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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
maporsche
 
  1  
Thu 14 Apr, 2016 05:43 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Gee. Bernie earns in a year what Hillary can make with 2 speeches...to the right people. There's no denying what she's selling.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-clinton-paid-double-sanders-net-worth-speeches-article-1.2598017?cid=bitly



Hold on....

From the article: Bernie’s entire net worth, accumulated over his 74 years of life, is less than half of what Hillary Clinton made just in her speeches to Goldman Sachs. In 2013, Bernie’s net worth was estimated to be $330,000 — making him among the least wealthy U.S. Senators in the country.


So Bernie's resume is
Mayor for 8 years (81-89) @ average of $50,000/yr
House of Representatives for 16 years (1991-2007) @ average $143,000/yr
Senator for 8 years (2008-2016) @ average $173,000/yr

Based on these salaries, Bernie has earned over $4,500,000 in his career. He's only managed to have a net worth of $330,000 over the last 35 years of his life!!!!!

And this is a man you trust to lead our economy and make economic decisions??

If he'd saved just 10% of his income (the minimum suggested amount for retirement), he'd have over $3,700,000 in savings right now with all the compound interest. As it stands he's managed to save 0.90% of his salary.

You read this and see something completely different than I do Lash. I trust him with our country less now because of this.

Salary history can be found here: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0854828.html
Olivier5
 
  1  
Thu 14 Apr, 2016 06:11 am
@Lash,
I see it as Uncle Tom's approach to freedom, the fear of what could possibly happen if the cage door would open.
engineer
 
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Thu 14 Apr, 2016 06:24 am
@maporsche,
I think the other part of what Clinton can demand as a speaker is her qualifications. Clinton has been at the center of national politics through some very tumultuous times. Her insights would be interesting to hear. She's been in the hot seat and in the opposition, had great victories and crushing defeats and served in the highest levels of government. Why wouldn't someone want to listen to her talk?
revelette2
 
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Thu 14 Apr, 2016 09:18 am
Speaking of our economy, Jobless Claims in U.S. Decline to Match Lowest Since 1973

Quote:
The number of Americans filing applications for unemployment benefits unexpectedly declined last week to match a more than 42-year low, indicating employers are upbeat about an economy that bogged down in the first quarter.

Jobless claims dropped by 13,000 to 253,000 in the week ended April 9, equaling the level in March that was the lowest since November 1973, a report from the Labor Department showed Thursday. The median forecast in a Bloomberg survey called for 270,000. Continuing claims also declined, to the lowest since mid-October.

Scant dismissals along with persistent additions to headcounts indicate companies are looking beyond the recent softness in the economy. A jobless rate near an eight-year low and the healthy outlook for employment are among reasons some economists project consumer spending and growth to pick up this quarter.




“Jobless claims are running really low and all other labor market data are telling us that the economy is creating a lot of jobs,” said Patrick Newport, an economist at IHS Global Insight in Lexington, Massachusetts. “This is further confirmation that the labor market is strong.”

No states or U.S. territories estimated jobless claims and there was nothing unusual in the figures, according to the Labor Department.

Economists’ estimates in the Bloomberg survey for weekly jobless claims ranged from 252,000 to 290,000. The previous week’s figure was revised to 266,000 from 267,000.

The four-week moving average, a less volatile measure than the weekly claims numbers, decreased to 265,000 last week from 266,500.




Continuing Claims

The number of people continuing to receive jobless benefits fell by 18,000 to 2.17 million in the week ended April 2, the lowest since the period ended Oct. 17. The unemployment rate among people eligible for benefits held at 1.6 percent. These data are reported with a one-week lag.

The four-week average of continuing claims dropped to 2.18 million, the lowest since November 2000.

For 58 consecutive weeks claims have been below the 300,000 level that economists say is typically consistent with an improving job market. That’s the longest stretch since 1973.

Job Openings

Data from the Labor Department on April 5 showed that in February, job listings were still abundant more Americans voluntarily left their positions, signaling growing confidence in being able to land a new job.

The March jobs report, also released earlier this month, showed employers added 215,000 workers to payrolls after a 245,000 February advance, while the jobless rate edged up to 5 percent as more people entered the labor force.

Initial jobless claims reflect weekly firings, and a sustained low level of applications has typically coincided with faster job gains. Layoffs may also reflect company- or industry-specific causes, such as cost-cutting or business restructuring, rather than underlying labor market trends.
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 14 Apr, 2016 10:43 am
@revelette2,
Here in Silicon Valley, hiring is still pretty healthy. Most expect 3% growth this year.
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Lash
 
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Thu 14 Apr, 2016 02:10 pm
@Olivier5,
You're right. I guess we've seen the rise of the neodemocrat, or neoliberal, the ones MLK was talking about. Over the past couple of decades they've herded the rest of the country around, creating a language, forcing a narrative into the public consciousness, and vilifying anyone who doesn't buy in. This is why I hated political correctness. The neoliberal just says the right words - nobody's paying attention to what the **** they're DOING.

Blacks will never really get power in this country. The neoliberal has them anesthetized.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 14 Apr, 2016 02:18 pm
@Lash,
Here are a few blacks.
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=black+politicians+in+america&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Lash
 
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Thu 14 Apr, 2016 02:36 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Hi CI. We all know there are some blacks who have reached positions of power.

A handful of well-heeled black Americans doesn't threaten the status quo. Actually, it shuts up those who see inequality and complain about it - sort of like you intended to do with your post, though I don't think your intention was nefarious.

True equality seems to scare conservatives and neoliberals, who are doing their damnedest to keep a thick dividing line between whites...and, to extend it, all non-white groups.



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ossobuco
 
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Thu 14 Apr, 2016 03:09 pm
@ehBeth,
That is very convincing.

I've always liked Hayden, though not always agreeing with him. By now, I don't remember the details of all that.
ossobuco
 
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Thu 14 Apr, 2016 03:25 pm
@ossobuco,
adds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hayden
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ossobuco
 
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Thu 14 Apr, 2016 03:32 pm
@maporsche,
No, that wasn't directed at you in particular, was a generalization re a2k assumptions, and I included you in with it. I know, I know, I make them too. A lot of us talkers do that once in a while. Meantime, you're pretty sharp, sharp meant in a good way, and I know you aren't money mad.
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Lash
 
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Thu 14 Apr, 2016 03:40 pm
I was going to joke that old Tom had suffered a stroke and that's to blame for this sorrowful change in who he is. He was a man of integrity, and now he vomits out this lukewarm nonsense.

I see he did have a stroke.

He's not the same man.
maporsche
 
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Thu 14 Apr, 2016 04:03 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I was going to joke that old Tom had suffered a stroke and that's to blame for this sorrowful change in who he is. He was a man of integrity, and now he vomits out this lukewarm nonsense.

I see he did have a stroke.

He's not the same man.


Wow....what a callous and disgusting comment. Millions of people worldwide recover from strokes without any cognitive damage.
Lash
 
  -1  
Thu 14 Apr, 2016 04:09 pm
@maporsche,
Yes, Hillary. Work up some indignation. Forget the facts.

https://www.stroke.org.uk/what-stroke/common-problems-after-stroke/problems-memory-and-thinking

Problems with memory and thinking

Problems with memory and thinking are very common after a stroke and most people will have some difficulties. Problems with concentration and memory are especially common.
Why do they happen?
Cognitive problems happen because of damage to your brain.

Every second you receive a huge amount of information from the world around you, which your brain has to understand, organise and keep.

If the part of your brain that processes this information is damaged, this can cause a number of problems.
What kind of problems do people have?
After a stroke, it’s common to find it difficult to concentrate or remember certain things. You may also find it difficult to work out how to do something or know how to respond to what’s going on around you.

You may find it difficult to:
follow a TV programme or read a book
remember what it is that you were doing
remember what someone told you only moments ago
find your way around
work out how to do things you used to do easily, like use the TV remote control or prepare a meal
notice things on one side of you.
After a stroke cognitive problems can be quite common. So they can be things like problems with your concentration, difficulty with memory, finding that you just can’t remember things as well as you could before.
____________________________________________

When an older person suddenly seems to think differently, you should investigate the possibility that they've had a stroke.
maporsche
 
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Thu 14 Apr, 2016 04:11 pm
@Lash,
Yeah, I've learned quite a bit about this through my several years of nursing school and working with directly with patients who've actually suffered a stroke.

Thanks for your WebMD summary though. Helpful.
Lash
 
  -1  
Thu 14 Apr, 2016 04:13 pm
@maporsche,
You obviously needed it. You seem to have a personal anecdote for every possible issue. Not believing it.
maporsche
 
  3  
Thu 14 Apr, 2016 04:15 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

You obviously needed it. You seem to have a personal anecdote for every possible issue. Not believing it.


Just stop.
revelette2
 
  1  
Thu 14 Apr, 2016 04:23 pm
Thinking They’re ‘Unqualified’ Is A Big Reason More Women Don’t Run For Office
By Clare Malone and Julia Azari
Quote:

Bernie Sanders rallies, which have become renowned of late for their St. Francis dances with the animals vibe, lost a bit of their mystique on Wednesday in Philadelphia, when the Vermont senator said something that stuck in the craws of many: that Hillary Clinton isn’t qualified to be president.


She has been saying lately that she thinks I am not quote unquote qualified to be president,” Sanders said. “Let me just say in response to Secretary Clinton: I don’t believe that she is qualified if she is, through her super-PAC, taking tens of millions of dollars in special interests’ funds.

Sanders, who has since walked back his comments, was responding to Clinton’s critique of his interview with the editorial board of the New York Daily News, in which he stumbled over the details of his plan to break up the banks. “He’d been talking for more than a year about doing things that he obviously hadn’t really studied or understood, and that does raise a lot of questions,” Clinton said.

In his Philadelphia remarks, Sanders was attempting to make the basic argument of this election — that “outsiders” are more qualified than “insiders” to run the country at this particular moment. But calling Clinton, a former U.S. senator and secretary of state, “unqualified” is raising ire as a gendered attack, although that didn’t appear to be Sanders’s intention.

While 2016 campaign discussions of sexism have largely been preoccupied with Donald Trump’s blunt force assaults on modern notions of manners, let alone gender equity, Sanders’s remarks and their interpretation play into discussions of the subtle, pernicious forms of sexism that women in positions of power must deal with.

At the core of Clinton’s candidate packaging is the idea that she has for decades been the competent woman behind the scenes — a workhorse, not a show pony.

Clinton is not alone among her cohort in having highly burnished credentials; most female politicians are more qualified than their male counterparts, according to a 2013 paper by political scientists Kathryn Pearson and Eric McGhee. Looking at non-incumbent congressional races from 1984 to 2010, and which candidates had held elected office at a lower level — their metric for qualification — the researchers found that “women candidates in both parties are indeed more qualified than men.”

Why the extra layer of concern on the part of female candidates?

For one thing, there appears to be more self-doubt on the part of these high-powered women. A 2004 report by Jennifer Lawless and Richard Fox found that of a pool of prospective candidates — lawyers, business people, political activists — men were about twice as likely as women to say that they were qualified to run. Twenty-eight percent of women said they weren’t qualified at all, while only 12 percent of men found themselves lacking in some way. In the pop psychology parlance of 2016, we might note a whiff of imposter’s syndrome in these numbers.

It might not come as a surprise that just as women generally hold themselves to a higher standard in their self-examination before running for office, voters measure female candidates by different metrics than male candidates; there’s a very specific type of scrutiny that women politicians fall under. Women who might run for office seem to intuit that; a 2015 paper from the political scientists Kristin Kanthak and Jonathan Woon found that women are “election averse.” “Women’s entry into the candidate pool increases only if we simultaneously guarantee that campaigns are completely truthful and eliminate the private costs of running for office,” Kanthak and Woon found.

In a memo out this month from Lake Research Partners, Chesapeake Beach Consulting and the Barbara Lee Family Foundation, titled “Politics is Personal: Keys to Likeability and Electability for Women,” suggestions such as “Voters like informal photos of women candidates engaging with children” and “Voters like women officeholders who share credit with their teams, in addition to taking credit as an individual leader,” were on offer.

The memo, of the brass tacks strategy variety, says quite a bit about the line that female candidates must walk. “Women face a litmus test that men do not have to pass,” reads a passage in the document. “Women have to prove they are qualified. For men, their qualification is assumed.”

That’s why Sanders’s statement about Clinton’s qualifications cuts so deep — it seemed to send a volley at the fortress of qualification female candidates build up as proof of their worthiness to the public at large.

As a woman running for president, Clinton has been placed in a very particular gender bind; she is eager to showcase her impeccable resume yet quick to point out, in this year when voters have turned up their noses at establishment candidates, that being a woman in politics is an inherently outsider position. Sarah Palin and Wendy Davis have played on this same underdog — or “maverick,” as the case may be — note before.

Whatever the intent of Sanders’s original comments, language and all its hidden codes unspool during election years; its effects are pondered all the more. Karthak, co-author of the 2015 paper on women’s election aversion, took to Twitter this week to muse about the greater implications of Sanders’s comments.

Kris Kanthak ‎‎@kramtrak


Q: What's the best way to suppress women's political ambition in this election?
A: Call Hillary Clinton "not qualified"
Thanks, Bernie!

6:38 AM - 7 Apr 2016 · Chicago, IL, United States




ossobuco
 
  1  
Thu 14 Apr, 2016 05:00 pm
@revelette2,
Interesting article, thanks for posting it.
I've known a couple or four female politicians, two at the state level, one in congress, but I knew her way less well than the other two, and one at the Los Angeles city level, also personally knew her less well. Smart, they all were.

I doubt Sanders thinks women in general are less bright, but he stubbed his fingers and toes there.
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ehBeth
 
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Thu 14 Apr, 2016 05:07 pm
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:

Quote:
In his Philadelphia remarks, Sanders was attempting to make the basic argument of this election — that “outsiders” are more qualified than “insiders” to run the country at this particular moment.



sure hope he wasn't thinking of Ms. Warren as a companion veep candidate if he truly feels this way
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