izzythepush
 
  3  
Tue 26 Jul, 2016 12:40 pm
The right wing idiots can't deal with the truth, namely too many unarmed/innocent black people are being shot/killed/ unlawfully arrested by racist police. That's why BLM exists, in response to that.

Nobody has suggested that all police are racist, or denied that a lot of police do a damn good job above and beyond. Yet this is the lie, the false narrative that Curly, Larry and Mo are trying to impose upon this thread. And they can circle jerk as much as they want, but it won't change the fact that it's a lie.

They're so wired into dishonest, underhand tactics that they probably don't even know they're doing it. They'd much rather lie, about BLM, racist police, and ultimately themselves, than deal with reality.

The reality is they're not very nice people at all.
giujohn
 
  -2  
Tue 26 Jul, 2016 01:46 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

The right wing idiots can't deal with the truth, namely too many unarmed/innocent black people are being shot/killed/ unlawfully arrested by racist police. That's why BLM exists, in response to that.

Nobody has suggested that all police are racist, or denied that a lot of police do a damn good job above and beyond. Yet this is the lie, the false narrative that Curly, Larry and Mo are trying to impose upon this thread. And they can circle jerk as much as they want, but it won't change the fact that it's a lie.

They're so wired into dishonest, underhand tactics that they probably don't even know they're doing it. They'd much rather lie, about BLM, racist police, and ultimately themselves, than deal with reality.

The reality is they're not very nice people at all.

Do you see what this duplicitous idiot does... He doesn't believe for a minute that there are any good cops. On one hand he claims that the majority cops are good but on the other hand we're all liars when we try to defend cops. I defy this idiot to show anywhere that I or others who defend the good police have ever said that the police are never bad and that they're all good or where when a police officer deserved to be convicted we came to his defense and lied and he was good. Put up or shut up dumbass.
vikorr
 
  -1  
Tue 26 Jul, 2016 02:25 pm
@giujohn,
I've read of instances (and come across one person) with a borderline personality disorder, where they can see normal in most things...except for one abnormal filter. Anything that goes through that filter gets distorted. For example if the filter is 'the neighbours are out to get me', and a new person moves in and waves uncertainly (because the person with the filter is staring at them)...the uncertainty in that wave might hit the filter and become "He's talked to the other neighbours, and now he's out to get me too"

Perhaps a similar filter (but of course, along a different line) is why Izzy feels the need to constantly lie about other peoples positions (I'm referencing other threads here too). This particular behaviour is very far from normal, or rational behaviour.
giujohn
 
  -1  
Tue 26 Jul, 2016 02:27 pm
@vikorr,
A cogent analysis... As usual well stated
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Tue 26 Jul, 2016 02:43 pm
@giujohn,
There you go again.
giujohn
 
  0  
Tue 26 Jul, 2016 02:51 pm
@izzythepush,
Yes... There I go again
vikorr
 
  0  
Tue 26 Jul, 2016 03:01 pm
@giujohn,
One of the traits I've noticed in my discussions with Izzy is that he never discusses or challenges:
- the logic
- the principles
- the evidence
behind my opinions. He simply resorts to name calling, and lies about my position.

That is what I do (as can be seen in this thread), and it's what I ask of other people when they form their opinions: understand the reasoning and principles behind their opinions, and ensure the reasoning & principles are fair, and can be applied evenly. Most of my challenges in threads like this relate to such a stance.
giujohn
 
  0  
Tue 26 Jul, 2016 04:52 pm
@vikorr,
And I appreciate it.
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TheCobbler
 
  3  
Tue 26 Jul, 2016 07:42 pm
"If you don't have drugs in your ass, then you don't have anything to worry about."
https://www.facebook.com/policethepoliceACP/videos/vb.540176322666035/1420348624648796/?type=2&theater

I hate heroin and the illegal drug trade other than legal marijuana that I don't use anyway. I just wish I knew what gave the police here a reasonable precedent to search this man.

giujohn
 
  -1  
Tue 26 Jul, 2016 09:54 pm
@TheCobbler,
Well what we need to see is the affidavit for the warrant that convinced the judge to sign it.
TheCobbler
 
  4  
Tue 26 Jul, 2016 10:40 pm
@giujohn,
Apparently he let them search him voluntarily.

The website where I found this said don't voluntarily give them consent to search you.

It is not enough to be innocent these days. You get violated and the kitchen sink...

I hate heavy narcotics but I really don't see any other way. There was apparently reasonable doubt and it might have only taken a blood test to determine whether he was a user.

But some non users traffic in hard drugs. You think there would be a paper trail, income unaccounted for, bugged phone calls (a preponderance of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt) before they simply go to this extent, FOR NOTHING!
glitterbag
 
  4  
Tue 26 Jul, 2016 10:46 pm
@izzythepush,
Izzy, I see you are attracting the attention of a few 'folks', I have one on ignore and now I know who else I must put on ignore. Logically I know stupid is not catching but I think it's important to avoid the stupids in case their dullness lowers your expectations.
vikorr
 
  0  
Wed 27 Jul, 2016 12:10 am
@bobsal u1553115,
By the way bob, I meant to say earlier - the article on Michael Jordan's views was quite interesting, and very articulate.
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vikorr
 
  0  
Wed 27 Jul, 2016 01:13 am
@TheCobbler,
I watched the video. It starts off as a voluntary search, then the police obtain from a district judge a search warrant on his person - it's mentioned with 1:20 to go on that video. Surely the police officers would need to present fairly substantial evidence before a district judge would sign off on a cavity search (warrant).
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Wed 27 Jul, 2016 02:08 am
@glitterbag,
I'm not talking to them, well just the one idiot, but it's to point out the truth and mock them. It's just that their masturbatory self-congratulation got a bit nauseating, just like a lemon party.

I probably should put them on ignore, they've got nothing to bring to the table.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Wed 27 Jul, 2016 05:59 am
Jailers Handcuffed, Pepper-Sprayed, and Choked Inmate to Death
Source: Daily Beast

Jailers Handcuffed, Pepper-Sprayed, and Choked Inmate to Death

06.26.16 8:00 PM ET

http://funds.gfmcdn.com/10449033_1460429368.6333.jpg

Darius Robinson’s death inside a rural Oklahoma lockup has been ruled a homicide, but no one has been charged with killing him as the prosecutor sits on the tape.

Handcuffed and covered in pepper spray, Darius Robinson was strangled to death by a jailer at a rural Oklahoma county jail, the state’s medical examiner has found.

It was only when Robinson began foaming at the mouth that the Caddo County jailers sought medical treatment, but by then it was too late. The father of seven died that day in early April on the floor, while a camera above watched. District Attorney Jason Hicks is refusing to release video of Robinson getting the life choked out of him, even to his own family, citing an ongoing investigation into the his death.

. . .

An autopsy report released last week revealed that Robinson died of “asphyxiation due to manual neck compression” and ruled it a homicide. Law enforcement has refused to release reports related to the incident, citing their interpretation of the state’s open records laws, but The Daily Beast has obtained some records from private sources, including the names of the correctional officers involved in Robinson’s killing.


Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/26/jailers-handcuffed-pepper-sprayed-and-choked-inmate-to-death.html
izzythepush
 
  1  
Wed 27 Jul, 2016 06:38 am
@bobsal u1553115,
You can see why Vikorr bends over backwards to support racist police when you find what's going on where he is.

Quote:
A teenager who has become the face of a juvenile detention scandal has thanked Australians for their support.

Images of Dylan Voller cuffed to a mechanical restraint chair drew widespread condemnation after they were aired on television.

The Australian Broadcasting Corp.'s Four Corners programme this week showed footage of teenage offenders stripped naked, assaulted and tear gassed at the Northern Territory's Don Dale Youth Detention Centre.

Youth detention rates are three times higher in the Northern Territory than elsewhere in Australia, according to the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare.

Although the institute does not break down Indigenous youth incarceration rates specifically for the Northern Territory, young Indigenous people across Australia are 26 times more likely to be in detention than non-Indigenous youth.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-36880864
revelette2
 
  1  
Wed 27 Jul, 2016 08:29 am
Bill O'Reilly's jaw-dropping response to Michelle Obama

Quote:
Too bad they were still slaves.

A day after Michelle Obama proved progress is possible by speaking about her historical legacy as the first black first lady "living in a house built by slaves," Bill O’Reilly decided to give a positive spin on slavery itself.

"Slaves that worked there were well-fed and had decent lodgings provided by the government, which stopped hiring slave labor in 1802," O’Reilly said on the latest edition of the The O’Reilly Factor Tuesday night. "However, the feds did not forbid subcontractors from using slave labor. So Michelle Obama is essentially correct in citing slaves as builders of the White House, but there were others working as well."

O’Reilly is right that slaves weren’t the only ones who built the White House. Technically, enslaved black people were joined by free black people and local white laborers. But black people, many of them slaves, did the bulk of the heavy lifting and digging.

This reluctance to view slavery, or the tokens we carry through history that were created as a benefit of slavery, as horrific or difficult has been a long journey for most Americans. Only recently are popular representations of slavery appropriately brutal and representative of the reality of the practice.
giujohn
 
  0  
Wed 27 Jul, 2016 08:37 am
@izzythepush,
Wow Vikorr... so it's you that's responsible for all the bad police officers in all of Australia? What are we going to do with you.
revelette2
 
  1  
Wed 27 Jul, 2016 08:37 am
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