OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 10:45 am

I think most guys just mind their own business. I do.





David
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maxdancona
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 10:48 am
@TheSubliminalKid,
TheSubliminalKid wrote:

Nobody's saying that but we need to realise that 99.9% of the time it's men that do it to women due to rape culture, internalised misogyny and this idea that women are just objects to be consumed by a male audience.

That's the truth.

It is a gendered issue.


Lol, 83.2% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Have you listened to what I am saying? The reason I reject feminism is its mythology, which judges every social interaction through the lens of men's oppression of women (I feel I am repeating myself, but you seem to be missing the point I am trying to make).

The term "rape culture" doesn't make any sense. This is dogma that is unsupported by science or fact. There is no basis to the claim that any of these behaviors, from bikini models to Beyonce to pornography to dancing causes rape. Rape is rape. Catcalling is not rape. Trying to say that catcalling is "rape culture" is nothing more than baseless propaganda.

You will have to explain to me what "internalized misogyny" means. I find it troubling that anyone would presume to judge someone's internal mind just because they disapprove of their behavior.

No one believes that women are "just objects to be consumed by a male audience".
ehBeth
 
  5  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 11:15 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

TheSubliminalKid wrote:
There's a difference between equality and... that. Whatever that was.
Tell us your gender ?



and what is the relevance of this demand to anything anywhere?
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 11:46 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

TheSubliminalKid wrote:
There's a difference between equality and... that. Whatever that was.
Tell us your gender ?



and what is the relevance of this demand to anything anywhere?
to ascertain which team she represents
and her life experience
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revelette2
 
  2  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 12:14 pm
Since she said she was called Cat while in a school uniform when she was 15, I think it is pretty safe to assume she is female. I don't think women are going to, never mind, I can't even say it. I'll just say I don't think women would do the same to young boys in public.

Why are men treating young 14 and 15 year olds as women out in the open as though nothing is wrong with it?
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 12:28 pm
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:
Since she said she was called Cat while in a school uniform when she was 15,
I think it is pretty safe to assume she is female.
She did not say that she was called Cat; she said that she was cat called.





David
Squeakybro
 
  1  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 12:34 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
And yet you took the time to complain.
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 12:35 pm
@Squeakybro,
Squeakybro wrote:
And yet you took the time to complain.
Yes, but not to bother reading it.
revelette2
 
  1  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 12:37 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Nevertheless, she can answer for herself, but I think it is pretty obvious she is a female. I thought it was pretty weird she was called cat. Embarrassed
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Squeakybro
 
  -3  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 12:38 pm
@izzythepush,
lol Now look what I get for posting the bible. Your not mad at me your mad at God. He is the one that said it all I done was to show it to you.

You should be directing this to God.
You're a bigot, a fascist
Squeakybro
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 12:40 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
That's Gods Word. Its your lose not mine if you don't know it.
Squeakybro
 
  -4  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 12:43 pm
Womens Lib

I was watching that 700 club awhile back and they said that all marriage sins are up by 800 percent now. And that the divorce rate is at 65 percent now. Does any of these women accept responsibility for this yet? Womens lib came out in the middle 70s and it is destroying the american family unit. Now they want to put a women in the white house and give her awhole lot of authority over a man. It looks like satan is having alot of fun with women now.

1 Tim 2:12-14
12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.
(NKJ)

1 Tim 5:6
6 But she who lives in pleasure is dead while she lives.
(NKJ)

Rom 14:22
22 Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.
(NKJ)

1 Cor 14:33-37
33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says.
35 And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.
36 Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached?
37 If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord.
(NKJ)

Eph 5:22-23
22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord.
23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body.
(NKJ)

Eph 5:24
24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
(NKJ)

Titus 2:3-6
3 the older women likewise, that they be reverent in behavior, not slanderers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things--
4 that they admonish the young women to love their husbands, to love their children,
5 to be discreet, chaste, homemakers, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be blasphemed.
6 Likewise exhort the young men to be sober-minded,
(NKJ)

And we know that a Christian can condemn themselves in what they approve. Like women in authority, homosexuals, puting children first. Men that agree with the womens lib have sold their birthright.

Gen 25:31-33
31 But Jacob said, "Sell me your birthright as of this day."
32 And Esau said, "Look, I am about to die; so what is this birthright to me?"
33 Then Jacob said, "Swear to me as of this day." So he swore to him, and sold his birthright to Jacob.
(NKJ)

Heb 12:16-17
16 lest there be any fornicator or profane person like Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birthright.
17 For you know that afterward, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought it diligently with tears.
(NKJ)

ehBeth
 
  5  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 12:48 pm
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:

Since she said she was called Cat


cat-called, not called Cat
revelette2
 
  1  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 12:56 pm
@ehBeth,
Yeah, I know now after embarrassing myself, but thanks, sometimes I get ahead of myself. Should slow down on those days..
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Squeakybro
 
  -4  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 12:58 pm
EMOTIONS2 (passions) UNCLEAN SPIRITS
Gal 5:1
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
Rom 7:8-25
8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead.
9 I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me.
12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.
13 Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful.
14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do.
16 If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good.
17 But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find.
19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice.
20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
21 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good.
22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?
25 I thank God-- through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.
Gal 5:16-24
16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Rom 1:25-26
25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
1 Cor 1:2-3
2 To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
3 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Gal 5:14-16
14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
15 But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another!
16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
John 3:3
3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
John 3:5-7
5 Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
6 "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 "Do not marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born again.'
Col 3:5-7
5 Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.
6 Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience,
7 in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them.
2 Cor 4:16-18
16 Therefore we do not lose heart. Even though our outward man is perishing, yet the inward man is being renewed day by day.
17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory,
18 while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal.
James 1:2-4
2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
1 Tim 6:7-9
7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
8 And having food and clothing, with these we shall be content.
9 But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition.
(NKJ)

xxx Many people think their emotions are helping them. And all they are doing is deceiving them. Then they build up to a big chastizement.


I Jn 4:6-12
6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.
10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.
(NKJ)

Matt 12:43-45
43 "When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none.
44 "Then he says, 'I will return to my house from which I came.' And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order.
45 "Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation."
(NKJ)


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OmSigDAVID
 
  3  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 01:05 pm
@Squeakybro,
Squeakybro wrote:
That's Gods Word. Its your lose not mine if you don't know it.
The likelihood of your posts being read
is better, if those posts r short.
Applying your argument, Y stop there?
Y not just read the whole Bible?????





David








izzythepush
 
  3  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 01:44 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
The reason I reject feminism is its mythology, which judges every social interaction through the lens of men's oppression of women (


In your head. I've never come across it.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 01:55 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

I am not "them", and you will not get a personal attack from me.


I've not attacked you either, and you have to admit that those on A2K arguing for the feminist agenda aren't a bunch of men hating harpies. However, you have BillRM, nononono, Hawkeye and a religious fundamentalist bigot. A more loathsome bunch you couldn't come across.

As a straw poll shouldn't it tell you that your fear of a Dworkinseque feminist agenda hijacking mainstream feminism is unfounded. At the same time above the rapist and paedophile apologist contingent show that misogyny is a real problem.

I think on this issue you're being paranoid. If you don't have a problem with equality and treating women with respect, you shouldn't have a problem with feminism.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 01:59 pm
@maxdancona,
On your video it's mostly men doing the harassing, which says a lot about the extent of the problem.
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maxdancona
 
  0  
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 02:05 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
As a straw poll shouldn't it tell you that your fear of a Dworkinseque feminist agenda hijacking mainstream feminism is unfounded.


I have no such fear. My problem is with mainstream feminism.

In my opinion, the mythology surrounding mainstream feminism has led to unfounded premises being accepted as fact and questionable policy choices being made.

The initial post is a very good description of my impression of modern mainstream feminism. And that is why, although I have no problem with equality and treating women with respect, I do absolutely have a problem with feminism. There is a lot more doctrine that goes along with feminism than just equality.

Why isn't equality and respect good enough?
 

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