disclosure, a public request for specific information is not the same as a huge, indiscriminate data dump being made for political reasons,’ wrote T.C. Sottek with The Verge, which first reported the presence of Social Security numbers in the trove. ‘At minimum, it shows a serious ignorance of the volume of sensitive information in the records and a carelessness about their disclosure — not a good look for someone who may want to sit in the White House,’ Sottek wrote.” [The Hill, 2/10/15]

Jeb Bush’s server housed sensitive information

Jeb Bush discussed “security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants” using email housed on his private server. “Jeb Bush used his private e-mail account as Florida governor to discuss security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants, according to a review of publicly released records. The e-mails include two series of exchanges involving details of Florida National Guard troop deployments after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the review by The Washington Post found. Aides to Bush said Saturday that none of the e-mails contained sensitive or classified information, and that many of the events mentioned in them were documented in press accounts, either contemporaneously or later. But security experts say private e-mail systems such as the one used by Bush are more vulnerable to hackers, and that details such as troop movements could be exploited by enemies.” [Washington Post, 3/14/15]

Jeb Bush, within two months of 9/11, “ordered the National Guard to pull its troops from protecting nuclear power plants in Florida, simply because the private corporations that operated the plants didn’t want the protection.” “‘In November 2001, Bush and an aide to then-Lt. Gov. Frank Brogan exchanged messages about the deployment of National Guard troops to a nuclear power plant in Crystal River, Fla. The aide wrote Bush that a state lawmaker had called to say she thought “it is imperative that the Crystal River nuclear facility have National Guard security.” Bush wrote back: “Florida power does not want it. We are reducing or getting rid of guard protection in the other plants.”‘ That last line, to me, is the real bombshell — that within two months of 9/11, Bush ordered the National Guard to pull its troops from protecting nuclear power plants in Florida, simply because the private corporations that operated the plants didn’t want the protection. I wonder if the people who lived near the plants wanted the protection.” [Salon, 8/14/15]
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2015 02:54 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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Jeb said he received 550,000 emails on his private account during his eight years as governor.
Jeb has only released 250,000 of these emails.
Jeb was required to do this by Florida sunshine law.


Florida demands that its Govs forfeit communications privacy on private matters? In that case this state is even more fucked up than I thought it was. We will never get good people to serve us if they have to give up a lot of rights to do so, a lot of quality of life.

Note: that Florida law is this much a mess remains to be seen, I am not inclined to take a political pressure groups word for anything as lying in this society is pervasive, lying for political gain being especially common.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2015 02:59 pm
THE HYPOCRISY OF JEB “I RELEASED ALL MY EMAILS” BUSH: JEB! TIED TO RUM LOBBY IN MISSING EMAILS, QUESTIONS AND GAPS REMAIN



Despite Jeb Bush’s factually deficient, repeated claims that he released all of his emails, CNN reported today that new emails have surfaced showing the former Florida governor’s sordid history with the rum lobby—emails that were noticeably missing from his already released email records.

The gap in his emails not only highlights the hypocrisy of Jeb Bush’s wrongheaded attacks against Hillary Clinton, but reveal several unanswered questions about the Bush’s close ties to lobbyists.

Here are some quick facts about Jeb Bush’s transparency (or lack thereof):

Jeb said he received 550,000 emails on his private account during his eight years as governor.
Jeb has only released 250,000 of these emails.
Jeb was required to do this by Florida sunshine law.
It took Jeb nearly eight years after his time in office to release these emails (a potential criminal offense).

Here’s more:
Jeb Bush failed to release e-mails related to official government business

Jeb Bush’s e-mail release did not include correspondence in which he personally weighed in on a trade dispute between Bacardi and Cuba. “But a 2002 trade battle between Bacardi and Cuba over the rights to the ‘Havana Club’ label shows Bush’s transparency has its limits and shows some details are missing from the Bush email repository. A string of emails from Bush personally weighing in on the Bacardi fight when he was governor of Florida were not among any of the releases. Their existence is only known because a Florida investigative reporter obtained them years ago.” [CNN, 10/01/15]

CNN: Jeb Bush’s e-mail release was “missing some incisive emails” related to the Bacardi dispute. “But even all those gigabytes are still missing some incisive emails — like an April 2002 directive from Bush to his then-chief of staff with a clear message about the rum lobbying fight: ‘this is ridiculous. let us discuss.’” [CNN, 10/01/15]

CNN: “Some of the most relevant” e-mails about the Bacardi dispute were missing from Jeb Bush’s “much-trumpeted data dump.” “More than a dozen relevant emails about the battle were found in the state of Florida public records response, and a smaller number were found in Bush’s own release last December. But some of the most relevant ones — tying Bush to calls for direct action for Bacardi — were missing from his much-trumpeted data dump.” [CNN, 10/01/15]

Jeb Bush’s e-mail dump excluded correspondence with a top George W. Bush appointee at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. “Bush emails obtained from the state in the following months show his top Tallahassee and Washington staff working consistently on the issue, including a renewed push in April 2002 and again, a few months later, when Bush sent a letter to James Rogan, then-director of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Rogan, a former California congressman who helped lead the Clinton impeachment proceedings, was appointed to the position by Bush’s brother, President George W. Bush. The letter was not included in the emails released by Bush, but Christensen posted a copy he obtained.” [CNN, 10/01/15]

Jeb Bush’s e-mails around the Bacardi dispute were absent from both his e-mail release and a Florida Department of State response to an open record request. “Among the emails not made public by Bush, but documented by Florida investigative reporter Dan Christensen earlier this year, is the reply from Bush’s then-chief of staff Kathleen Shanahan that their early efforts for Bacardi had not worked and ‘we may need to move up the food chain.’ The Bacardi emails were not in copies of Bush’s emails provided to CNN by the Florida Department of State in response to an open records request. They also were not found on Bush’s email website — which includes a smaller set of the batch released by the state.” [CNN, 10/01/15]

Jeb Bush’s campaign refused to say what happened to the missing e-mails about the Bacardi trade dispute. “A Bush campaign spokeswoman did not say what happened to the missing emails and would not say whether she felt Bush should back off the Clinton email attacks. Instead, spokeswoman Kristy Campbell touted Bush’s ‘unprecedented commitment to transparency.’” [CNN, 10/01/15]
Jeb Bush owned a private email server and hand selected emails to disclose

Jeb Bush owned and operated a private e-mail server. “Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush owns the server that runs [email protected], the personal email account he used as governor to conduct official, political and personal business. […] The server was housed in a state-owned office building during the years that Bush served as governor, from 1999 until early 2007.” [MSNBC, 3/4/15]

Jeb Bush conducted all his communication on his private [email protected] account and hand selected which emails to turn over to the state archive. “The former governor conducted all his communication on his private [email protected] account and turned over the hand-selected batch to the state archives when he left office. Absent from the stash are emails the governor deemed not relevant to the public record: those relating to politics, fundraising and personal matters while he was governor. Compared to Scott, however, who rarely communicates by email, the contrast is stark.’ [Tampa Bay Times, 1/3/15]

Jeb Bush released his private emails from the state archive, but the files were “not complete.” “The files released from the state archive resulted in a stream of positive national press for the former governor — ‘Jeb Bush’s emails depict a hands-on governor,’ the Washington Post proclaimed. ‘Jeb answered immigrant pleas,’’ the Hill wrote. Polls now show that if Bush announces, he will be considered the front-runner. The Bush files, though enormous, are not complete, however.” [Tampa Bay Times, 1/3/15]

As governor, Jeb Bush had three email accounts, including [email protected]. “In three follow-up e-mails (which Bush also answers promptly), the governor reveals: He has three e-mail accounts, receives 200 to 300 a day [email protected] and reads most of them. He guesses that 25 percent of the e-mails come from colleagues, 50 percent from constituents, 10 percent from family and friends and 15 percent from junk mail and list mail. The risk, he says, is in relying too much on e-mail, at the expense of face-to-face nuance. ‘There is always [the] threat of invading family time!’ he writes.” [The Washington Post, 2/21/03]

Bush continued to use the private [email protected] email after leaving office. [Email from Jeb Bush To Matt Castner, 6/5/08]

Bush estimated 25 percent of email traffic came from colleagues. “In three follow-up e-mails (which Bush also answers promptly), the governor reveals: He has three e-mail accounts, receives 200 to 300 a day [email protected] and reads most of them. He guesses that 25 percent of the e-mails come from colleagues, 50 percent from constituents, 10 percent from family and friends and 15 percent from junk mail and list mail. The risk, he says, is in relying too much on e-mail, at the expense of face-to-face nuance. ‘There is always [the] threat of invading family time!’ he writes.” [The Washington Post, 2/21/03]

Jeb Bush used a second and previously unreported [email protected] account. ”As Florida governor, Jeb Bush used another, previously unreported email address, records show – the newest wrinkle in an evolving debate over public officials’ use of private email accounts. When Bush released thousands of emails from his tenure as Florida’s governor as part of his preparations to run for president next year, he did so from the email account he shared openly, [email protected]. Those emails also include references to another email address, [email protected]. Bush said through a spokeswoman that he was unaware of the account, although records showed that people wrote to him there more than 400 times between 1999 and 2004.” [AP, 3/24/15]

Jeb Bush only publicly released emails associated with is [email protected] account. ”When Bush released thousands of emails from his tenure as Florida’s governor as part of his preparations to run for president next year, he did so from the email account he shared openly, [email protected].” [AP, 3/24/15]

Bush claimed to have no knowledge of the second account although he received more than 400 emails there between 1999 and 2004. ”Bush said through a spokeswoman that he was unaware of the account, although records showed that people wrote to him there more than 400 times between 1999 and 2004. The same records show no replies from Bush coming from that address. Instead, when Bush responded, he did so from his more well-known email address. Writers sometimes also reached the governor at [email protected] or [email protected]. Bush’s spokeswoman, Kristy Campbell, said Bush had no knowledge of the other email account. ‘He doesn’t know what that email address is,’ she told The Associated Press Tuesday.” [Associated Press, 3/24/15]

Writers were also able to reach Jeb Bush at [email protected] and [email protected]. “Those emails also include references to another email address, [email protected]. Bush said through a spokeswoman that he was unaware of the account, although records showed that people wrote to him there more than 400 times between 1999 and 2004. The same records show no replies from Bush coming from that address. Instead, when Bush responded, he did so from his more well-known email address. Writers sometimes also reached the governor at [email protected] or [email protected].” [AP, 3/24/15]

Jeb Bush estimated 25 percent of email traffic came from colleagues. ”In three follow-up e-mails (which Bush also answers promptly), the governor reveals: He has three e-mail accounts, receives 200 to 300 a day [email protected] and reads most of them. He guesses that 25 percent of the e-mails come from colleagues, 50 percent from constituents, 10 percent from family and friends and 15 percent from junk mail and list mail. The risk, he says, is in relying too much on e-mail, at the expense of face-to-face nuance. ‘There is always [the] threat of invading family time!’ he writes.” [The Washington Post, 2/21/03]

Jeb Bush only turned over emails seven and a half years after his tenure as Governor ended despite a Florida statute requiring officials to turn over records “at the expiration of his or her term of office.” ”It took Mr. Bush seven years after leaving office to comply fully with a Florida public records statute requiring him to turn over emails he sent and received as governor, according to records released Friday. Mr. Bush delivered the latest batch of 25,000 emails in May 2014, seven and a half years after leaving the Statehouse and just as he started to contemplate a potential run for the White House, according to a newly disclosed letter written by his lawyer. A Florida statute governing the preservation of public records requires elected officials, including the governor, to turn over records pertaining to official business ‘at the expiration of his or her term of office.’” [New York Times, 3/14/15]
Jeb Bush received 550,000 personal emails

Jeb Bush said “I received 550,000 personal e-mails when I was governor.” “This BlackBerry was in the portrait done when I left office. It was a symbol of how I worked. I received 550,000 personal e-mails when I was governor.” [Esquire, 12/22/08]

Jeb Bush said he received 550,000 e-mails on his private account during his eight years as governor. “Jeb Bush learned plenty during his eight years as Florida governor, he told a crowd at a United Christian Giving fundraiser in Fort Myers on Thursday. The president’s little brother and former president’s son took few partisan shots, mostly entertaining the crowd with stories from ‘Mount Tallahassee.’ […] Bush said he got 550,000 e-mails on his private account and another 2.5 million on his public account during his eight years as governor. That helped him stay in touch with the people of the state even though the capital is far removed geographically from most of the population.” [Naples Daily News, 7/12/07]

Jeb Bush said he received 2.5 million e-mails on his public account during his eight years as governor. “Jeb Bush learned plenty during his eight years as Florida governor, he told a crowd at a United Christian Giving fundraiser in Fort Myers on Thursday. The president’s little brother and former president’s son took few partisan shots, mostly entertaining the crowd with stories from ‘Mount Tallahassee.’ […] Bush said he got 550,000 e-mails on his private account and another 2.5 million on his public account during his eight years as governor. That helped him stay in touch with the people of the state even though the capital is far removed geographically from most of the population.” [Naples Daily News, 7/12/07]
Jeb Bush said he would release 250,000 emails

Jeb Bush said he would launch a website to make available about 250,000 e-mails from his time as governor. “Jeb Bush said he would launch a website on Tuesday on which he will make available about 250,000 emails from his time as governor of Florida, as well as the first chapter of an e-book about his administration. The emails, which were obtained by a number of news media organizations through a public records request in December, show Mr. Bush’s style in communicating with both his staff and his constituents.” [New York Times, 2/9/15]

Jeb Bush said he would release 250,000 emails from his two terms in office. “Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said on Sunday he will release 250,000 emails from his two terms in office and write an eBook outlining his governing philosophy. The moves have set the political sphere atwitter with speculation he’s closer than ever to deciding to run for president in 2016. In what appears to be a move of classic political procedure — getting ahead of the opposition — Bush told WPLG-TV that his intention is to promote transparency.” [CNN, 12/31/14]

PolitiFact: Jeb Bush self-edited which emails were posted on his website. “Bush in 2007 said that he had received 550,000 emails through the [email protected] address — plus another 2.5 million through his public email address — so obviously plenty were not included in the batch of about 250,000 that the Bush team posted in February. […] American Bridge said ‘Bush, not the State of Florida, decided which private emails to disclose.’ Bush did self-edit which emails were posted on a website he established in February, but the PAC doesn’t note one important point: State law allows him to do that. The statement is accurate but needs clarification or additional information. We rate it Mostly True.” [PolitiFact, 3/13/15]
Jeb Bush released emails that exposed Social Security numbers

Emails released by Jeb Bush included names, emails, and Social Security number of many Florida residents “leaving them vulnerable to identity thieves.” “A trove of 250,000 emails released by prospective 2016 presidential candidate Jeb Bush includes the sensitive personal information of several Florida residents, leaving them vulnerable to identity thieves. A scan of the email dump by technology blogs The Verge and Gizmodo revealed names, emails and in some cases, Social Security numbers of Bush’s correspondents. Many appear to be normal Florida residents unaware their messages to the then-governor would eventually become public.” [The Hill, 2/10/15]

Nearly 13,000 Social Security numbers were compromised in Jeb Bush’s email dump. “Todd Feinman, CEO of data protection firm Identity Finder, ran an analysis of the data and determined that nearly 13,000 unique social security numbers were released. His software, which uses natural language processing to identify sensitive information through contextual clues, found that about 12,500 of those were contained in a spreadsheet embedded in a PowerPoint slide attached to an email dated October 2003.” [Fortune, 2/13/15]

Jeb Bush’s email release was an “indiscriminate data dump being made for political reasons” and showed “a serious ignorance of the volume of sensitive information in the records and carelessness about their disclosure.” “Many posts were critical of Bush, who is expected to be a major contender for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016. ‘Even if most of these emails are subject to Sunshine Law disclosure, a public request for specific information is not the same as a huge, indiscriminate data dump being made for political reasons,’ wrote T.C. Sottek with The Verge, which first reported the presence of Social Security numbers in the trove. ‘At minimum, it shows a serious ignorance of the volume of sensitive information in the records and a carelessness about their disclosure — not a good look for someone who may want to sit in the White House,’ Sottek wrote.” [The Hill, 2/10/15]
Jeb Bush’s server housed sensitive information

Jeb Bush discussed “security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants” using email housed on his private server. “Jeb Bush used his private e-mail account as Florida governor to discuss security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants, according to a review of publicly released records. The e-mails include two series of exchanges involving details of Florida National Guard troop deployments after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the review by The Washington Post found. Aides to Bush said Saturday that none of the e-mails contained sensitive or classified information, and that many of the events mentioned in them were documented in press accounts, either contemporaneously or later. But security experts say private e-mail systems such as the one used by Bush are more vulnerable to hackers, and that details such as troop movements could be exploited by enemies.” [Washington Post, 3/14/15]

Jeb Bush housed emails containing “sensitive security issues” on his private server. “An unknown number of the e-mails housed on Bush’s server were redacted or withheld from public release because they contained sensitive security issues, Bush representatives have said. Communications director Tim Miller said general policy was for Bush to discuss sensitive National Guard issues in person with only occasional briefings by e-mail that ‘wouldn’t contain information that should not be in the public domain.’” [Washington Post, 3/14/15]

Jeb Bush, within two months of 9/11, “ordered the National Guard to pull its troops from protecting nuclear power plants in Florida, simply because the private corporations that operated the plants didn’t want the protection.” “‘In November 2001, Bush and an aide to then-Lt. Gov. Frank Brogan exchanged messages about the deployment of National Guard troops to a nuclear power plant in Crystal River, Fla. The aide wrote Bush that a state lawmaker had called to say she thought “it is imperative that the Crystal River nuclear facility have National Guard security.” Bush wrote back: “Florida power does not want it. We are reducing or getting rid of guard protection in the other plants.”‘ That last line, to me, is the real bombshell — that within two months of 9/11, Bush ordered the National Guard to pull its troops from protecting nuclear power plants in Florida, simply because the private corporations that operated the plants didn’t want the protection. I wonder if the people who lived near the plants wanted the protection.” [Salon, 8/14/15]
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