The Case For Biden

Some people are bug f*** crazy.

I don't why you would do anything. Biden is your focus because he is the current democrat front runner. If it was Harris, she would be your focus. Probably focus on her prosecutor/lawyer career in some kind of negative way. Bernie gets a mention here and there.

Biden is being called the least environmentalist Democratic candidate. He has also been criticized for not being feminist enough.

In short, he seems to be being packaged to sell to potential swing voters who dislike environmentalism and feminism, yet might go for a more Democrat New Deal type socialist economy.

In other words, the Democrats are just showcasing all their salespeople for their structuralist political-economic program.

You get to pick your salesman, as long as you buy the car they're going to give you once you do.

Ultimately it doesn't matter which Democrat you vote for because they are all ultimately just salespeople for the party.

You might not even get the one you choose, because after the primaries, the losers will all endorse the winner in order to corral all the diversity into unified support for a single candidate.

Then, they will motivate you to vote by insisting that their candidate is more likely to enact ideas your candidate supported than Trump.

So it will be a big anti-Trump election regardless in the end.

Ultimately, though, you may realize you can achieve more climate reform, sustainability, and economic security by having the GOP in office than Democrats, because all the Democrats do is pump the economy full of money and then pretend to reform it without actually upsetting their donors with meaningful changes that solve problems by stopping the consumer/business practices that cause them to begin with.

I believe the dilemma here is that none of the 20 plus declared Democrat candidates has yet been able to break through the Bernie Sanders ratings barrier, and, despite all the enthusiasm he created in the last campaign and the ascent of many other Democrat candidates imitating and endorsing his socialist and progressive message, most Democrat leaders do not consider Sanders to be a winning candidate - i.e. one who can go beyond the 25 (or so ) percent he got the last time around. If in the ensuing months several of these new candidates do pass through the "Bernie Barrier" , we will then likely see a battle within the Party over its new political platform and an effort to synthesize this into a platform & candidate they believe can win.

Overall that appears to be an uncertain process and I believe the Biden candidacy is at this point an insurance policy in case that scenario doesn't occur.

Actually...

Biden is consistently beating Sanders in polls and approval ratings.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/democratic_nomination_polls/

A big part of this is because although there has been a sudden heavy influx of progressives, the majority of people are still more towards the center.

Similar in some ways to the Tea Party over on the right, it's too extreme for most.

The cheating pollsters only call aging conservatives on their dusty landlines. Bernie is demolishing Biden. Biden’s crowds look like a nursing home parlor on Sunday afternoon.

Even though what you say about Bernie here is a brainless lie, you’re right that I’m going to point out why each of the other candidates either can’t be trusted to do what they say or what it is about them that makes them a Republican—whichever’s true.

Bank it.

But none of the other "progressive" Democrat candidates are doing so and that was the point of my post.

You seem to be confusing the word "Democrat" and the word "Progressive" then. These two words are not synonymous, they mean different things.

Biden is the clear front runner for the Democrats. Sanders may be the front-runner for the progressives... but Biden is still beating him pretty handily for the Democratic nomination.

There are significantly more people who identify as Democrats than who identify as "progressive". This is something that anyone who wants to defeat Trump in 2020 had best keep in mind.

You missed the point of my post entirely. I wasn't advocating for or against any of the Democrat candidates. Instead I was outlining my impression of the strategic problem the Democrats face in the coming primary.

Overall my impression is that Biden will be a weak candidate, his current popularity in Democrat polls notwithstanding.

They are admitting the truth now:

“Biden's strategy is to methodically win over white, working class, midwestern voters who have voted for Republicans in recent years, making Ohio a more strategic target than California. He will be speaking at a Human Rights Council dinner in Columbus Saturday.”

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-democratic-convention-2020-hopefuls-today-2019-06-01/

Ohio is conservative—where Biden resonates.

Who hasn't been admitting the truth?

If the Democrats are going to win in 2020, the need to win over White, working class midwestern voters. That has always been clear to anyone who knows anything about Politics.

Obama understood this. The only person who couldn't admit this truth was Hillary Clinton. And we all know how that worked out.

Democrats are Republicans now.

It would be really interesting for Biden and Trump to compete for what H Clinton called 'the deplorables.' I always found it interesting that Trump was appealing to a job-protectionist, working class interested in reversing the out-sourcing trend of jobs to offshore production sites, which was traditionally a union/Democrat issue that Republicans rejected as being something that would hurt trade and thus the economy overall.

Now that the Democrats have taken over the old Republican view that trade protectionism is bad, it will be interesting to see Biden try to win back Trump-supporting workers. Probably he will use some kind of Bill Clinton-esque pitch that free trade boosts the economy and 'a rising tide lifts all boats.' Interestingly, B Clinton was viewed as a more Republican-like Democrat than was expected from Democrats at the time (as I remember it, anyway).

The question is what economic approach will Biden pitch to counter Trump's? Will he have a plan for ending tariffs and re-establishing good faith with trading partners that have begun dealing with greater economic uncertainties and the prospect of fluctuating tariffs?

How will Biden propose to repair relations and faith from trading partners globally? He will more than likely have to offer big concessions and incentives to win global trust back, and many voters may not like the idea of the US apologizing and begging its way back into favor with people who turned on the US because of Trump. And those that do may not see Biden as a person who can pull off such diplomatic magic as president.

If he remains the front-runner, it will be interesting to see how his character development as a candidate continues and what kind of economic and trade visions he will paint for voters to support or reject.

You continually incorrectly attribute to me.
Lash did NOT say this.

Sorry, I just hit the "quote" button when responding.

It should say, "Lash quoted . . . "

Thank you.

So pursuing white, working class voters in conservative midwestern states in the Democratic primary is a revealingly suspicious strategy now?

Huh.

I should’ve given more context.

I’m referencing Biden’s claim that he has the most progressive record in the race.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/03/17/joe_biden_i_get_criticizd_by_the_new_left_but_i_have_the_most_progressive_record_of_anybody_running.html

Former Vice President Joe Biden accidentally said that he will be the most progressive candidate running for president in 2020 during a speech Saturday to a gathering of Delaware Democrats.

"I'm told I get criticized by the New Left," Biden said. "I have the most progressive record of anybody running for the ... anybody who would run."

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The truth is he is avoiding confronting California liberals and feels much more at ease making inroads with Republicans in conservative states. You do make a point that trying for them is better than ignoring them—as Hillary did in 2016, but his ridiculous statement about being progressive is a straight lie.