BillRM
 
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Mon 25 Apr, 2016 06:22 am
@bobsal u1553115,
So the bill of rights demand that after you placed yourself at risk by your own actions that they must risk their lives to save you.

Somehow I never read such a statement or concept in that document.
BillRM
 
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Mon 25 Apr, 2016 06:42 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Number one the courts in civil suits had rule more then once that the police had no duty to try to aid you even if your are a completely innocent person being beaten in a riot for example.

Protect and serve is indeed a motto not the law.

As far a bystander rendering aid laws are concern in the few states where they exist the laws made it clear that no actions that could place you in harm way is demanded of you. In most states the bystanders laws do not exist.

Now as far as the law not calling for a death penalty for car stealing that is true indeed by human law but mother nature laws are not as forgiving if you placed yourself in a sinking car for example.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Mon 25 Apr, 2016 06:43 am
@BillRM,
Thats why the cops have all that groovy gear, high pay and benefits, and a radio in their car to call for the fire and rescue, deputy sheriffs or someone else not afraid of muddy water after dark.

So you think the reason they put "To Protect and Serve" on their cars is to make a black and white look cool.

To put it into perspective:

http://gawker.com/5722140/cops-dive-into-frigid-waters-to-save-drowning-dog

Cops Dive into Frigid Waters to Save Drowning Dog
Max Read

A Baltimore cop with the city's Marine Unit dove into freezing cold waters in order to save a drowning dog. Not just any cop, either—this one is a cat person.

Isn't it nice to ring in the New Year with a story about good cops that has a happy ending? We can get back to the depressing stuff tomorrow.

[CBS Baltimore via Fark]
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Hero Police Officer Risks His Life To Save A Drowning Mama Dog!
By Ginger Divine

http://www.littlethings.com/police-officer-rescues-drowning-mama-dog/

An Aransas Pass, Texas police officer is being called a hero after his risked his life in order to save a drowning mama dog! The unbelievable rescue was all caught on camera by his supervisor who first thought the officer was taking a dip in the harbor. As his boss went to investigate the matter, he quickly realized this case of night swimming on the job was actually a matter of life or death for the poor dog.

According to news outlets, Officer Nick Harwood earlier in the evening had stopped to pet two stray dogs in the area of the Conn-Brown Harbor, when he returned around 3 a.m. he noticed that one of the strays was pacing back in forth near the edge of the water. It was then he realized that it was trying to save the other dog that had fallen into the water. Without missing a beat, Harwood stripped down to his underwear and jumped in.

What an amazing and heroic moment! Thank you Officers Harwood and emergency responders everywhere for all the amazing and heroic work that you do.

Enjoy and please SHARE this amazing video with your friends and family.



Compassionate Cop Saves Service Dog Belonging To Girl Who Has Cerebral Palsy
10/13/2014 02:44 pm ET | Updated Oct 14, 2014
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/13/cop-saves-service-dog-pays-for-vet-bill_n_5966298.html

Alena Hall
Associate Third Metric Editor, The Huffington Post

The bond between this little girl with special needs and her service dog is incredibly special.

Faith Cloud of Pierce County, Washington, has cerebral palsy and is unable to communicate verbally. Sometimes the only way her mother, Tonya Cloud, can calm her down when she’s upset is to have her play with her dog, Spice, reported KIRO 7.

On Oct. 3, Spice was hit by a car and left with a broken leg and multiple pelvic fractures when the driver fled the scene. Pierce County detective Ryan Salmon noticed a crowd gathering at the scene of the accident, and zeroed in on Faith in her wheelchair next to her injured dog on the ground, according to KIRO 7.

In that moment, Salmon took Spice, Faith, her mother and a friend to the nearby hospital to address the dog’s wounds. When he heard later that the family could not afford the X-rays and treatment for Spice’s recovery, he offered to pay the $200 bill for them. Tonya Cloud was grateful for his help, because she feared the dog would have had to be euthanized otherwise, and Spice meant so much to her family.

“It wasn’t about being a cop,” Salmon told KIRO 7. “It was about having compassion for this girl and her dog.” He and his department are still searching for the suspect.

It’s reassuring to see instances where law enforcement doesn’t just protect us, but our beloved pets as well.

Last summer a 59-year-old woman in Carver, Massachusetts, called on the local police for help when she submerged her truck in more than 8 feet of water. One of her dogs was able to escape, but the other was trapped inside until Officer David Harriman arrived. An dog lover himself, the officer didn’t hesitate to jump into the water, retrieve the dog and return him safely to the woman, WCVB reported. Harriman, too, recognized that he wasn’t just a dog — he was family.


Boston Firefighter Risks Life to Save Husky from Icy Death

01/09/2014 Posted by Melanie 35 Comments

http://www.lifewithdogs.tv/2014/01/boston-firefighter-risks-life-to-save-husky-from-icy-death/

It’s winter, and sadly there are too many stories of dogs succumbing to the dangerously low temperatures either through mishap or owner neglect. But and while these stories can oftentimes be too much to bear, it is always worth bringing to light a hero that has saved the life of one of our companions.

Boston firefighter Sean Coyle came to the rescue this morning when he pulled a 13-year-old husky named Sylvie from the brink of death after she fell into 20-degree water.

Sylvie and her owner had been walking along the Boston Harbor when she plunged through the ice near Castle Island. Her owner immediately called 911, and seven-year veteran of Ladder 19 answered the call.

Coyle, wearing a survival suit, slid out on the ice in a stokes basket.

“As I got closer, I could see the ice was encapsulating him,” Coyle said. “He was frozen and real scared, I’d say he had less than half an hour left.”

A human wouldn’t have lasted more than 10 minutes. Sylvie had already been treading the 20-degree water for half an hour.

Coyle’s outstretched arm was met by a receptive Sylvie, ever so grateful to have her rescuer’s help. He managed to pull her from the icy water, but needed a rescue for himself when he fell in. He had been judiciously attached to a rope, and was able to be pulled to shore by fellow firefighters.

Both he and Sylvie were gradually warmed up and recovered.

This was the second time Coyle had saved a dog from the water. His first rescue was of a dog stuck below the rocks on Pleasure Bay. He says a life is a life, be it two- or four-legged.

“We look at the pets like citizens*,” he said. “They’re loved by their owners and we want to make sure, whether it’s in a burning building or a freezing lake, we just want to get them out safe.”

* White citizens

Of course none of those dogs were black, or were owned by a black citizen.

I hope the courts threw the book at all those thoughtless cops.
BillRM
 
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Mon 25 Apr, 2016 06:53 am
@bobsal u1553115,

Quote:


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect-someone.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON, June 27 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.

The decision, with an opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia and dissents from Justices John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, overturned a ruling by a federal appeals court in Colorado. The appeals court had permitted a lawsuit to proceed against a Colorado town, Castle Rock, for the failure of the police to respond to a woman's pleas for help after her estranged husband violated a protective order by kidnapping their three young daughters, whom he eventually killed.

For hours on the night of June 22, 1999, Jessica Gonzales tried to get the Castle Rock police to find and arrest her estranged husband, Simon Gonzales, who was under a court order to stay 100 yards away from the house. He had taken the children, ages 7, 9 and 10, as they played outside, and he later called his wife to tell her that he had the girls at an amusement park in Denver.

Ms. Gonzales conveyed the information to the police, but they failed to act before Mr. Gonzales arrived at the police station hours later, firing a gun, with the bodies of the girls in the back of his truck. The police killed him at the scene.

The theory of the lawsuit Ms. Gonzales filed in federal district court in Denver was that Colorado law had given her an enforceable right to protection by instructing the police, on the court order, that "you shall arrest" or issue a warrant for the arrest of a violator. She argued that the order gave her a "property interest" within the meaning of the 14th Amendment's due process guarantee, which prohibits the deprivation of property without due process.

The district court and a panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit dismissed the suit, but the full appeals court reinstated it and the town appealed. The Supreme Court's precedents made the appellate ruling a challenging one for Ms. Gonzales and her lawyers to sustain.

A 1989 decision, DeShaney v. Winnebago County, held that the failure by county social service workers to protect a young boy from a beating by his father did not breach any substantive constitutional duty. By framing her case as one of process rather than substance, Ms. Gonzales and her lawyers hoped to find a way around that precedent.

But the majority on Monday saw little difference between the earlier case and this one, Castle Rock v. Gonzales, No. 04-278. Ms. Gonzales did not have a "property interest" in enforcing the restraining order, Justice Scalia said, adding that "such a right would not, of course, resemble any traditional conception of property."

Although the protective order did mandate an arrest, or an arrest warrant, in so many words, Justice Scalia said, "a well-established tradition of police discretion has long coexisted with apparently mandatory arrest statutes."

But Justices Stevens and Ginsburg, in their dissenting opinion, said "it is clear that the elimination of police discretion was integral to Colorado and its fellow states' solution to the problem of underenforcement in domestic violence cases." Colorado was one of two dozen states that, in response to increased attention to the problem of domestic violence during the 1990's, made arrest mandatory for violating protective orders.

"The court fails to come to terms with the wave of domestic violence statutes that provides the crucial context for understanding Colorado's law," the dissenting justices said.

Organizations concerned with domestic violence had watched the case closely and expressed disappointment at the outcome. Fernando LaGuarda, counsel for the National Network to End Domestic Violence, said in a statement that Congress and the states should now act to give greater protection.

In another ruling on Monday, the court rebuked the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, in Cincinnati, for having reopened a death penalty appeal, on the basis of newly discovered evidence, after the ruling had become final.

The 5-to-4 decision, Bell v. Thompson, No. 04-514, came in response to an appeal by the State of Tennessee after the Sixth Circuit removed a convicted murderer, Gregory Thompson, from the state's death row.

After his conviction and the failure of his appeals in state court, Mr. Thompson, with new lawyers, had gone to federal district court seeking a writ of habeas corpus on the ground that his initial lawyers had been constitutionally inadequate. The new lawyers obtained a consultation with a psychologist, who diagnosed Mr. Thompson as schizophrenic.

But the psychologist's report was not included in the file of the habeas corpus petition in district court, which denied the petition. It was not until the Sixth Circuit and then the Supreme Court had also denied his petition, making the case final, that the Sixth Circuit reopened the case, finding that the report was crucial evidence that should have been considered.

In overturning that ruling in an opinion by Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, the majority said the appeals court had abused its discretion in an "extraordinary departure from standard appellate procedures." Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Sandra Day O'Connor joined the opinion.

In a dissenting opinion, Justice Stephen G. Breyer said the majority had relied on rules to the exclusion of justice. Judges need a "degree of discretion, thereby providing oil for the rule-based gears," he said. Justices Stevens, Ginsburg and David H. Souter joined the dissent.

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BillRM
 
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Mon 25 Apr, 2016 06:57 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I can and anyone else can including a police officer decide to risk their lives to save a person or even a pet but that does not mean that a person have a duty to do so.
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BillRM
 
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Mon 25 Apr, 2016 07:09 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Of course none of those dogs were black, or were owned by a black citizen.

I hope the courts threw the book at all those thoughtless cops.


There is no book to throw at the cops anymore then there was a book to throw when the police refused to enter a riot area to help a white man being beaten after being drag out of his truck and as seen on national TV by way of a overhead helicopter.
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BillRM
 
  0  
Mon 25 Apr, 2016 07:58 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Oh by the way there was no book to throw at the police when at columbine high school the police did not go into the school but instead surround it while the children was being killed inside.
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BillRM
 
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Mon 25 Apr, 2016 08:07 am
@BillRM,
You know censoring postings that contain opinions is bad enough but a posting that only repeat only contain a SC ruling!!!!!!!

Maybe it magical thinking that if we do not think of rulings by the court that we disagree with they will go away.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Mon 25 Apr, 2016 02:32 pm
@BillRM,
Bill that and the last one was so freaking bogus. Pretend you have a daughter. Pretend she is being raped at gun point. Pretend the cops are waiting for the dangerous armed rapist to finish so as to not endanger themselves before they can take a report from your pretend daughter and give her a ticket for public indecency since after all the rape is only alleged and she is naked after all.

Enjoy your new pretend grandson.

You're a putz, Bill. Back into ignore with you.
BillRM
 
  0  
Mon 25 Apr, 2016 02:40 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Pretend that my daughter is driving home either from work or school when three losers in a stolen car ran into her at 90 mph while running from the police.

Just can not understand why I do not feel more outrage that the police did not risk their lives to save those girls so they could do more high speed runs from the police in other people cars.

Oh if your pretend rapists had dark skins of course by your light and logic any actions by the police to interfere and arrest them would be only due to racism of the police and of course my daughter should be charge with framing them.

Even if this daughter had a black mother that would not protect her as Zimmerman also was of mixed blood yet it would seems that he killed Trayvon due to him being a racist.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 25 Apr, 2016 04:02 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Thumb's up for you, bobsal. However, I thought Bill had great imagination, but your pretend daughter story comes right to the point.
BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 25 Apr, 2016 04:41 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I think my reply was even more to the point.

Soon the police will need to turn away from any crime that a black person might be doing.

When blacks was first allow to become cops they was not allow to arrest whites in Miami at least now it seems that soon white cops will not be allow to arrest blacks.
BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 25 Apr, 2016 05:00 pm
@BillRM,

I can see the day soon when white cops will not be allowed to arrest blacks.

Quote:

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article58801318.html

On a dare, he recalls, McKay joined the Miami police department in 1954 and was thrown on the streets with no real training. Mostly, he was not allowed to arrest whites. When McKay finally worked as an investigator alongside his white counterparts, they refused to call him “detective.”
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Mon 25 Apr, 2016 09:07 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Thanks. Bill is such a twit.
BillRM
 
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Mon 25 Apr, 2016 10:34 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Such a comment from two people who care so little about black citizens that they for their own reasons will not even admit that there is a homicide problem for young black men that is so damn bad that it is cutting the average lifespan for black males by a year all by itself.

Quote:


http://www.nbcnews.com/health/homicide-directly-affecting-racial-gap-u-s-life-expectancy-study-6C10671973

“We expected heart disease and cancer, those are still the main focus, but what’s interesting is when you look at the graph for males, you see how important homicide is for directly affecting life expectancy for African-Americans,” says Kenneth D. Kochanek, lead author of the report and statistician with the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics.

For black males, homicide decreased life expectancy by almost a year. Heart disease was the most significant cause of death affecting the disparity in life expectancy, but for black males, homicide was number two -- ahead of cancer and stroke.

“We have to look at [violence and homicide] like a disease,” says Dr. Robert Gore, emergency medical physician at Kings County-SUNY Downstate Hospitals and executive director of KAVI -- the Kings Against Violence Initiative in Brooklyn. “There are over 700,000 reported violent acts per year involving U.S. youth presenting to our hospitals. We have to stop looking at violence as a purely social problem.”

The majority of homicides involve youth and young adults between the ages of 10 and 24. In fact, it’s the number one cause of death among black males in this age group. And despite making up just 13 percent of the population, the FBI reports that half of the homicide victims in 2011 were black.

But now, this new CDC data illustrates just how striking those numbers are -- dramatic enough to affect the overall life expectancy for all black men, across all ages. Even more reason, Gore says, that the medical community needs to intervene.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 25 Apr, 2016 10:44 pm
@BillRM,
You'll never 'get it.' There are already rules and regulations for the police, and they are color blind.
Where did you get your education? Demand your money back, because you were cheated. Your comprehension skills and English grammar are lousy.
BillRM
 
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Tue 26 Apr, 2016 06:09 am
@cicerone imposter,
I get it as making the police and police misconducted the main focus of of the problems in the black communities instead of the out of control crime and homicide rate inside the communities that is destroying a large percent of the the next generation of young black males is not helpful.

In fact the picturing the majority of white police as racists and killers is not only the worst thing you could do for the young black males but it is almost a completely false picture.

Too bad that the million men movement faded away and had been replaced with the hate the police and whites as a class of the BLM movement.
BillRM
 
  1  
Tue 26 Apr, 2016 07:47 am
@BillRM,
I get it as making the police and police misconducted the main focus of of the problems in the black communities instead of the out of control crime and homicide rate inside the communities that is destroying a large percent of the the next generation of young black males is not helpful.

In fact the picturing the majority of white police as racists and killers is not only the worst thing you could do for the young black males but it is almost a completely false picture.

Too bad that the million men movement faded away and had been replaced with the hate the police and whites as a class of the BLM movement.
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BillRM
 
  0  
Tue 26 Apr, 2016 08:23 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Where did you get your education? Demand your money back, because you were cheated. Your comprehension skills and English grammar are lousy.


An this is from a man who by his own words had read around 20 books in his long life time and who hold a four year business degree.

No wonder he seems to know little to no history and can not understand the simplest mathematical concepts.
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BillRM
 
  -1  
Tue 26 Apr, 2016 08:37 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:


Heinlein – Specialization is for Insects


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.


Somehow CI you seems nearer to the insect scale of life forms then I am.
 

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