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Prostitute or Decent Girl

 
 
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 05:47 pm
@Germlat,
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Yeah...the ones that don't have the skills to compete. Whatever they can do for themselves ....good for them.


Most of the women who are having casual sex have it with a small number of men. The majority of men apparently "don't have the skills to compete". Women are very selective in with whom they they have sex.

There are a very small number of lucky men who "have the skills to compete". That isn't the same for women, it is easy for most women to find a sexual partner for the night.

I have no judgement on that, but that is the way it is.


Germlat
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 05:50 pm
@maxdancona,
What are you saying women settle...cause there's a lot of them. Maybe men misunderstand what makes them appealing...hint: not money (for most).
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 05:58 pm
@Germlat,
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Maybe men misunderstand what makes them appealing...hint: not money (for most).


Actually, I do know what makes men appealing. The men that have casual sex with lots of women all are similar. They are tall, fit, have a full head of hair and yes... money certainly helps. It is not that hard to see who women flock to.

But please do tell what you think is appealing to most women.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 06:01 pm
@maxdancona,
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They are tall, fit, have a full head of hair and yes... money certainly helps.
Plus some appealing mix of charm and arrogance. The meak need not apply for the job of stud.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 06:03 pm
@hawkeye10,
... and sincerity is also important. The men who have learned to fake that really have it made.
Germlat
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 06:07 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Quote:
Maybe men misunderstand what makes them appealing...hint: not money (for most).


Actually, I do know what makes men appealing. The men that have casual sex with lots of women all are similar. They are tall, fit, have a full head of hair and yes... money certainly helps. It is not that hard to see who women flock to.

But please do tell what you think is appealing to most women.


I think you're wrong though...I hear what women say. And yes some will always go for the new, shiny, loud objects...but--don't be fooled. Most women simply want a substantial relationship with a guy they can trust...no matter how they seem.
FBM
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 06:12 pm
@Germlat,
Germlat wrote:

Who cares what a single individual finds disgusting?? My point is I'm ok with legalizing what floats your boat.


Yep. I agree. Wasn't criticizing you. Just stating my position. I used to find homosexuality disgusting, but over the years I've shed my homophobic upbringing and can see it as just another expression of human sexuality. I have no urge to express my own sexuality in that way, but it doesn't bother me in the least that others do.
Germlat
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 06:12 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

... and sincerity is also important. The men who have learned to fake that really have it made.


Also --just like you, many women think they cannot display some characteristics like intelligence ...many men find it intimidating....or independent or career oriented...go figure.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 06:16 pm
@Germlat,
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Most women simply want a substantial relationship with a guy they can trust...no matter how they seem.


"Trust" ya, to include "trust that my man will stand up to me when he needs to, he will not constantly take my ****".

Actually there was just a study on this. What women want most in a man is a man with a job.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/st-2014-09-24-never-married-03/

Pickings are getting slimmer.
Germlat
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 06:17 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:

Germlat wrote:

Who cares what a single individual finds disgusting?? My point is I'm ok with legalizing what floats your boat.


Yep. I agree. Wasn't criticizing you. Just stating my position. I used to find homosexuality disgusting, but over the years I've shed my homophobic upbringing and can see it as just another expression of human sexuality. I have no urge to express my own sexuality in that way, but it doesn't bother me in the least that others do.

I never said I found homosexuality disgusting! I find prostitution disgusting...I don't understand same sex attraction ...but I do get someone loving their partner as much as I love mine...so--I'm ok with it.
FBM
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 06:18 pm
@Germlat,
I didn't say that you said that. I was just using it as an example from my own experience. I should have made that clearer.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 06:33 pm
@Germlat,
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I never said I found homosexuality disgusting!


I once saw a very short gay males porn video clip and it have me almost throwing up.

I am all for gay civil rights but I do find the sex in homosexuality disgusting at least male homosexuality sex.

It take all kinds to make a world.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 06:53 pm
@Germlat,
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I think you're wrong though...I hear what women say. And yes some will always go for the new, shiny, loud objects...but--don't be fooled. Most women simply want a substantial relationship with a guy they can trust...no matter how they seem.


The premise of the thread was a man who wants sex without a substantial relationship.

When I say-- "free sex is the most expensive kind of sex", the implication is that a substantial relationship is a cost. Obviously, for a man who is at a stage of life where he actually wants a substantial relationship isn't a cost.. But there are lots of men who just want sex without the effort and responsibility of a relationship. And there are men who have to pretend to want a relationship just to get sex. Women don't have to do this.

My comments only apply to men or women who want sex without a substantial relationship.

Women who just want sex will have sex with a very small number of select men. Most men in this situation will have sex with any woman who is available (and most of them find it difficult since all the women are having sex the small group of elite desirable men).

The point is that men who just want sex without a relationship have a very different experience then women who just want sex.

I have been in this situation and I know what men get a lot of women to have casual sex with them. Height and muscles are very important. Money and the appearance of wealth is also important. Intelligence.... is not so important (or else us computer nerd types would get a lot more casual sex).

That is why men use prostitutes much more than women do.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 06:58 pm
@Germlat,
Germlat wrote:

What's being disputed exactly?


As I said...I do not know for sure.

But I suspect some people are challenging Max's contention that, for the most part, men and women treat casual sex differently.

I think he is dead on.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 07:09 pm
@maxdancona,
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Women who just want sex will have sex with a very small number of select men


That is certainly true now with the young. This is how we get a huge number of guys who never get the girl and a small group of guys who jump from bed to bed with the full knowledge of the women.

Quote:
I have been in this situation and I know what men get a lot of women to have casual sex with them. Height and muscles are very important. Money and the appearance of wealth is also important. Intelligence.... is not so important (or else us computer nerd types would get a lot more casual sex).

That is why men use prostitutes much more than women do.


there is a massage place near my restaurant, allegedly they do foot massage but actually they specialize in happy endings. They guys who go in there are a type...35-50, nondescript, and timid. They tend to park two buildings away and then do what we call the " walk of shame". THeir looks does not tend to run really bad, it is clearly their personalities that keep them from getting women thus the trips for paid blow jobs.
Germlat
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 07:12 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
Most women simply want a substantial relationship with a guy they can trust...no matter how they seem.


"Trust" ya, to include "trust that my man will stand up to me when he needs to, he will not constantly take my ****".

Actually there was just a study on this. What women want most in a man is a man with a job.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/st-2014-09-24-never-married-03/

Pickings are getting slimmer.

I can't speak for all women, but--yes I have worked for most of my life and a lazy man would be a no-no. But --yeah my man is tender when he needs to and is NO pushover...then, I'm not either. He's actually a little harsh sometimes.....were still working things out. But...I get what I need.
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Germlat
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 07:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
I saw several "massage parlors" crop up in a suspicious area. I told my husband...watch there's something not right. There was a bust. The women where being trafficked (from Eastern Europe) and tricked into and forced into prostitution. Beautiful girls forced to live in tiny spaces(within the massage parlor's attic).. With no air conditioning ( it's hot/humid here). In an interview one was shaking so much , her lips trembled...ugh. Yeah...the American dream.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 07:26 pm
@Germlat,
I really dont get how they operate...bikini barista's here are getting busted for prostitution (and the stand owners) right and left for showing their tits for $5 yet these asian girls never get bothered by the law for their handjobs and blowjobs. One is out in the open and one is behind closed doors is all I can figure.
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Germlat
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 07:26 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Germlat wrote:

What's being disputed exactly?


As I said...I do not know for sure.

But I suspect some people are challenging Max's contention that, for the most part, men and women treat casual sex differently.

I think he is dead on.


I'm not so sure anymore Frank.. I think things are changing. I hear and see things that are very different from the "traditional"
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2014 07:50 pm
@Germlat,
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I'm not so sure anymore Frank.. I think things are changing.


I don't know why you think things are changing, or what experience you have on the matter. I am a newly single, rather average looking, middle-aged computer nerd. I have rather recent experience on the matter.

On the other hand, believe me when I tell you I really wish you right Germlat. I am sure we both agree it would be better world if I could get casual sex without having to put in the effort required for a relationship as easily as an average woman can.


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