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15 PHD level scientists say evolution is a bunch of bullshit

 
 
rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 10 Dec, 2014 08:46 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
We have a member here who knew Arno and Penzias

You may be talking about me. But I think you mean Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson.

When I grew up in the 1960's Bob Wilson's son was my best friend, so I hung around their house quite a bit. Bob was (and still is) a very pleasant and soft spoken man. We still visit Bob and his family periodically. I rarely met Arno, and barely remember him.

This is how I remember them from the 60's. Bob is in the back.

http://www.astro.virginia.edu/~dmw8f/BBA_web/unit03/unit3_4.jpg
rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 10 Dec, 2014 08:50 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
The religious nut bags get worked up over abiogenesis because they want to insert their god into the process.

Exactly. They see it as a gap which can be filled with magic (or an un-named intelligent designer... which in infinite regress is essentially the same as magic). This why we see such desperate blindness in their arguments.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 10 Dec, 2014 06:36 pm
@rosborne979,
Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

OOPS, yeh Penzias and Wilson.

Did they put you to work, uh, sanitizing the horn?
rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 10 Dec, 2014 07:45 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Did they put you to work, uh, sanitizing the horn?
Thankfully no. This was at time when we were probably a little too young to accomplish any real work.

Most of our time was spent catching frogs in the local swamp and collecting fossilized sharks teeth in the creek.
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DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 05:28 am
@rosborne979,
I live perhaps 5 minutes from where that radio telescope used to stand, where did you grow up? Now only the plaque remains. http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gnopbjyr3injpg/original.jpg
rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 07:28 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
I grew up in Holmdel on Spring Valley Dr.

There is a brook near you called Ramanessin Brook which is chock full of fossilized sharks teeth. All you need to do is [wait for good weather and then] wade into the brook and look on the little sand bars and you will be able to find the teeth (and sometimes other fossils). That whole area is a great fossil resource.

I'm sorry to hear that the antenna is gone. Are other antenna's still up there on telegraph hill?
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 08:28 am
@rosborne979,
heres a pic of the hornscope from 2007. If it was removed it was rther recent, perhaps during Sandy?
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Bell_Labs_Horn_Antenna_Crawford_Hill_NJ.jpg/250px-Bell_Labs_Horn_Antenna_Crawford_Hill_NJ.jpg
FBM
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 08:32 am
Wow. The above few exchanges just blew my mind.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 08:58 am
@FBM,
how so ?
rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 09:08 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

heres a pic of the hornscope from 2007. If it was removed it was rther recent, perhaps during Sandy?
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Bell_Labs_Horn_Antenna_Crawford_Hill_NJ.jpg/250px-Bell_Labs_Horn_Antenna_Crawford_Hill_NJ.jpg

Hmmm, I wonder if DNA Thumbs really knows where he lives? Smile

Anyway, if it's gone that's too bad. It did look a little run down, but I thought they would try to preserve something like that.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 09:15 am
@rosborne979,
ROAD TRIP!!!
rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 09:23 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
heres a pic of the hornscope from 2007. If it was removed it was rther recent, perhaps during Sandy?

The actual work took place on Crawford Hill, which is not located near the main Bell Labs complex, which was known to the local engineers as the "Black Box" facility.

Crawford Hill, and the Horn Antenna and the building where my father worked and where Bob worked is at 791 Holmdel Rd, Holmdel NJ. I just checked the Google Map for that area and I still see the Horn Antenna in the photo. Unfortunately there is no date on the photo. But it looks fairly recent. Maybe the antenna is still there and DNA Thumbs is simply looking in the wrong spot.

If I want to find out for sure I could Email Bob, I'm sure he would know if it's been removed for some reason.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 09:27 am
@rosborne979,
It was still there in May, at least it's in the background of pics from the 50th anniversary.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 09:27 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
ROAD TRIP!!!

Yes! Smile But any time I go down there I have to get in the brook and look for sharks teeth, so it may be better to wait until springtime.

The best time for Shark Teeth hunting is in June when the winter has had a chance to dislodge more sediment from the banks, but after the water levels have dropped enough from the snow melt so that the sand banks are exposed.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 09:29 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
It was still there in May, at least it's in the background of pics from the 50th anniversary.

I bet it's still there. DNA must be mistaken somehow. Maybe he's seeing something over at the Black Box facility.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 10:26 am
@rosborne979,
Quote:

The best time for Shark Teeth hunting is in June
Is this strem area Miocene age" or later?.
Im going up to the Pa gas fields next week to see some capping, and I was going to first visit a friend in Patterson nd then head west by rt6 > So Im already on the Joisey Toinpike. I may run over to the horn to see whats there.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 10:28 am
@rosborne979,
Don't tell Wilson bout Quahog, at least lets try to preserve SOME dignity with this site
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 10:31 am
@farmerman,
I just remembered, when we use the infinitive term " to cap" in New Jersey, it means something entirely different thn in the gas fields. Capping means to put a "lid" on a gas well and to seal it in place.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 01:03 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Is this strem area Miocene age" or later?

Late Cretaceous ~67-74 Million Years Old, Navesink (Maastrichtian) and Wenonah (Campanian) Formation
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 01:05 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Don't tell Wilson bout Quahog, at least lets try to preserve SOME dignity with this site

Don't worry. I try not to bother Bob with nonsense as much as possible Wink
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