When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

@Frank Apisa,

Want to bet that later in this discussion Lash claims that I am an admitted pedifile. I thought of that when I posted but screw it, I am not going to worry about someone who seems to be irrational on this political discussion.

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@RABEL222,

Hmmm.

Rabel, I have a few times seen you ignoring or skipping over or misreading posts.
No, I didn't keep track.
Many times I have agreed with you on a variety of things.

On whether you or Lash attacked first, I'd guess you, but I don't know. I understand attacking. Then stuff happens.

As someone very tired of spit balls, I'll ask if there is a way we can just converse?
I get it some of us like to rant, fine, and more, insult. I guess it is addictive.

It's also tacky.

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@ossobuco,

Your book sounds fascinating. I hope you'll share a bit of it when you're done.

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Osso for Parliamentarian!!!

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@ossobuco,

I will still pick her over a fucked up Supreme Court.

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@hawkeye10,

Oh for ****'s sake. Our enemies read emails on the Pentagon system as well as the State department. She didn't make anything easier.

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@parados,

Do you really know what you are saying? I doubt it seriously. I spent 27 years in the Navy and had very high level, compartmented clearanes for much of that time. What you are asserting is patently false. Any communications from high level officiuals involved in national security issues were very cloisely guarded and kept on channels with zero connectivity to the internet or any outside network.

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@georgeob1,

paradox is wrong? Imagine that!

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@ossobuco,

The attack was a question and a statement. I asked her if she had really become a liberal or if she was using Bernie to attack Hillary because she hates her. She has been an ultra conservative ever since I have been on this site. I than stated I dident believe she was a liberal and if Hillary is nominated that she would vote republican. She seems to believe this was a personal attack which I dont see anything personal in. Her answer was a one word attack. Psycho, next she accused me of being racist I guess because I hate Israel which she evidently equates with jews. If you see me as the instigator I am sorry that your feelings were hurt. If you want me to I can find some other attacks by her that were much worse than my question and statement.

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Get ready to meet the new and improved new-and-improved Hillary Clinton.

Or at least that’s the message the Clinton campaign recently delivered to the New York Times. In a series of interviews about her campaign’s shifting strategy, the paper reports, Hillary’s advisers “promised that this fall the public would see the sides of Mrs. Clinton that are often obscured by the noise and distractions of modern campaigning.” Gone will be the rope lines that separate her from the public, and her dismissiveness about concerns over her private email use. In their place, the Times reports, will be concerted efforts to showcase Clinton’s “humor” and her “heart,” and “to bring spontaneity to a candidacy that sometimes seems wooden and overly cautious.”

In a world where words have meaning, such a campaign strategy would be nonsensical. You don’t become more authentic by trying to act authentic, and you can’t plan to be spontaneous. If the Hillary Clinton we saw during the 2008 election and during the first five months of this one wasn’t the “real Hillary Clinton,” why would voters believe the next version her campaign presents will be? Why would they believe that any version would be for that matter?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/09/08/hillary_clinton_reboot_the_nyt_reports_she_will_show_more_humor_and_heart.html

This bitch has no clue how this game works. 08 was not a fluke. No wonder the R's cant wait to slice and dice her.

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@hawkeye10,

Biden sucks, but at least he has some idea of how politics works. It is astonishing that a woman married to Bill Clinton could learn so little over 4 decades or whatever it is. She must be really stupid!

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@hawkeye10,

BTW I noticed somewhere Bill saying that he has learned to keep his mouth shut unless the wife asks for advice.

I can tell!

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@RABEL222,

I have never been ultra conservative.

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@RABEL222,

That is a ridiculous cowardly lie, Rabel. What a small, cringing liar you are.

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@Lash,

Lash wrote:

I have never been ultra conservative.

OK, but you have not explained how you got to where you are. Why? How? What were the steps? What are you hiding from us? That you had a new man, a new job, and a new state I get, but that dont spain it.

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@hawkeye10,

It bugs me that you say I haven't explained the shift in my political opinion. I have - and I've done it twice.

I also deeply resent your implication that I'm hiding something. Just why in the **** would I be hiding anything? Who here am I trying to impress? The primary reason I come to this place is the freedom to say things I think or believe without censor. There aren't many places I don't have to severely monitor what I say - A2K is freeing in that way. If I had to "hide" something, why the hell would I even come here?

(exhale) Rant over.

Anyway, I found one instance that attempts to describe the difference in my opinions, but I've been socially liberal since I was a kid.

http://able2know.org/topic/275175-68#post-6023358

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@RABEL222,

I've said over and over: to me the e-mails are a non issue.

Re: sending you a image and charging you with possession: it dosn't matter if you asked for it or not, it only matters if you keep it. The post office has charged people with accepting illegal porn after sending it to them unsolicited in the mail.

However, Hillary Clinton's inability to put it to bed worries me. She's acting like it just doesn't matter. While the e-mails don't matter, her inability to handle it does.

What bothers me a lot more and should bother all of us is: her support for fracking, Keystone, death sentence, corporate dark money, the private prison industry, mandatory minimum sentencing, NSA intercepts, TPP, IRW, Homeland Security, Patriot Act ...... stands you and I both have a different stand on.

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@parados,

Our intelligence agencies seem to very much disagree with you. Some of the emails they are calling top secret, I agree, they don't seem top secret. But there are a few I think she was careless about. Sensitive information is not supposed to be sent on emails in anyone's system from what I understand. Moreover, I agree with Bobsal, the flip way she is handling this, is not doing her any favors. I hope she will step down, if she don't, I think she is being selfish. My opinion of which it should go without saying, folks are free to disagree with.

For anyone's information what finally turned me was the North Korea article of which I left a few days ago. I agree with intelligence on that one.

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@georgeob1,

And yet the Pentagon said their email system used by the Joint Chiefs was hacked?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/08/06/russia-reportedly-hacks-pentagon-email-system/31228625/

Who should I believe? The Pentagon or a self identified 27 year Navy veteran on the internet?

Nothing Hillary sent or received was classified at the time it was sent or received.

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@revelette2,

I get that some people see Clinton setting up her own server as a bit paranoid. I get some that some people see that as Clinton playing fast with the rules. At the end of the day, none of her emails are on Wikileaks and there in no evidence that the Chinese or Russians or Israelis hacked her server. The sad reality is that Clinton's server was probably more secure than the government's, if only because no one knew it was there. I just can't get excited about this when there are plenty of whopper issues facing the government.

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