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15 PHD level scientists say evolution is a bunch of bullshit

 
 
rcleary171
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 11:07 am
@Olivier5,
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I think we can already 'create' DNA. We could write down War and Peace on it, or any other code if we wanted to. But we couldn't READ IT without sequencing the entire thing...


Is DNA code a binary system? If not then we would be super imposing a binary template in order to make it compatible with a digital interface.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 11:19 am
@rcleary171,
DNA uses 4 different 'letters'. We could only use two of these (coding for 0 and 1) if that makes it easier, but coding is the easy part. The tricky part would be to access the stored information in a fast and efficient way.
rcleary171
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 12:22 pm
@Olivier5,
Quote:
DNA uses 4 different 'letters'. We could only use two of these (coding for 0 and 1) if that makes it easier, but coding is the easy part. The tricky part would be to access the stored information in a fast and efficient way.


I would imagine the coding process would generate a host of mBooks (molecule books) stored on some media. The read process would scan (over sample for lack of a better term) these mBooks and render a single return request (like a URL response). This is deep stuff that I can only begin to imagine the technology that we will need to pull this off. And if we ever decide to add a third dimension to our digital world we have more than enough capacity with the four sequence letters.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 02:24 pm
@rcleary171,
actually theres 5, since mRNA and tRNA are used in the "unzipping"
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 02:45 pm
@farmerman,
I only make it 3. D N and A, that's 3. (I was always good at counting.)
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DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 05:28 pm
@Brandon9000,
Evolution is caused by random mutations in the DNA code that turn out to be advantageous to the individual. Were you born and raised in a cave, seriously everyone agrees with this..... Gene splicing proves it as well.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 05:29 pm
@farmerman,
I could never stop laughing long enough to read Darwin carefully.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 05:31 pm
@Olivier5,
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/134672-harvard-cracks-dna-storage-crams-700-terabytes-of-data-into-a-single-gram Dude DNA has been written to and read already.....

Sheesh
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 05:38 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
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I could never stop laughing long enough to read Darwin carefully
That's too bad, because its obvious that youre personal educational journey has left you with the error of thought that makes you miss the fact that
"while mutations may be random, natural selection isn't"
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 05:41 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
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DNA has been written to and read already.....
so what?
We can store data on several other biochemical crystals and even a twin of boulangerite stores more than a typical piezo junction. BFD
FBM
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 06:44 pm
Fortunately, we don't have to treat Origin of Species as if it were scripture. We can question, test and modify what it says to fit observation: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/medicine_04

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HIV: the ultimate evolver

Evolutionary biologists can help uncover clues to new ways to treat or vaccinate against HIV. These clues emerge from the evolutionary origins of the virus, how human populations have evolved under pressure from other deadly pathogens, and how the virus evolves resistance to the drugs we've designed. Controlling the disease may be a matter of controlling the evolution of this constantly adapting virus.
HIV micrographThe human immunodeficiency virus (HIV, shown here budding from a white blood cell) is one of the fastest evolving entities known. It reproduces sloppily, accumulating lots of mutations when it copies its genetic material. It also reproduces at a lightning-fast rate — a single virus can spawn billions of copies in just one day. To fight HIV, we must understand its evolution within the human body and then ultimately find a way to control its evolution.

Taking an evolutionary perspective on HIV has led scientists to look in three new directions in their search for treatments and vaccines:

What are the evolutionary origins of HIV?
Why are some people resistant to HIV?
How can we control HIV's evolution of resistance to our drugs?
Origins of HIV-1
1. What are the evolutionary origins of HIV?
HIV, like any evolving entity, has been deeply marked by its history. Scientists studying the evolutionary history of HIV found that it is closely related to other viruses. Those viruses include SIVs (simian immunodeficiency viruses), which infect primates, and the more distantly related FIVs (the feline strains), which infect cats.
However, studies of these related viral lineages showed something surprising: primates with SIV and wild cats with FIV don't seem to be harmed by the viruses they carry. If scientists can figure out how non-human primates and wild cats are able to live with these viruses, they may learn how to better treat HIV infections or prevent them altogether.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 07:01 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
From your link:

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To read the data stored in DNA, you simply sequence it


From my post:

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1REPLYQUOTEEDITDELETEREPORT Tue 2 Dec, 2014 06:11 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
I think we can already 'create' DNA. We could write down War and Peace on it, or any other code if we wanted to. But we couldn't READ IT without sequencing the entire thing...

The problem with sequencing is that it takes forever, plus it destroys the DNA. So it'd be like a hard drive which you need to patiently tear apart in oder to access the stored info... Not terribly useful.

As i said, we can already store data on DNA. The problem is to access it in a rapid, reliable and non-destructive manner.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 09:29 pm
@Olivier5,
I am not concerned with the speed of access, as DNA was not designed to store binary code, it was built to store 4 pointed chemical code, something that we do not really understand as of yet. Once we do, then binary code will seem like cutting meat with a sharp stone. The important thing is that storing binary code on DNA proves that we have a hard drive inside of every cell in our bodies, which makes us some type of machine.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 09:35 pm
@farmerman,
But DNA is the hard drive, that you have 37 trillion of in your body, which makes you a machine of sorts......

Think, this may be the most revealing discovery since Yodels were invented.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 09:37 pm
@farmerman,
And it's obvious that you believe that your parents were a muddy pond.

Rather sad, but true.
FBM
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 09:44 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Not as sad as an adult having invisible friends, talking to them and even taking orders from them.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 09:57 pm
@FBM,
Can you tell us what their names are?
FBM
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 10:08 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
They're your friends; you tell me.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 10:09 pm
@FBM,
Now that was sooooooo clever....!
FBM
 
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Reply Tue 2 Dec, 2014 10:13 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
So...found any evidence to support that Bronze Age myth yet?
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