When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

For people who want to understand what's happening, this is a book, but written in a readable voice, and saying vitally important things.

A narrative of the three primary columns that prop up neoliberalism. Incarceration of minorities and the poor is a major support of our creeping fascism. Deregulation. The results- we all see. The rich get richer, the poor struggle, lose rights, lose hope.

Cynical people see political expedience in Bernie's trip to the Vatican. Economic fairness is what he pushes every time he opens his mouth. He sees where we are and where we're headed. He's thrilled that the pope sees it too. The economic summit he delivered his paper at is incredibly useful to fight the Clintons and other neolibs of the world who are pushing us to a revolutionary precipice.

Anyway, here's a book.

http://conservancy.umn.edu/bitstream/handle/11299/153053/Dillon_umn_0130E_13833.pdf)?sequence=1

Kareem wrote an op-ed in the WaPo supporting Hillary. A couple of things were brought to mind... First, I remembered why he is on my very short list of two or three people I would ever in my life approach and ask for an autograph. Besides the fact that he was my first basketball idol and I worked like hell to fashion a hook shot like his, I was always impressed by his intelligence and bearing. The next thing that came to mind is how some people rush to put front and center any black celebrities that endorse their candidate, and how this might be construed as the same thing. Oh well, can't be helped, I guess.

But I wanted to post Kareem's piece anyway because to me he is a partial refutation of the insulting insinuation that black people only support Hillary because they aren't seeing clearly, have been bought off, or are knee-jerking to name recognition. That gets suggested here often - when some blacks voice support for Bernie, I've seen things like "the brothers are waking up!" When blacks support Hillary, I've seen comments suggesting they just. don't. get. it.

Kareem has always thought for himself, and he still is. Read it. Notice how he is able to voice his reasons for supporting Hillary without slamming Bernie.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: In this crucial election, I’m endorsing Hillary Clinton

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kareem-abdul-jabbar-in-this-crucial-election-im-endorsing-hillary-clinton/2016/04/15/305bd5fc-0244-11e6-9203-7b8670959b88_story.html

The Carceral State.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/us-prison-population_us_56686cf0e4b0f290e5217ffb

Quote Kareem Abdul-Jabbar:

Kareem has always been the most thoughtful of the significant black pro athletes of the sixties. He was more than just an athlete going for the big money-he had higher aims.

So when are you ever going to deal with the fact that under Bill Clinton, whom you smear as a "neolib", the number of black victims of murder declined by over 30%, when it was soaring up, up, up when he took over? Is not only heading off a wave of black murders, but actually reversing the direction and cutting them significantly mean so little to you that it draws no mention? I guess you're so wrapped up in your "neolib" theories that you forget the facts. So here they are:
Black Murder Victims By Year
Under Bush I
1987......8,998
1988......9,956
1989.....10,566
1990.....11,487
1991.....12,227
1992.....11,777

Bill Clinton Takes Office
1993.....12,433
1994.....11,854
1995.....10,442
1996.......9,473
1997.......8,841
1998.......7,933
1999.......7,139
2000.......7,425

Under Bush I's last year murder rate of black victims, there would be 94,216 black people murdered in the years 1993 through 2000. Instead, under Bill Clinton only 75,540 black people were murdered in those years. Bill Clinton's presidency saved over 18,000 black lives.

Question: In the middle of a rising wave of murders, do you know ANY way of bringing the number of victims down without putting more people in jail? Or does that not matter, since it doesn't fit the narrative you are pushing?

Clinton wasn't responsible for the downturn in Black deaths. With the passing of the crack epidemic, drug related homicides dropped all over the country regardless of policing techniques, incarceration rates, etc. If you want a lively debate, there is the legalizing abortion caused murder rates to drop and the removal of leaded gas caused murder rate to drop arguments to discuss, but I doubt you can point to anything that Clinton did and say "that reduced the murder rate."

Quote engineer:

1. Crime bill with stricter punishments, which only affected Federal prisoners, who are not very many, but which set the example for states. This is a mixed bag, as at least some of those punishments were overly harsh, but we had drug wars taking over our streets.

2. Dramatic increase in Full Time jobs, an average of 2 Million Full Time jobs created per year. Blacks, who are only 13% of the population, enjoyed a boost of 30% in Full Time jobs under Clinton, almost twice as high as the population at large.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/276586-sanders-supporters-shower-clinton-motorcade-with-1-bills
Looks like the French Revolution over here.

Clinton humiliated as competing dinner guests at neighbor's Sanders fundraiser throw money at her limousine.

They paid $27 per person to support Bernie. Clooney's guests paid $350k.

This is your world. Do something about it.

Hillary Clinton Snags $15M+ From George Clooney-Hosted SF & LA Fundraisers

The Battle for New York’s Key
Voting Blocs in the Primaries

Instead of decrying the money being raised, we should be glad because a good deal of that money is going to other democrats running in the general election which will go to regaining the senate and perhaps picking up seats in the house which would allows us to pass some of these issues we have been talking about in the campaign's. So, am I glad George Clooney raised so much money the other night for Hillary and the DNC election candidates, to put into the words of Sara Palin, "you betcha." We are going to need it to beat republicans in the general election.

New York primary: Surge in voters as election nears

interesting article and comments section at that link

thanks revelette

Didn't notice the comment section, is it the twitter one? Could have done without reading that. Boy this election is just dragging its feet it seems to me. Wish is it was over with. We would all have to look at the world and see what else is happening with earth quakes and refugees, ISIS...

Funny how all the former liberals are Clinton neolibs suddenly.

Well, guess you always were. I have to admit; I am really surprised to see your true colors.

You lie about Martin Luther King's dislike of liberal whites in the Letter from Birmingham jail. First, he didn't mention liberal whites. Second, he directed his leader at a group of Southern clergymen who characterized themselves as supposedly not racist, (which counted as "moderate" in the early sixties South). Here is the statement from so-called "moderate" white clergymen that King directly addressed his Letter From Birmingham Jail toward:
Public Statement by eight Alabama clergymen
Denouncing Martin Luther King's efforts, April 12, 1963

PUBLIC STATEMENT BY EIGHT ALABAMA CLERGYMEN

April 12, 1963

We the undersigned clergymen are among those who, in January, issued "An Appeal for Law and Order and Common Sense," in dealing with racial problems in Alabama. We expressed understanding that honest convictions in racial matters could properly be pursued in the courts, but urged that decisions of those courts should in the meantime be peacefully obeyed.

Since that time there had been some evidence of increased forbearance and a willingness to face facts. Responsible citizens have undertaken to work on various problems which cause racial friction and unrest. In Birmingham, recent public events have given indication that we all have opportunity for a new constructive and realistic approach to racial problems.

However, we are now confronted by a series of demonstrations by some of our Negro citizens, directed and led in part by outsiders. We recognize the natural impatience of people who feel that their hopes are slow in being realized. But we are convinced that these demonstrations are unwise and untimely.

We agree rather with certain local Negro leadership which has called for honest and open negotiation of racial issues in our area. And we believe this kind of facing of issues can best be accomplished by citizens of our own metropolitan area, white and Negro, meeting with their knowledge and experience of the local situation. All of us need to face that responsibility and find proper channels for its accomplishment.

Just as we formerly pointed out that "hatred and violence have no sanction in our religious and political traditions," we also point out that such actions as incite to hatred and violence, however technically peaceful those actions may be, have not contributed to the resolution of our local problems. We do not believe that these days of new hope are days when extreme measures are justified in Birmingham.

We commend the community as a whole, and the local news media and law enforcement in particular, on the calm manner in which these demonstrations have been handled. We urge the public to continue to show restraint should the demonstrations continue, and the law enforcement official to remain calm and continue to protect our city from violence.

We further strongly urge our own Negro community to withdraw support from these demonstrations, and to unite locally in working peacefully for a better Birmingham. When rights are consistently denied, a cause should be pressed in the courts and in negotiations among local leaders, and not in the streets. We appeal to both our white and Negro citizenry to observe the principles of law and order and common sense.

C. C. J. Carpenter, D.D., LL.D.
Bishop of Alabama

Joseph A. Durick, D.D.
Auxiliary Bishop, Diocese of Mobile, Birmingham

Rabbi Hilton L. Grafman
Temple Emanu-El, Birmingham, Alabama

Bishop Paul Hardin
Bishop of the Alabama-West Florida Conference

Bishop Nolan B. Harmon
Bishop of the North Alabama Conference of the Methodist Church

George M. Murray, D.D., LL.D.
Bishop Coadjutor, Episcopal Diocese of Alabama

Edward V. Ramage
Moderator, Synod of the Alabama Presbyterian Church in the United States

Earl Stallings
Pastor, First Baptist Church, Birmingham, Alabama

The above are the white "moderates", early sixties Alabama style. They basically told King to get lost because he was causing trouble and that they can handle bringing racial justice themselves and don't need "outsiders". As evidence of their supposed progress toward racial justice, they said the Birmingham police did not beat the demonstrators senseless like they did at other places. That was these "moderates'" evidence that they were making progress.

You're going to seriously compare Bill Clinton to people like this? The President who brought the nation 2 Million new Full Time jobs a year with blacks getting twice the percentage of new Full Time jobs than the general population? The President under whom inflation adjusted weekly earnings increased 6% under his tenure for the general population, and over 8% for blacks? The President whose Justice Department defended affirmative action in the courts, albeit unsuccessfully?

I can only hope your students are mentally active enough to recover from your "teaching" of Martin Luther King's Letter From Birmingham Jail.

You are so dense. I know what the letter was in response to.

You exemplify what I hate about political correctness. You side-step meaning in deference to words, trying to parse some difference between the words "liberal" and "moderate" when the behavior is what he spoke against.

The lukewarm incrementalism that the Democrat party espouses was at point. LOL, Democrats have definitely been given a great favor - the ability to play off the outright in-your-face racism of the opposing party. They don't have to outrun the tiger, just the other guy running. An easy task.

So, the old Dems show up when they want votes, hold hands in the black churches, know all the words to the right songs, and in the light of broad day, decimate the black and brown communities while making a tidy profit by the head. Bill Clinton was the worst thing to happen to the black Americans of my generation - bar none.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2016/02/the_clinton_legacy_decimated_black_america_so_why_are_we_still_voting_for.html
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Incrementalism would actually be a welcome change. At least civil rights would be headed in the right direction.

Go play your duplicitous word games, though.

She's like the Blues Brothers - on a mission from God.
At least they were funny.

Here is something to ponder

I don't play word games-that's your thing. Because, God knows, you sure don't have any ability to seek out FACTS from anywhere but partisan websites, where the author prescreens them to support his/her theme. You have never looked up a fact on its own in the time I've known you.

Martin Luther King was not talking about incrementalism, as you constantly say, he was against the fact that there was no real progress at all locally in the fields of civil rights, and these "moderates", (who claim to be on the black man's side), had the nerve to join in with the segregationists in demanding that King leave Birmingham because he was an "outside agitator" and leave the local people to deal with the civil right problems-after they had accomplished absolutely nothing in that direction before King got there.

As King said in Letter From Birmingham Jail, in previous years the local black leaders had talked to the white business community about taking down signs that said No Blacks Allowed. The white business community agreed, but after the agreement only a minority of the white business owners did so, and as time passed, most of those who did take down the signs at first put them back up. That was the sum total of the progress the local leaders had made in Birmingham. Small wonder that in their letter telling people not to support King and his demonstrations, the white clergymen were down to having to point out that at least the local police did not beat the demonstrators like the cops did in other Southern cities. That was these white clergymens' idea of "progress".

Martin Luther King's Birmingham Jail letter was not opposed to making progress in increments, it was opposed to people to who don't make any progress at all and then side with the opponent in demanding those who come to make real change must leave.

You, on the other hand, distort King's position from the Birmingham Jail letter to say that the Clintons were somehow comparable to these white "moderate" clergymen demanding King leave Birmingham. Looking at Clinton's record,though, we find:

1. Defended affirmative action in court against the onslaught of the conservatives, despite the opposition's attempt to defeat Clinton in 1996 over it,

2. Not only prevented the mighty rising tide of black murders from continuing, but actually CUT them by over 30%

3. Ran the economy so well that 2 Million Full Time jobs were created yearly, during which time all races total increased their Full Time jobs 16%, (which is good), and blacks increased their Full Time jobs 30%, (which is great).

4. In an era where people were talking about the middle class losing ground, during the Clinton years all races total increased their inflation-adjusted weekly pay by over 6%, and blacks increased it by over 8%.

I think it's a shame American youth is being taught about Martin Luther King's Letter From Birmingham Jail from someone like yourself who clearly is uncomfortable with the very concept of facts and too politically opinionated to even let it bother her.