Fergusonj shooting, autopsy in, all shots from front

Has the gun used been identified ?

Has the gun used been identified ?

Not that I know of, but I don't think the precise model makes a difference to the point I made. Any model that police officers are likely to carry can fire six rounds before the person they shoot can move very far.

An officer is trained to shoot to kill...(aim at the body mass)...IF shooting is necessary.

To shoot as often as the officer did at Brown...SEEMS excessive to me...

Its hard to get real facts I can trust.

Michael Brown's autopsy: What it can (and can't) tell us
By Stephanie Pappas
Livescience.com
August 21, 2014
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-browns-autopsy-what-it-can-and-cant-tell-us/

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An officer is trained to shoot to kill...(aim at the body mass)...IF shooting is necessary.

To shoot as often as the officer did at Brown...SEEMS excessive to me...

If the use of deadly force isn't justified, even one shot is excessive.

The officer who shot Brown was not aiming to kill with his first few shots, he shot him in the arm. The fatal shot was one fired at the head. At no time did he aim at Brown's body mass.

What transpired before any shots were fired is not at all clear. I've listened to alleged eyewitnesses who contradict each other, and in some cases contradict themselves, as they give different interviews.

What's needed in this situation now is more calm and patience. While I can certainly understand the anger and outrage that erupted in the wake of this shooting, a good deal of which was related to pent-up long-standing grievances, emotion should now give way to the methodical legal process of thoroughly investigating this death, and that investigation should be unhurried and unbiased. Hopefully, Eric Holder's visit to Ferguson yesterday will help to bring that about, since his presence alone was an indication of how seriously the situation is regarded.

The official autopsy by the county coroner is still awaiting toxicology results and it has yet to be released, there have been no official documents or reports confirming whether or not the police officer sustained injuries from Brown, results of forensic tests on Brown's clothing, and on the officer's clothing and gun, have yet to be made known, and witnesses continue to come forward, so the evidence is nowhere complete enough for anyone to jump to conclusions yet.

Simply because the victim was unarmed doesn't mean the officer didn't have reason to fear for his life, if he was physically assaulted by someone who was 6' 4 and just slightly under 300 pounds, who was reaching for his gun.

Even a possible indictment is going to take time--the Grand Jury in that area only meets once a week. They are predicting it may take until October for a decision to be reached.

I think the media needs to back off from their constant extensive coverage in Ferguson because their presence encourages the continued disruption of normal life because all parties start behaving and performing for the cameras. In that way, the media contributes to creating a situation and not just reporting on it. Meanwhile, children can't attend school, businesses can't open or repair damage, etc..

It's going to take time for all the evidence to emerge, and for the legal process to take its course. Patience is needed.

In my area we have one newspaper which is a Fax clone. Takes me about 5 min to read it. Some of the news comes from TV, not fax news. Most of the news I get comes from my computer which I have to take with a grain of salt what with people having a tendency to spout their opinions so I wade through a lot of it and put my trust in very few so called reporters. Its hard to get real facts I can trust.

Jaywalking? Most of what you said has merit except the jaywalking bit. Even the kid with him said they were walking down the middle of the street. How about practicing that honesty you preach so often.

The two young men were walking down the street...in disregard of traffic laws.

That does not change my mind about the six bullets seeming to be excessive.

Frank Apisa wrote:

The two young men were walking down the street...in disregard of traffic laws.

That does not change my mind about the six bullets seeming to be excessive.

The victim (i.e., the guy with the fx eyesocket)
was logically and legally justified in ending the threat.

If he had continued gunfire into the threat AFTER it was over,
(e.g., if the threat were lying dead in the street), then I 'd agree
that it seems excessive and wasteful.


As a practical matter, chances r that the entire event
of charging at the victim (with defensive gunfire) took less than a second
and the defensive gunshots were probably discharged in a volley.

It 'd be no surprize (human emotions being what we know them to be),
if the victim fully exhausted his ammunition in that magazine within a fraction of a second.

David

jay·walk
ˈjāˌwôk/
verb
North American
gerund or present participle: jaywalking

cross or walk in the street or road unlawfully or without regard for approaching traffic.