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The Case For Biden

 
 
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jan, 2021 05:53 am
@snood,
snood, how are you feeling about Merrick Garland as AG now? I know you sort of withheld judgment when it was first announced.

Personally, I think it's a great choice. I could see a more radical choice had the Dems won a more sweeping victory in the election — an 11 vote lead in the House and a tie in the Senate is good enough to govern but not really the sort of momentous acclamation which would enable the installation of a progressive dream team.
snood
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jan, 2021 06:19 am
@hightor,
I’m still torn.
On one hand, he was major in prosecuting the OK City bombers. On the other hand, there was virtually zero pushback against burning those guys. So I can’t glean any clues from that prosecution to tell me how willing he will be to pursue a controversial case.

The main selling point they’re touting is that he will restore the independence and dignity of the justice department, and that’s a fine thing to aspire to. But I worry that he will be so concerned with assuring everyone he’s level-headed and bipartisan that he might not consider the scope of this outgoing administration’s criminality.

I want the new AG to really be able to take a good look at just how much corruption and criminality ran rampant the last four years - including the latest - incitement to riot and murder- and decide to prosecute based solely on what he finds.

I can’t tell yet whether Garland has that in him.

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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jan, 2021 08:40 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

snood, how are you feeling about Merrick Garland as AG now? I know you sort of withheld judgment when it was first announced.

Personally, I think it's a great choice. I could see a more radical choice had the Dems won a more sweeping victory in the election — an 11 vote lead in the House and a tie in the Senate is good enough to govern but not really the sort of momentous acclamation which would enable the installation of a progressive dream team.


I agree with Snood about Garland...and I am hoping that the new AG will be willing to fight the very hard legal fight that is needed to bring this country back to sanity.

I must admit, I would have preferred Hillary Clinton or Adam Schiff for the job. It would have been fun to see Trump and his family **** their pants in public.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jan, 2021 09:02 am
@Frank Apisa,
Thats why Garland makes most sense, it wont be a vendetta as it would should Hillary get tagged. Too much baggage spoils the trip.
Garland, as a judge, understands the rules of his oath (which Trump did not have a clue)
maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jan, 2021 10:55 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

I must admit, I would have preferred Hillary Clinton or Adam Schiff for the job. It would have been fun to see Trump and his family **** their pants in public.


Hillary could make a great Special Prosecutor.
revelette3
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jan, 2021 11:00 am
@farmerman,
I wonder what an Obama pick would have done? You think he would have accepted it?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jan, 2021 12:53 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Thats why Garland makes most sense, it wont be a vendetta as it would should Hillary get tagged. Too much baggage spoils the trip.
Garland, as a judge, understands the rules of his oath (which Trump did not have a clue)


Yup...Garland makes lots of sense. He is a good man.

The Hillary or Schiff comment was a wry joke.

BUT WOULDN'T IT BE WONDERFUL!
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jan, 2021 12:54 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

I must admit, I would have preferred Hillary Clinton or Adam Schiff for the job. It would have been fun to see Trump and his family **** their pants in public.


Hillary could make a great Special Prosecutor.


If she ever got to prosecute Trump...they would have to chisel the smile off her face.

I doubt we will see Hillary do any more politics...although she may do some talking and writing.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jan, 2021 04:53 pm
@revelette3,
I would like OBama be picked for USSC justice, He is every bit as sharp as was Scalia,
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jan, 2021 12:31 am
@oralloy,
Nonsense. there's no there there. Trump has lied incessantly for five years, fanned the flames of hatred and discord, and tried for six weeks since the election to stage a coup, which he did wednesday and which blew up in his face. he's guilty of insurrection and sedition, and demands across the political spectrum are coming fast and furious that he be ousted from office. He's in no position now to keep his cronies from talking and giving us the whole truth now immediately. When the National Association of Manufacturers and Jamie Dimon and the WSJ, no fan of the left, all want him out you know he's gonna be toast soon. His actions have been blatantly criminal and it's time he pays the price pof that.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jan, 2021 12:38 am
@farmerman,
Copy that. Obama to SCOTUS stat. Trump's three appointments didn't do what he expected them to do, which was good because his expectations were clearly unconstitutional, but they're still there and justice demands a counterweight to the dead hand of conservatism they put out to tilt the scales of justice.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jan, 2021 02:08 am
Fears over Biden inauguration security mount after US Capitol attack
Quote:
Biden’s ascendancy to the presidency on 20 January has been declared a “national security special event”. That awards it the highest level of security preparation, with all the phenomenal firepower that federal agencies led by the Secret Service and FBI can muster.

In the wake of the attack on the Capitol, that already elevated security level is now being ramped up significantly. The risk of the incoming president and vice-president, three former presidents, the nine members of the US supreme court, and most members of Congress – all of whom are expected to attend the inauguration – being exposed to a repeat attack by the Trump-incited mob is beyond contemplation.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jan, 2021 02:14 am
@farmerman,
And he's young enough to be there for awhile.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jan, 2021 02:24 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Fears over Biden inauguration security mount after US Capitol attack
Quote:
Biden’s ascendancy to the presidency on 20 January has been declared a “national security special event”. That awards it the highest level of security preparation, with all the phenomenal firepower that federal agencies led by the Secret Service and FBI can muster.

In the wake of the attack on the Capitol, that already elevated security level is now being ramped up significantly. The risk of the incoming president and vice-president, three former presidents, the nine members of the US supreme court, and most members of Congress – all of whom are expected to attend the inauguration – being exposed to a repeat attack by the Trump-incited mob is beyond contemplation.



I think we need to forget an outside ceremony, I think we need a heavily guarded location complete with snipers and special forces. I don't want the entire government a sitting target for the home grown radicalized terrorists. I can't fathom what this country would become with a shitload of dim, poorly educated racists in charge of 'keeping this country great'.
maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jan, 2021 04:50 am
@glitterbag,
I wan the exact opposite. I want everything to continue as planned.

These MAGA Terrorists (or Y’all Qaeda) can’t do anything to stop the inauguration.
snood
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jan, 2021 05:38 am
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

I wan the exact opposite. I want everything to continue as planned.

These MAGA Terrorists (or Y’all Qaeda) can’t do anything to stop the inauguration.


I prefer Vanilla Isis
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jan, 2021 09:02 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:


Walter Hinteler wrote:

Fears over Biden inauguration security mount after US Capitol attack
Quote:
Biden’s ascendancy to the presidency on 20 January has been declared a “national security special event”. That awards it the highest level of security preparation, with all the phenomenal firepower that federal agencies led by the Secret Service and FBI can muster.

In the wake of the attack on the Capitol, that already elevated security level is now being ramped up significantly. The risk of the incoming president and vice-president, three former presidents, the nine members of the US supreme court, and most members of Congress – all of whom are expected to attend the inauguration – being exposed to a repeat attack by the Trump-incited mob is beyond contemplation.



I think we need to forget an outside ceremony, I think we need a heavily guarded location complete with snipers and special forces. I don't want the entire government a sitting target for the home grown radicalized terrorists. I can't fathom what this country would become with a shitload of dim, poorly educated racists in charge of 'keeping this country great'.


I agree. The idea of a large outside gathering was reasonable when the ability to outreach with media was limited. But these days, the event could more reasonably and safely be done indoors...without the entirety of the government in attendance.

Particularly right now...this makes very little sense.

Would not bother me a bit if a reason were found to call off the outdoor ceremony completely.
revelette3
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jan, 2021 09:50 am
@farmerman,
That would be great and Biden could do it too, but are there any USSC ready to retire soon and would they knowing they would leave a seat open? It seems wrong to hope for someone to die.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jan, 2021 10:12 am
@revelette3,
Scalia died in his USSC prime. It can happen. Im not wholly disappointed with the newer Appointees, theyve shown they are NOT toadies to a president.
Im only worrid about Thomas, hes aRWN from the word go. His entire worldview has no room for careful analyses of what the founders would do if they were living today.

 

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