Black Lives Matter

@Lash,

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They aren't gone, they are in the midst of a globally-renown movement that may win the presidency. Sound and fury changing the world.

Well the likely results of BLM is a somewhat higher homicide rate for blacks then it would otherwise been without BLM.

Not a good idea to reduce the ability of the police to police the poor inner city areas, while at the same time encouraging more physical attacks on law enforcement.

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@Lash,

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I bet if you read the book I'm reading now, your views about blacks will change.

BTW goddammit, for the sixth time (although I guess for you the first), the goddamn Occupy Wall Street movement is quite a power with the Bernie movement. They aren't gone, they are in the midst of a globally-renown movement that may win the presidency. Sound and fury changing the world.

Are you reading Coates? Just trying to grok Finn being enlightened by that. It's challenging my imagination.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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Perhaps, but like OWT, BLM is filled with young students intoxicated with their sense of righteousness and crippled by their lack of wisdom.

Also they were usually taught to put in hours for the betterment of their community. But you are right that they are way too stupid to direct their own actions, they need direct supervision from those who have some sense. And this is coming from a guy who deeply believes in the wisdom of cooperative effort. BLM strives to operate like a hive, where they dont even want to have central leadership or central policy making. Nice theory but when most of your membership are young, which means that dont yet have the life experience to know that their education was udder crap, you end up with those few who have some sense not having the pull to get the effort to a productive place. The theory of equality has limits, if we as a collective cant get the smart among us into leadership roles then we are done for. And with BLM we certainly see both that happening as well as the result. BLM should have been almost a sure thing, yet these fools figured out a way to **** it up.

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@Lash,

Ok, I'm uneducated and confused here. What is occupy wall street, and BLM bashed the hell out of sanders didn't they?

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@snood,

I think Coates' view explains why black culture seems so foreign to white people. I hated to put it down today. I want to give it to everyone.

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@Lash,

I just re-read the part in chapter 2 where he realizes that the Prince Georges police have killed someone he knows, and h8m trying to deal with it - and explain it to his son.

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@Lash,

Oh? What part o black "culture" is the book making excuses for and claiming falsely that it all due to slavery?

My favor claim is that the large percent of out of wedlock births is due to slavery ruining the black family when as late as the 1950s/1960s out of wedlock births was not all that common in the black community..

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@snood,

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I just re-read the part in chapter 2 where he realizes that the Prince Georges police have killed someone he knows, and h8m trying to deal with it - and explain it to his son.

Does he have any problem explaining the far far more common
happening of other black young men killings in the black community that have nothing to do with the police?

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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If painting every BLM member who calls for the murder of cops a "cop-killer" is lazy thinking, what is painting every cop as a racist?

I'm not. And if every freaking BLM supporter is, or even if a majority is, then yep, it's tarnished. But if a minority of assholes means an entire movement should be disregarded than we can **** off democracy, religion, charity, teachers, priests, anarchists, children, parents, and definitely A2K.

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There is no rationalizing calls for the death of cops.

Agreed, but that's a straw man. That's not what I'm arguing.

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And it's not at all just blowing off steam and political hyperbole since we've seen several cops executed since it started.

Several? We should start a police lives matter movement. Although the assholagentsia on A2K would probably revolt against that, because like some cops are black. And those bastards will be the one's coming to take our guns when Obama the muslim declares sharia law.

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@tony5732,

Jesus H. Christ do you read anything ? Of course it's colour thing. Although if you can find some other commonality between large numbers of folk killed unjustly by police I'm happy to take a look at it.

I doubt you'll read this but wtf

Earlier this week, Democratic presidential candidate Martin O’Malley got booed when, speaking at the Netroots Nation conference, he responded to a group of #BlackLivesMatter activists by telling them that “all lives matter.” He was later forced to apologize.

O’Malley isn’t the first person to fail to understand why “all lives matter” is a tone-deaf rallying cry for a national politician in 2015. Hillary Clinton did the same thing earlier this year, though she has since corrected herself. And lots of white people have expressed confusion about why it’s controversial to broaden the #BlackLivesMatter movement to include people of all races.

The best explanation we’ve seen so far comes from Reddit, of all places. Earlier this week, in an “Explain Like I’m 5” thread, user GeekAesthete explained, clearly and succinctly, why changing #BlackLivesMatter to #AllLivesMatter is an act of erasure that makes lots of people cringe.

GeekAesthete explains:

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Imagine that you’re sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don’t get any. So you say “I should get my fair share.” And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, “everyone should get their fair share.” Now, that’s a wonderful sentiment — indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad’s smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn’t solve the problem that you still haven’t gotten any!

The problem is that the statement “I should get my fair share” had an implicit “too” at the end: “I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else.” But your dad’s response treated your statement as though you meant “only I should get my fair share”, which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that “everyone should get their fair share,” while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.

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@hingehead,

It's like busting up a cancer walkathon, yelling at them for not addressing the Swine Flu.

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@hingehead,

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Several? We should start a police lives matter movement. Although the assholagentsia on A2K would probably revolt against that, because like some cops are black. And those bastards will be the one's coming to take our guns when Obama the muslim declares sharia law.

LOL what assholes are as racists on this site to anywhere near the degree that the BLM supporters happen to be?

I have zero problems myself with black cops or for that matter a black president that I voted for two times.

Supporters of BLM wish to paint a large percents of the nation cops as racists just looking for a reason to gun down blacks and when ever a non black cop need to used deadly force on a black person they should be assumed to had done so out of racial hate.

Oh the meal example in a recent posting is interesting as once more I remember a conversation with a black co-worker complaining about how Denny employees give him poor and slow service due to his race when I had have many times myself had have very poor service in Denny but sadly could not blame race for the reason.

If you look hard enough you will indeed fine racists even when none exist.

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@hingehead,

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Of course it's colour thing. Although if you can find some other commonality between large numbers of folk killed unjustly by police I'm happy to take a look at it.

When you find another community with anywhere near the homicide rate and criminal gangs rate of the black community that would tend to bring the black community members into must more conflict with the police then let me know.

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@BillRM,

When you understand what life is like for people walking around in black skin, you'll understand - and you might become part of the solution that puts an end to the status quo.

I have a book for you...

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@Lash,

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When you understand what life is like for people walking around in black skin, you'll understand - and might become part of the solution that puts an end to the status quo.

Yes life in the inner city can be hell for black men and women and children but not mainly for the reason of police misconduct but due to the high crime rate, high homicide rate and high criminal gangs rate in those communities.

It not due to the police that some families feel the need to sleep on the floor or fear when their children are assign to a school that would mean that they must cross two or more gangs territories to reach that school.

An once more BLM had done nothing to address those issues but instead are promoting more conflicts with the police by painting them as would be cold blooded killers of blacks

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@BillRM,

Bill, I agree that advocating murder of police is criminal all by itself. BLM doesn't advocate murder though. In every group, you have fringe elements who act in ways that hurt the group's reputation or message.

All men don't rape.

All Christians don't feel up their sisters and cheat on their wives.

All Republicans don't hate women and Mexicans.

All Southerners aren't racists.

All BLM members don't advocate the murder of cops.

All cops aren't gun-happy thugs.

You must abdicate your silly, simplistic thesis.

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@Lash,

Sorry but the fact that they are aiming all or almost all their efforts toward police officers when that is hardly the main reason for young black men not reaching adulthood and when there is a case of a police shooting/killing of a black citizen they as an organization assume that it is not a justifiable shooting before the investigation even begin, tell me all I need to know about them.

They do not in fact care about blacks lives or they would be acting in a totally different manner then they are.

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@hingehead,

Read it, not the problem. If the child at the dinner table is Black people, than BLM should understand that they got their share. If the father is Uncle Sam, the story goes more like imagining your dad says "If you kids don't do your chores you are going to get spanked". One kid doesn't do their chores, and than they get spanked. It's not a color thing because a lot of black people do their chores, actually a lot more do than don't, and they don't get spanked. I can go on and on about black people speaking out against BLM too if famous people saying stuff makes someone"reputable" but that really isn't the point. As far as O'Malley goes, he had the right idea but was a pansy about it. That's why Trump, as dumb as he may be, is gaining lots of support. He is not backing down from these silly racist groups and he doesn't owe anyone favors for funding his campaign. Hillary has been lost ground since that and I don't really know if O'Malley is a contender. Sanders is coming up though.

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@Lash,

BLM does though! If a BLM member throws bricks, steals stuff, burns property, etc, than BLM leadership remains supportive and says nothing and pretends it's ok.

Men will tell you rape is bad.
Priests will tell you feeling up sisters and cheating is bad.
Republicans will bash Republican at the mere thought of hatred towards women and Mexican, Trump.
Southerners say racism is bad.
And gun happy or racist cop thugs end up in jail or fired.

Where is Black Lives Matter leadership here?

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