Black Lives Matter

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Black Lives Matter activists in Los Angeles would do well to note that the old guard’s approach has so far accomplished more reforms than has theirs, and that there is wisdom in conducting one’s political activism in a way that does not transgress against the rights of others to participate civically as they see fit. Whereas the old guard should remember that the accommodations it has reached with city officials and power brokers ought to be regularly probed and challenged by upstart reformers, lest inertia and myopia cause stagnation in the struggle to advance justice.

Both sides can disagree and even compete for power without rancor, knowing that power struggles like the one they’re engaged in need not derail the larger cause.

The 1960s civil-rights movement managed to succeed with competing factions of black activists (as well as white reformers) pursuing overlapping goals with wildly different tactics. I suspect that the push for policing reform would be strongest if Black Lives Matter progressives appeared to own the agenda no more and no less than black conservatives, Cato Institute libertarians, ACLU liberals, Clintonian opportunists, and humanist evangelicals. People with very different theories of politics, race in America, and responsible activism can and should look past their disagreements while cooperating to spread best-practices to law enforcement agencies nationwide.

Speaking as a longtime advocate of policing reform, I don’t care if you think that Black Lives Matter or All Lives Matter or All Black Lives Matter or Wrongful Death Lawsuits Are Too Expensive, or that Garcetti is to be shouted at or communed with, so long as you’re behind the push for body cameras, demilitarization, transparency in police departments, independent prosecutors to evaluate police killings, an end to “policing-for-profit” and other overdue reforms.

The reforms matter more than any power struggle among activists.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/blue-reforms-black-lives/412573/

This after a good long piece about how BLM punks want to raise hell, and dismiss older blacks who have been working all along on getting blacks a better deal. Highly recommended.

And **** YA!, We need all of those justice reforms plus a lot more. Do you know though what I notice about that list of urgently needed police reforms? Not ONE has anything to do with race. Can we please dispense with the bullshit? Can we please try to tackle some of these urgent problems without instantly getting bogged down in yet another round of black grievances?

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Missouri College Republicans Apologize For 'Terrorist Neckerchief' Protest Tweet

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ByASSOCIATED PRESSPublishedNovember 9, 2015, 3:47 PM EST 9400 views

COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) — A University of Missouri Republican student group is apologizing for a tweet likening students protesting the school's handling of racial issues with Islamic extremism.

The Mizzou College Republicans deleted the Monday morning tweet and said in a follow-up tweet that the post was "the opinion of one individual" and not "a reflection of our organization." The group didn't identify the person who sent the original tweet and didn't respond to requests for comment.

The deleted tweet included the caption "Seen today at #ConceredStudent1950," which was a misspelled reference to Concerned Student 1950, a black student group leading the protests. It showed a photo of scarf-wearing protesters and linked to an article with the headline "Muslim student supports new Holocaust" and a reference below to a "terrorist neckerchief."

Tweet (now deleted) from Mizzou College Republicans. pic.twitter.com/RBdZjinOxB

— Tom Kackley (@TomKackley) November 9, 2015

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@bobsal u1553115,

Let see on a public campus Melissa Click a assistant professor of mass media at the University of Missouri, try to recruit students to used force to removed a student reporter.

Seem not a lot of respected for freedoms now on that campus already.

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@BillRM,

Kind of out of proportion there, TonyRM. 400 years of oppression vs. one incident of rudeness to a dick reporter. You usually don't support the freedom of the press. Hypocrite.

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@bobsal u1553115,

bobsal u1553115 wrote:

"Seen today at #ConceredStudent1950," which was a misspelled reference to Concerned Student 1950,

Well it would be, BillRM's posts confirm how (in)articulate racists are.

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@bobsal u1553115,

With you most of the time, but the reporter was not being a dick, he was doing his job, the students were out of line and the professor was way, way out of line and should have known better.

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@engineer,

The bottom line we can agree on is no one from the fourth estate got a beat down, deserved or not.

I will admit I called the reporter a dick because I remember how 'enthusiastic' I was a student journalist. I got air suspended once for referring to the then Gov of Ohio as "Gov James 'Windy' Rhoades".

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@hawkeye10,

I don't understand your position on the University of Missouri story. You have a lot of posts talking about how the little people need to take back their lives from the "elites" who have long ago stopped doing what is best for the people and are only looking out for themselves. By just about all accounts, the situation at Missouri has been bad and getting worse for years. Wolfe (as elite has you can be) has completely ignored the situation and when the students (little people) confront him, he blames them. Then the little people put all their efforts together, enlist some less little people and finally toss the elite guy out. Doesn't this represent a win for your views that the collective efforts of the masses can shake up the hierarchy? Why isn't this a modern day Boston Tea Party? Isn't this a direct corollary to the rise of the Sanders left and the Trump right?

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@bobsal u1553115,

So you are using the excused of slavery for a professor trying to used force on a student reporter.

Hell we do not know if the student reporter is black himself for that matter.

Force is not ok even when it the legal used by a police officer, but is ok when a professor is using it illegally to block freedoms of the press and your logic is slavery?

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@engineer,

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professor was way, way out of line and should have known better.

She should be fired so let ask the football team to do so as they are the ones running that madhouse now.

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@engineer,

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By just about all accounts, the situation at Missouri has been bad and getting worse for years.

I dont know that there is a racism problem at this school. The administration has not been seen to be sensitive enough to claims of racism, and here too the claims seem weak. I think there is a perception of a racism problem but not a reality of a racism problem, but I also know that in politics there is a truth that perception is reality. This seems to be mostly about this school having as its president a guy who does not have the political chops to navigate the very difficult job of University President, and he should have been replaced, but the process should have been orderly. I also have a hostility to university athletics that goes all the way back to my time at Michigan State in the mid 80's, specifically that they are so powerful on campus, so I take some glee in football players deciding that they can dictate the politics on campus. I also have a hostility towards the NCAA which goes back to their clubbing of Penn St, and I take glee in what I believe is the fact that they have no answer to the students athletes taking even more power than they have till now. I dont think this has anything to do with the POTUS race.

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@engineer,

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the situation at Missouri has been bad and getting worse for years.

In what damn way had it been bad for years as I had not been able to find any details in the press other then some drunk saying bad and racial words to some blacks as he drove by and a Nazis flag no one have a clue of who put up.

So as the news media is not giving us any information beyond that and what actions should the president had taken in order to keep his job?

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@BillRM,

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So as the news media is not giving us any information beyond that and what actions should the president had taken in order to keep his job?

there has been very little effort from the " journalists" to document or even to report on assertions of racism at this school, but after looking for such all attempts that I have seen to paint a picture of ongoing significant racism at this school come off looking very weak. What we see is a lot of reporting about people who feel that the school has been racist, but this is backed up with almost nothing factual that even appears significantly racist. The "little people makin **** happen" storyline, that I am very sympathetic too, needed needed change to become operational. What I see here is a bunch of out of control brats raised on victim culture with a lot of mostly unjustified complaints driving school politics,

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@BillRM,

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Well the right wing have no better history in this nation with if black lists and witch hunts of communists in the 50s.

Senator McCarthy was right. The people who were blacklisted were these Feminazi/Black Lives Matter/anti-Semitic goons who, as we all can clearly see from their modern actions, will totally destroy society with their cultlike nonsense if they are not purged.

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@engineer,

http://www.stlpublicradio.org/programs/black-white/white-perception.php

http://www.historicjoplin.org/?cat=552

http://www.whitemansheaven.com/

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/lewis-diuguid/article43812849.html

http://emorywheel.com/st-louis-illustrates-history-of-racism/

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The St. Louis I know is not the one the nation thinks it knows. My town has a history of extreme race relations. This is not to justify its history, but to note that its complexities have been ignored.

St. Louis is more than the death of one; it is the product of the lives and deaths of many. St. Louis provides us with a history of race relations that sparks conversation about its development and manifestation across the nation’s history.

Alli Buettner is a College sophomore from St. Louis, Missouri.

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@BillRM,

Not at all, TonyRM, not at all. I'll give you "the slavery was one of best perks ever in a black person life" one as a freebie.

I'm talking about later. For example something you comment a lot on yourself: http://able2know.org/topic/252068-1

Remember that one?

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U.S. arrests white supremacists over plot to attack black churches, synagogues

AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) - U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation agents have arrested two white supremacists in Virginia who were planning to attack black churches and Jewish synagogues with guns and bombs, authorities said on Tuesday.

Convicted felons Robert Doyle, 34, and Ronald Chaney, 33, are facing charges for trying to purchase weapons from undercover FBI agents posing as illegal dealers, an arrest affidavit filed on Monday by an FBI agent said.

Lawyers for the men were not immediately available for comment.

The FBI received information that there would be a meeting at Doyle's residence in late September "to discuss acting out in furtherance of their extremist beliefs by shooting or bombing the occupants of black churches and Jewish synagogues," the affidavit reads.

They also plotted violence against "persons of the Jewish faith, and doing harm to a gun store owner in Oklahoma," it said.

About a month later, the two met an FBI undercover agent and placed an order for an automatic weapon, explosives and a pistol with a silencer. On Sunday, they tried to complete the sale and were arrested, the affidavit said.

(Reporting by Jon Herskovitz in Austin, Texas; Editing by Bill Rigby)

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@bobsal u1553115,

Perhaps we could have the two white supremacists and the two black panthers would be bombers sharing the same cell.

Hell we could have the U. of Missouri professor who try to have the student reporter removed and rough up teaching a in prison racial understanding course to those four gentlemen......LOL

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U.S. arrests white supremacists over plot to attack black churches, synagogues

AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) - U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation agents have arrested two white supremacists in Virginia who were planning to attack black churches and Jewish synagogues with guns and bombs, authorities said on Tuesday.

Convicted felons Robert Doyle, 34, and Ronald Chaney, 33, are facing charges for trying to purchase weapons from undercover FBI agents posing as illegal dealers, an arrest affidavit filed on Monday by an FBI agent said.

Lawyers for the men were not immediately available for comment.

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http://fox2now.com/2015/06/03/two-new-black-panther-party-members-plead-guilty-to-planning-bombing-after-ferguson-unrest/

ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI) – Two members of the New Black Panther Party pleaded guilty to planning a bombing spree following the Ferguson unrest.

Olajuwon Davis and Brandon Orlando Baldwin admit planning bomb attacks on Police Headquarters, prosecutor Bob Mcculloch and the Ferguson Police Chief, among others.

Davis and Baldwin were arrested as soon as they paid an undercover agent for pipe bombs. As part of their plea agreement each could face seven years in prison. Sentencing is August 31st.

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A History of Racism at the University of Missouri
BRENT STAPLES
NOVEMBER 10, 2015 11:26 AM

... Cynthia Frisby, a journalism professor, crystallized this history in the Missourian newspaper this week. In nearly 18 years at the university, she wrote, “I have been called the n-word too many times to count.” She recalled jogging along a road in May when a white man in a truck flying a Confederate flag stopped, spat at her, called out a racist slur and sped off ...

Racist mockery is something of a local sport. In 2010, two white students who scattered white cotton balls in front of the Black Culture Center during Black History Month were allowed to plead guilty to littering ...

Mr. Wolfe seemed not to grasp the nature of the problem and showed no aptitude for defusing it. His encounters with minority students were nothing short of disastrous ...

The new president can start by casting off euphemism and referring to the problem by its name. It’s not “race relations” or “racial insensitivity.” The malady that black people at Missouri have been describing for quite some time is racism.

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/a-history-of-racism-at-the-university-of-missouri/?_r=0

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@BillRM,

Gee, TonyRM, you aren't claiming that the racists were a mentally unstable as the MO bomber, are you?

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