@Frank Apisa,
The thing is Frank, you don't argue, you don't debate, you just repeat the same mantra over and over again.
Any attempt at conversation, no matter how polite, will get nowhere. You've said it umpteen times before. If you don't want people to consider you a troll change the record, there be something other than agnosticism, golf and Snowden's "fair trial" that you're interested in.
How about congratulating your ladies on winning the World Cup? Something that made the rest of the world sit up and take notice but has yet to warrant a thread on A2K.
This goal alone is worth a place in the history books.