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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 15 Apr, 2016 09:49 am
@Blickers,
It's the blind leading the blind.
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maporsche
 
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Fri 15 Apr, 2016 09:49 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I teach his Letter From Birmingham Jail. I know exactly what he said. The mans words speak for him quite well.


Lash wrote:
You seem to have a personal anecdote for every possible issue. Not believing it.

http://able2know.org/topic/275175-287#post-6164759
revelette2
 
  1  
Fri 15 Apr, 2016 11:43 am
@maporsche,
Laughing
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Lash
 
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Fri 15 Apr, 2016 02:57 pm
@Blickers,
As I said, the man's words speak for him.

___________________________
First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.
_________________________________________

It is so easy to see the work of Bernie Sanders as a continuation of MLK's work. Martin died planning a Poor People's Protest and march as a Democratic Socialist - sound familiar? The incrementalism that the so-called American liberals espouse makes all the right noises, but withholds true economic freedom, still. Bernie has been the first presidential candidate to agree with progressives that the US systems are rife with institutional racism - and he has vowed to put an end to it. If it weren't for him, none of the candidates would be making police and prison reform an important part of their platforms.

No matter what neoliberals say, King's words and works speak undeniably and clearly. So do Bernie's.

The cause is right. The time is now.

Clinton's waiting and excuses and incrementalism and telling black girls to hush and get lost with their complaints is the most accurate symbol of King's opposition as exists in current American politics.

I'm thrilled to conduct Socratic Seminars over the text, and see the kids in my specific area grapple with these facts.

If I could just get a few of them to leave their Trump caps in the truck...
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glitterbag
 
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Fri 15 Apr, 2016 06:59 pm
Can anyone explain to me (just not Lash) what in God's name is a neoliberal??? Anybody ever hear that term before?
ossobuco
 
  1  
Fri 15 Apr, 2016 07:03 pm
@glitterbag,
I can't. I have enough trouble with the basic word.
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ossobuco
 
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Fri 15 Apr, 2016 07:14 pm
I apparently can't get into a2k. This will pass. Some damned thing I clicked on or didn't.

I assume I'll be back, it not even a fluffer re my posts.
ossobuco
 
  1  
Fri 15 Apr, 2016 07:37 pm
@ossobuco,
Ok, back now.



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ossobuco
 
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Fri 15 Apr, 2016 07:39 pm
@ossobuco,
able2know
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Blickers
 
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Fri 15 Apr, 2016 08:10 pm
@glitterbag,
Be back in awhile. Will explain.
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maporsche
 
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Fri 15 Apr, 2016 08:41 pm
@glitterbag,
I've got no idea. I've got no use for labels really. But this one in particular I don't understand.
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Blickers
 
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Fri 15 Apr, 2016 09:00 pm
@glitterbag,
Instead of trying to explain, I'll just let people who write about the concept say what their idea of neoliberalism is.

Lash
 
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Fri 15 Apr, 2016 09:12 pm
@Blickers,
Extraordinary share, Blickers. Thank you.
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maporsche
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2016 02:03 am
@Blickers,
Thanks. I watched all of that.

No one here seems to be a neoliberal to me. I'm not sure Lash (whose been the one throwing the term around) understands what a neoliberal is.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2016 04:30 am
@maporsche,
That's about par for the course.
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Setanta
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2016 04:50 am
I've been looking at definitions of neoliberals online, and it seems to a liberal in conservative clothing--not much different from a so-called libertarian. My favorite definition of a libertarian is someone who wants a small government, but a strong police force to protect him from his wage slaves.
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Lash
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2016 05:28 am
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/democrats-have-no-soul-clintons-neoliberalism-and-how-peoples-party-lost-its-way

Neoliberalism owes a lot to the Clintons. Meet your new moniker.

Lash
 
  -2  
Sat 16 Apr, 2016 05:33 am
@Lash,
The subtitle of the Alternet article about neoliberalism paraphrases MLK's statement about the white liberal/"moderate," imo.

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Setanta
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2016 05:45 am
Alternet . . . how there's a nice, unbiased source. I find it interesting that Alternet claims to have 5.9 visitors a month, while Quantcast, a web rating service, says they get 1.3 million.

I was raised by conservative Democrats--i think you're all a buncha commies.
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Lash
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2016 05:50 am
I think, basically, neoliberalism is creeping fascism and the primary reason Bernie Sanders engenders such excitement from people who recognize what's happening. It's also the explanation for why Bernie supporters are so furious at Clinton supporters.

It's also why I've said countless times that this election is bigger than Bernie, and bigger than one election cycle.

A change HAS to be made.

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