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The 2 years toddler killing the mother with a gun is a 1/320,000,000 rate since 1776.

Too much fuss for such an isolated case.

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@carloslebaron,

An isolated case of one 2yo killing mom. Isolated case of a allegedly smart person walking into a Walmart with a bullet in the chamber and no safety IDK.

We need to find out.

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@carloslebaron,

Children killing other children accidentally with handguns occurs around 50 times a year (link provided in previous post). Dogs shooting their owners with guns is more common than what you posted.

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Guns in the home proving deadly for kids

Snippets:
"Nearly 800 children under 14 were killed in gun accidents from 1999 to 2010, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Nearly one in five injury-related deaths in children and adolescents involve firearms."

"Through homicide, suicide and accidents, guns cause twice as many deaths in young people as cancer, five times as many as heart disease and 15 times as many as infections, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics."

Eight
Hundred
Kids
In
Eleven
Years.

Un-be-fuckin-lievable. Only in the USA or a few Banana Republics, eh?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/11/children-protection-gun-violence/2079177/

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@Lordyaswas,

don't forget Somalia. eve been lookin Somalia.

When I quit the NRA at the early yeqrs of its "hyper-bullshit-patriotism" years with Wacky Wayne as the spokesman, I recall a number of Americans said that "This isn't the NRA I grew up with"

hyper patriotism is always the fallback position of scoundrels, because they never consider any alternatives

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@BillRM,

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There is nothing special about firearms as far as being dangerous if not handle with care.

Nothing special about firearms? What else can a 2 year old handle that could kill someone 20' away?

Maybe you should have said there is nothing special about your argument since it completely ignores simple facts.

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@Lordyaswas,

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Eight
Hundred
Kids
In
Eleven
Years.

Not as many as the British girls raped and groomed by Muslims. They might be better off dead.
Do not talk about other countries being Banana Republics when your country is close to an Islamic emirate.

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@carloslebaron,

carloslebaron wrote:

The 2 years toddler killing the mother with a gun is a 1/320,000,000 rate since 1776.

Too much fuss for such an isolated case.

This was only a little over a month before.

Quote:

Wednesday 26 November 2014

The Tulsa Police Department on Tuesday identified a U.S. Army Reserve specialist as the woman who was fatally shot by her 3-year-old son in their east Tulsa home Monday afternoon.

Christa Engles, 26, was in a residence in the 100 block of South 168th East Avenue with the toddler and her 10-month-old daughter about 4:30 p.m. Monday when, according to Tulsa Police Homicide Sgt. Dave Walker, the boy shot her in the head while she appeared to be changing her daughter’s diaper in their living room.

source

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@parados,

do these guys realize that
The same interpretation of the Constitution that please them, also protects the murderers and other folks who will use guns to commit crimes?
The Constitution (2AMENDMENT) IS, it seems, a mutual suicide pact.

I USED TO BE AN NRA MEMBER. Its gotten really wacky. Its just a shill outfit constituted to sell more guns from its sponsor companies

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@farmerman,

Americans and guns.

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@carloslebaron,

Have you lost your ******* mind???? That's the ONLY one?????????

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@farmerman,

I've thought of dropping it too, though mostly for other reasons.

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@roger,

When I was a kid, the NRA was THE BEST at safety programs and markemanship training and tips for hunters. I went to a summer thing where we did skeet and trap, all NRA sponsored.
The Gun Clubs around Allentown required joining the NRA for membership so wed would learn the basics of "safe hunting" wewere taught respect and safety in all gun sports.

Nowadays its not so much a peep about safe hunting around here an the sportsmens clubs have dropped the NRA requirements and they have their own "safe hunters and safe hunters of tomorrow" programs.

I think George HW Bush quit the NRA while he was still in office.

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@farmerman,

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also protects the murderers and other folks who will use guns to commit crimes?

The problem with that logic in my opinion as no matter what the laws happen to be those who ave no problem with dealing with the black market is not going to have any problem with becoming armed.

The only thing that anti-firearms laws would do in made it hard for law abiding citizens to become arm.

Take note of the weapons that the terrorists have in France for example.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

The only thing that anti-firearms laws would do in made it hard for law abiding citizens to become arm.

Take note of the weapons that the terrorists have in France for example.

Do terrorists/criminals in the USA get their arms only legally?
What are the problems for law abiding citizens in France to get a firearm licence in your opinion?

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@farmerman,

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The same interpretation of the Constitution that please them, also protects the murderers

Show me where in the Second Amendment it says this please.

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@giujohn,

Think a bit. Does the 2nd amendment FORBID these murderers from carrying? It seems the permission-to- carry is a right protected by the Constitution, where does it deny that.

PS, I see that the oral boy has disappeared!!.. HAS HE RUN AFOWL OF THE TOS?

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@farmerman,

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Think a bit. Does the 2nd amendment FORBID these murderers from carrying? It seems the permission-to- carry is a right protected by the Constitution, where does it deny that.

PS, I see that the oral boy has disappeared!!.. HAS HE RUN AFOWL OF THE TOS?

Think a bit...do they let convicted criminals carry weapons in prison??
A right is not absolute. If it were, then we all would have the right to carry back pack nukes. The founding fathers intent is more than clear if you read their contemporaneous writings. A criminal (one who has by due process has been ajudicated so) loses certain rights like freedom of movement, the pursuit of happiness, AND THE RIGHT TO POSSESS A FIREARM. Interestingly enough, pre 20th century, someone who "paid the debt to society" was allowed to carry again a firearm.
So in answer to your question, the Second Amendment doesnt allow murders to carry a firearm. They are only murderers once they kill.(we are all potential murderers arent we?) And when they are ajudicated as such they can not carry.

And I dont know what, if anything, has happened to him.

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@giujohn,

you are trying to make a point post facto. My point is that ANYONE may carry a gun in the US (9unless local laws forbid it nd it appears that the NRA I tooling up to challenge ALL local ordinances).
Consequently, those who kill are granted the same protection (before the fact) as are normal citizens.
What happens when they abuse the 2nd amendment rights, they commit what e call a FELONY, which has nothing to do with the weapon (unless a state or the feds ADD additional charges for using a gun in the commission of said felony).

The 2nd Amendment is pretty clear as to who may possess a firearm. And the govt is unable , by law, to mess with the ownership.

Id like to see that change because Im a gun owner who feels that there should be sizable limits to gun possession.

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@farmerman,

So...you're in favor of a law that will reqiure the gov. to assess if an individual might commit murder and deny that person a firearm???

Coluld we also get them to tell me which women want to have hot nasty monkey sex with me without any real commitment cause it would save me a lot of time and effort.

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