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The Case For Biden

 
 
hightor
 
  4  
Wed 17 Feb, 2021 08:32 pm
@Builder,
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What I'm seeing here, is that everything that was wrong last year, was Trump's fault, but nothing that's going wrong this year, is Biden's fault.

Be patient, FFS, he's hardly been in office a month.

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Power cuts in southern states due to "freak weather events" despite Biden's predictions of same, somehow not creepy Joe's responsibility at all.


Correct!

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/02/16/us/winter-storm-map-promo-1613495198795/winter-storm-map-promo-1613495198795-articleLarge-v5.jpg

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Predicted food shortages next, but food packages only available to those who bend over and take the experimental jabs without question? Seems legit.


^ I think we all get a chuckle out of this obviously satirical comment. It starts out with the standard dystopian "scarcity" trope but note how quickly the imagery deteriorates into "those who bend over(?)" — to take a jab in the shoulder?? Okay??? This is tinfoil hat territory.

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Let's just freeze the crap out of people, so they feel grateful when we turn the power back on, shall we?


We already covered that:

"About 90 percent of Texas’s grid is part of the Electric Reliability Council of Texas. Save for a few lines, ERCOT is largely cut off from power in neighboring states. That’s because back in 1935, the state government was eager to avoid being regulated under the Federal Power Act. The Federal Power Act was passed to regulate interstate electricity sales, in the wake of massive scandals involving utility holding companies. It established what’s known today as the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. To this day, Texas exists outside of FERC’s jurisdiction."

It's an actual weather event.

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I get quite a giggle out of this place, despite most of the interesting folk having already left the place.


I'm sure I'm not the only dullard here who finds you an endless source of merriment.


snood
 
  2  
Wed 17 Feb, 2021 08:34 pm
@hightor,
He’s an endless source of something, that’s for sure.
glitterbag
 
  3  
Wed 17 Feb, 2021 11:53 pm
@snood,
I think he believes he's somewhat of a provocateur hahahahahahahahahahhaahaaaahahahahahhaa
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Builder
 
  -3  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 12:16 am
@oralloy,
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Because Mr. Trump never did anything wrong.


It turns out, it was because the dems actually did much, much, much worse than their President ever did, in inciting division, violence, destruction, and hatred. And they knew it.
snood
 
  5  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 12:29 am
In four years, their guy lost both sides of Congress and the presidency, botched the federal response to a worldwide pandemic, coddled despots and white supremacists, was impeached twice, incited a deadly insurrection, lied daily and played golf on about a fifth of his total days in office.

And he’s not personally responsible for any of that.

On the other hand,
Biden’s been in office for six weeks and they’re trying to blame him for a goddamn blizzard.

They have created and occupy an alternative reality.
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MontereyJack
 
  4  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 01:02 am
@Builder,
for reasons that I have not seen stated, all TX power plants, whether fossil fuel or nuke are reportedly performing well under par, according to news re;ports. Those are state controlled, privately owned, not biden's bailiwick.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 01:03 am
@Builder,
you really have a powerful imagination. grip on reality, not so much.
Builder
 
  -3  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 01:12 am
@MontereyJack,
I know you're not a young fella, so I'll refresh your memory.

Builder
 
  -3  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 01:36 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Those are state controlled, privately owned, not biden's bailiwick.


Same with covid response. Trump could not tell the governors of any state in the US of A what they should do about the virus.
hightor
 
  5  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 03:29 am
@Builder,
Not the same thing. At all.

Trump chose not to put a nation-wide strategy into place. While he couldn't order a nationwide mask policy, for instance, he could have encouraged governors to implement mask and social distancing, instead of mocking public health concerns, trying to "keep the numbers low" by discouraging testing, and forcing cash-strapped states to bid against each other and the federal government for PPE and other supplies. There's also lots he could have done through FEMA and better coordination with the CDC.
hightor
 
  3  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 03:31 am
@Builder,
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I know you're not a young fella, so I'll refresh your memory.

Apparently you forgot that Hillary Clinton conceded.
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hightor
 
  3  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 04:15 am
@oralloy,
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Because Mr. Trump never did anything wrong.

Um, strong-arming an ally to supply evidence which might incriminate or embarrass a domestic political opponent in exchange for promised military aid is surely wrong.

Allowing a mob of your supporters to invade and vandalize the Capitol and doing nothing in your considerable power to stop this insurrection is surely wrong. He managed to clear Lafayette Square pretty thoroughly so he could get his photo-op with a bible. He care more about his image than he ever did about the government or the country.
hightor
 
  6  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 04:25 am
@Builder,
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He couldn't dictate policy states-wide.

That's exactly what he could have done — come up with a national response and announce it to the country as a whole, instead of a state-by-state "you guys figure it out on your own" laissez-faire approach. This was all documented in real time:
Hear, see, speak no COVID: Why the Trump administration is bungling the response to the pandemic

oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 04:29 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Um, strong-arming an ally to supply evidence which might incriminate or embarrass a domestic political opponent in exchange for promised military aid is surely wrong.

It's not. Progressives like to think that they are above the law, but investigating their criminal activity is actually a good thing.


hightor wrote:
Allowing a mob of your supporters to invade and vandalize the Capitol and doing nothing in your considerable power to stop this insurrection is surely wrong.

I know progressives can't stand people who stand up to their bullying, but a peaceful protest is not an insurrection.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 07:56 am
@oralloy,
Calling the capitol hill violent riot insurrection a peaceful protest is skimply ludicrous. but of course it's an oralloy post. so absurdity is to be expected.
revelette3
 
  3  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 09:19 am
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Live Updates: Biden’s Immigration Plan to Be Introduced in House

The proposal offers an eight-year path to citizenship for most of the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the United States, eliminates restrictions on family-based immigration and expands worker visas.

President Biden’s allies on Capitol Hill plan to formally introduce his immigration overhaul in the House on Thursday morning, making good on his campaign promise to seek to modernize the nation’s immigration system and provide a path to citizenship for millions of undocumented Americans.

The unveiling puts a spotlight on a high-profile and thorny political issue that Mr. Biden is hoping to address, despite the steep political challenges associated with moving immigration legislation in Congress.

It comes at a time when the president and Democratic lawmakers are already in the midst of another major legislative undertaking: passing another coronavirus relief package. A planned trip by Mr. Biden to visit a Pfizer vaccine manufacturing facility in Michigan on Thursday was postponed until Friday because of a winter storm in the Washington area.

Though Mr. Biden’s $1.9 trillion relief plan is all but certain to command attention on Capitol Hill in the near term, the introduction of the immigration overhaul provides a reminder that a number of daunting issues unrelated to the pandemic lie ahead as well.

Senator Bob Menendez, Democrat of New Jersey, and Representative Linda T. Sánchez, Democrat of California, are expected to hold a news conference to unveil the immigration legislation, which is based on a proposal Mr. Biden announced on his first day in office. Mr. Menendez’s office said in a news release that the lawmakers would be joined by 10 of their colleagues for the announcement.


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/02/18/us/joe-biden-news
oralloy
 
  1  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 05:31 pm
@revelette3,
The Biden plan is irrelevant. An immigration reform bill will be passed only if moderate Republicans are allowed to participate in writing it.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 05:32 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Calling the capitol hill violent riot insurrection a peaceful protest is simply ludicrous. but of course it's an oralloy post. so absurdity is to be expected.

Progressives hate facts and reality, but facts and reality are not ludicrous.

It is proper that peaceful protesters stand up to progressive bullying.
glitterbag
 
  2  
Thu 18 Feb, 2021 06:12 pm
@oralloy,
But please don't let the peaceful protestors gouge out the eyes of policeman.
 

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