The Be-heading was staged?

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On Bernie Ward- KGO Radio

A frame by frame analysis by a scientfic crew determined it to be fake.
Theres a frame in it where a guy with a us military cap sticks his head out real quick--only can be noticed in slow motion frame by frame-


http://www.aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm

For the sake of discussion let's say the beheading and the video are fakes.

They've gotten away with it because the majority of people will want to believe its real because the thought of their own government and people doing something so horrific right out in the open is more than the general public can process and stand. Even if they smell a rat in their heart of hearts they will never actually admit it.

This is a weapon that costs nothing and is highly effective.

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As I stated earlier. The majority of Americans never question what the mass Media reports. Bush and Right Wingers are using this event for their purposes.

Black Ops and Psy Ops have been used many times by the CIA and other agencies and they have gotten away with them, as far as I am aware of.

That's true. Psy Ops are masters of deception.

Just the picture of the group before the behead looks staged. Sort of like the cover of The Inquirer or The Star and other tabloid mags who mislead us by putting the face of a famous person on the body of another in a compromising situation.

It was staged. By them. They were posing for the camera while reading their statement. Then they murdered Berg.

Joanne, deecups, pistoff:

I read a short piece a week ago that claimed devout Islamics don't wear gold rings. In fact, they're forbidden by Allah to do so.

Anyway, one of Berg's captures can clearly be seen wearing what appears to be a gold ring.

Just more oddities in an already odd story.

Infowarrior, It has been demonstrated time and again that devout Islamics don't murder innocent civilians either.

What's this guy doing wearing gold rings?



He's Ayatollah Mohammed Baqer al-Hakim, assinated leader of the Supreme Assembly of the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SAIRI) and formerly Iraq's best-known Shiite Muslim politician.

There are several references on the web about not wearing jewelry being a part of Islam but there are also a number of pics of Ayatollahs doing just that. Apparently the hard abd fast rule goes away when you've made your way up the food chain.

...or this guy?



BTW, it's Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Husaini Sistani

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Pistoff, The Berg media was a video as I think you have mentioned several times. How then do you do a frame by frame analysis of a video, which is a continuous stream reproduction, as your source claims? Only film is reproduced by frame (discrete individual pictures). If you try and limit video to a short time segment, say 1/16 of a second or 1/32 of a second, which are the time segments for most film frames, all you get is a blur. I would suggest that it is more likely that your source is a fraud as the "scientific crew" seem unaware of the crucial distinction between video and film.

A streaming media video can't be broken down to individual frames but a standard videotape can be.
MPEG videos can also be examined frame by frame but as it's compressed there isn't sufficient detail.

Hey Fishin, the rings worn are silver not gold. It is permissible for men to wear silver rings and for women to wear silver and gold rings, but with the condition that it does not resemble a wedding ring. They will also be worn on the small finger and NOT on the western "ring finger".

The Berg film was a gold wedding ring.

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Al Q. has usually sent their Videos and tapes to Al Jazrea Media, not posted them on the Net. I have seen still shots of this Video and am becoming more convinced that this Video was produced by amateurs mercs.

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Yes, its true Pistoff...

The heavyset one on the right is actually Elvis. Also present are Jim Morrison, Rambo and Sasquatch (after a severe Nair treatment)
[Look for this article in the Enquirer next week ]

Some people will believe anything.

pistoff:

I think you're a valuable forum member, but sometimes, the things that come out of your mouth! I like some raunchy exchanges, but TMI, TMI!

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While it might not be strictly accurate to refer to it as frame-by-frame, you can certainly take digital video in either MPEG1 or MPEG2 format and move through it at the appropriate rate (1/30th of a second for example) which is analogous to frame-by-frame examination. I do tons of digital video and do it all the time and there is no blur (unless the blur exists in the original video feed). I can pick out precise points in the video where scenes change, etc.

Beheading suspects 'led by Saddam's nephew'
Beheading suspects 'led by Saddam's nephew'
Luke Harding in Baghdad
Saturday May 22, 2004
The Guardian

The mystery of who killed Nick Berg, the freelance contractor beheaded on video, took a new twist last night when Iraqi police claimed they had arrested four suspects with links to Saddam Hussein's family.
Iraqi security officials said Berg's alleged killers were part of a group led by a close relative of Saddam - his nephew Yasser al-Sabawi.

The men were seized a week ago after a tip-off, they said. All were former members of the Fedayeen Saddam, the para military group notorious for its loyalty to Iraq's ex-president.

But last night the US military spokesman, Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, said American forces had arrested four men linked to the Berg case after a raid in Baghdad. Two had been released and two were still being questioned.

He said: '"I don't know their prior affiliations or prior organisations. We have some intelligence that would suggest they have knowledge, perhaps some culpability."

It was not clear whether the two raids were related. The contradictory revelations add to the confusion in the circumstances surrounding the kidnapping and execution of Berg, who disappeared after checking out of his Baghdad hotel on April 10.

In a video released last week Berg is shown sitting in an orange jumpsuit in front of five masked and armed men. One of them declares that his killing is in revenge for the abuse of prisoners by US guards at Abu Ghraib. The same man then draws a long knife and cuts off Berg's head.

The CIA claimed there was a "high probability" that Abu Musab al-Zaqawi, a Jordanian extremist with links to al-Qaida, was the masked man who beheaded Berg in a murder recorded and broadcast over the internet.

Yesterday, however, the trail appeared to lead instead to Saddam's hometown of Tikrit. Iraqi officials said the men had been arrested in Salaheddin province, which includes Tikrit, shortly after Berg's headless body was dumped last week near a Baghdad flyover.

Al-Sabawi was not among those arrested, the Iraqi official said. Police intelligence agents seized the men as they arrived to "plot other major operations", the officer told the Associated Press, without elaborating.

Four suspects had arrived early for the 7pm meeting and were inside the house, waiting for a fifth associate who escaped arrest, he said.

The Iraqi police appear to have done a poor job of protecting their informant, who was killed by unidentified gunmen the following day, the official admitted. Police seized weapons and explosives at the scene. Last night the suspects were believed to be still in Iraqi hands.

The case is extremely sensitive, with news of the apparent arrests leaking after days of rumours.

The uncertainty surrounding Berg's kidnapping intensified after US officials confirmed the FBI had questioned him three times after his arrest in the northern city of Mosul.

US occupation authorities have denied he was ever in American custody during his two weeks in detention there. But this week Berg's parents released an email from an American diplomat which confirmed he had been held by the US military and was "safe".

Amazing news if it holds up to scrutiny.

Father says 'Nick Berg Was a Soldier of Peace'
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-berg23may23,0,2298679.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

COMMENTARY
'Nick Berg Was a Soldier of Peace'
'My son's ... work still goes on.'

May 23, 2004

Michael Berg is the father of Nicholas Berg, the American contractor who was beheaded in Iraq. The following is excerpted from a letter he sent to be read on Saturday at the Stop the War Coalition demonstration in London.
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When I eulogized my son, Nick, I said that he was my teacher and my hero. He was the kindest, gentlest man I know ?- no, the kindest, gentlest human being I know or have ever known. Did you know that he quit the Boy Scouts of America because they wanted to teach him to fire a handgun? Nick, too, poured into me the strength I needed and still need to tell the world about him.

People ask me why I focus on putting the blame for my son's tragic and atrocious end on the Bush administration. They ask: "Don't you blame the five men who killed him?" I have answered that I blame them no more or less than the Bush administration, but I am wrong: I am sure, knowing my son, that somewhere during their association with him these men became aware of what an extraordinary man my son was. I take comfort in the fact that when they did the awful thing they did, they weren't quite as into it as they might have been.

I am sure that they came to admire him. I am sure that the one who wielded the knife felt Nick's breath upon his hand and knew that he had a real human being there. I am sure that the others looked into my son's eyes and got at least just a glimmer of what the rest of the world sees. And I am sure that these murderers, for just a brief moment, did not like what they were doing.

But George Bush never looked into my son's eyes. George Bush doesn't know my son. And he is the worse for it. George Bush, though a father himself, cannot feel my pain nor that of my family or the world who grieve for Nick, because he is a policymaker, and he doesn't have to bear the consequences of his acts. George Bush can see neither the heart of Nicholas nor the American people ?- let alone the people his policies are killing daily.

Donald Rumsfeld said that he took the responsibility for the sexual abuse of Iraqi prisoners. How could he take that responsibility when there was no consequence? Nick took the consequences of the policies both stated and given with a wink and a nod by the Bush administration. And, even more than those murderers who took my son's life, I can't stand those who sit and make policies to end lives and break the lives of the still living.

Nick was not in the military, but he was a soldier. He had the discipline and dedication of a soldier. But Nick Berg was a soldier of peace in Iraq [who went] to help the people without any expectation of personal gain. The trouble was he was only one man. But through his death he has become many.

So what were we to do when we in America were attacked on Sept. 11, that infamous day? I say we should have done then what we never did before: Stop speaking to the people we labeled our enemies and start listening to them. Stop giving preconditions to our peaceful coexistence on this small planet, and start honoring and respecting every human's need to live free and autonomously, to truly respect the sovereignty of every state whether it be Israel, or Palestine, or Iraq. To stop making up rules by which others must live ?- and then separate rules for ourselves.

George Bush's ineffective leadership is a weapon of mass destruction and it has allowed a chain reaction of events that lead to the unlawful detention of my son. That detention immersed my son in a world of escalated violence [and] were it not for his detention I would have had him in my arms again. That detention held him in Iraq not only until the atrocities that led to the siege of Fallouja, but to the revelation of the atrocities committed in the jails in Iraq in retaliation for which my son's wonderful life was put to and end.

My son's life was put to an end, but his work still goes on. Where there was one peacemaker before I now see and have heard from thousands of peacemakers. And for every one of them there are thousands more who can't find the words but feel the same way. We the people of this world now need to act on our beliefs. We need to let the evildoers on both sides of the Atlantic know that we are fed up with war.

We are fed up with the killing and bombing and maiming of innocent people. We are fed up with the lies from our government about Nick's detention and we are fed up with the lies from our government about the reasons for this war. Yes, we are fed up with the suicide bombers, and with the failure of the Israelis and Palestinians to find a way to stop killing each other. We are fed up with negotiations and peace conferences that are entered into on both sides with preset conditions that preclude the outcome of peace. Many people have offered to pray for Nick and my family. I appreciate their thoughts, but I ask them to include in their prayers a prayer for peace. I ask them to do more than pray. I ask them to demand it from the politicians and leaders in the White House and in the statehouses across the world and in the mountain camps where they may hide. And let them know that if you don't get it, they aren't going to work for you as their leaders any more.