I thought it "looked" staged - but, given the discovery of a body, must have been real.
Probably, I just hoped it was staged.
All horrid stuff looks staged now, cos of damned movie special effects.
The sound was very weird, though.
The body
I have seen various news reports and none so far have questioned this event. From various accounts Berg was dead when his head was cut off. Who reported the dicovery of the body? How do we know that was Berg's body? I do not take the word of the Govt. for anything anymore. They are proven liars. The family has numerous emails but hasn't released them.
fealola -- according to news reports, Berg was detained because of some irregularity in his passport (no visa stamp??). The US government maintains that he was detained by the Iraqi police, not by American authorities, that after he was released by the Iraqis, he was advised to leave Iraq by the Americans but disdained to do so. This is in contrast with what Berg's family says. They claimed it was Americans who detained him. Go figure.
Good distraction for Bush and another reason to inflame the public and be brave by promising to seek and find the perps so the US can take revenge.
John what is the buzz around town, D.C., I mean?
I just heard Rumsfield beat feet out of town and is in Baghdad today.
Are there any good Rummy jokes making the rounds?
A few things that an objective look at the video will show......
Why is there practically no blood? Blood should be spurting everywhere ala a fire hose.
Why is this large well built almost body builder of a man not violently struggling?
Why does the quality of the video get worse and worse?
Why does this man NOT look like the pictures his parents supplied?
Why do his screams sound dubbed in?
It has been suggested that there is an 11 hour gap between the speech and the beheading on the tape, and that perhaps he was already dead. The video evidence, IMO supports that.
Have you ever gashed yourself really badly? I have, and the blood flew everywhere....hard and fast......the beheading, not the clean beheading but the messy sawing off of an alive and struggling man through the JUGULAR.....it should have looked like someone turned on a blood fire hose...walls, people, floor everything.....covered. None of that.
The more you examine this whole situation the more something stinks.
Maybe he was already dead when they beheaded him. That would be a mercy I suppose, of some sort.
Something isn't right about the whole thing that's my opinion, and the main thing that isn't right is what his family is going through.
Right BPB his family seems desperate to get his story out but even their story seems odd.
How does anyone with a US passport simply hop a plane to Iraq. Which airlines are making regular flights?
I offer this link with no opinion.....just something to look at....and I don't mean more grisly video...
http://www.breakfornews.com/NickBergEnemiesList.htm
hi JoanneDorel- Honey, I think you hit the nail on the head! How convenient for the neocons on the right now. They have their "symbol" to hold up and justify the brutal treatment of the Abu Ghraib prisoners.
They can all say "there, see how these horrible Iraqis are?"
But, back to the practical issue here, as Iraq is closed to everyone, the question remains, how did he as a civilian gain access? He had to have had clearance from someone in the Bush administration. Even the FBI didn't know he was in Iraq -- a country at war.
Are you f@cking kidding me with this crap?
Deecups36 wrote:How convenient for the neocons on the right now.
Merry andrew wrote:For another, the timing is way too convenient.
Infowarrior wrote:Anyway, I'm sure it's all a coincidence, or Clinton's fault, or the usual "blah, blah, blah" from the right. But, the pieces of the puzzle don't add up.
JoanneDorel wrote:Good distraction for Bush and another reason to inflame the public and be brave by promising to seek and find the perps so the US can take revenge.
John Webb wrote:An incredibly helpful atrocity, even better, captured on video at just the time when the Administration desperately needed other news to divert the publicity away from Bush's torture chambers and generate more public support for the pro-war agenda.
I honestly can't believe some of the crap you guys come up with. You really need to re-examine your priorities and hatreds.
McGentrix wrote:Are you f@cking kidding me with this crap?
Deecups36 wrote:How convenient for the neocons on the right now.
Merry andrew wrote:For another, the timing is way too convenient.
Infowarrior wrote:Anyway, I'm sure it's all a coincidence, or Clinton's fault, or the usual "blah, blah, blah" from the right. But, the pieces of the puzzle don't add up.
JoanneDorel wrote:Good distraction for Bush and another reason to inflame the public and be brave by promising to seek and find the perps so the US can take revenge.
John Webb wrote:An incredibly helpful atrocity, even better, captured on video at just the time when the Administration desperately needed other news to divert the publicity away from Bush's torture chambers and generate more public support for the pro-war agenda.
I honestly can't believe some of the crap you guys come up with. You really need to re-examine your priorities and hatreds.
Who died and made you The Church Lady?
The same person that left you in charge of the John Birch Society.
McGentrix wrote:The same person that left you in charge of the John Birch Society.
Even for you Mr. Limpit, that was a really lame response. If you insist on dueling, at least come to the fight armed....
No need to fight. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Frankly, I felt it was 'suspicious' from the getgo. And how timely. Coincidence? Not hardly.
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:McGentrix wrote:The same person that left you in charge of the John Birch Society.
Even for you Mr. Limpit, that was a really lame response. If you insist on dueling, at least come to the fight armed....
I am just trying to keep it fair for you.
Bi-Polar,
Please do not engage the troublemakers, as the structure here will result in a perfectly good thread being locked to all instead of the person causing the trouble being locked out.
I have seen this sort of favouritism time and time again on able2know.
Coincidence or conspiracy, the administration were the only beneficiary of such an apparent atrocity being shown across America. The losers being the victim and Al-Kaeda.