Can you believe what this idiot GOP Sen. said?

How shocking!! I guess that Senator Inhof can be called an idiot, a moron and a whacko but calling Arab murderers, murderers and towel heads is somehow disallowed. I don't understand. People who murder our citizens are to be treated with the utmost verbal courtesy but a US Senator, who expresses his opinion, is an idiot, a moron and a whacko.

GENEVA - Intelligence officers of the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq estimated that 70 percent to 90 percent of Iraqi detainees were arrested by mistake, the Red Cross said in a report that was disclosed Monday, and Red Cross observers witnessed U.S. officers mistreating Abu Ghraib prisoners by keeping them naked in total darkness in empty cells.

Abuse was, "in some cases, tantamount to torture," it said.

Torin Nelson, who served as a military intelligence officer at Guantánamo Bay before moving to Abu Ghraib as a private contractor last year, says "many of the detainees at the prison are actually innocent of any acts against the coalition and are being held until the bureaucracy there can go through their cases and verify their need to be released."

"One case in point is a detainee whom I recommended for release and months later was still sitting in the same tent with no change in his status."

"There are people who should never have been sent over there. I was involved in the process of reviewing people for possible release and I can say definitely that they should have been released and released a lot sooner,"

"A unit goes out on a raid and they have a target and the target is not available; they just grab anybody because that was their job,"

"The troops are under a lot of stress and they don't know one guy from the next. They're not cultural experts. All they want is to count down the days and hopefully go home. They take it out on the nearest person they can't understand."

"I've read reports from capturing units where the capturing unit wrote, "the target was not at home. The neighbour came out to see what was going on and we grabbed him,"

"Now, whether the detainees are put into the general intelligence holding area, where they rot for a few months until final release, or if they are placed in solitary confinement because their story seems unbelievable is completely in the hands of the interrogator's opinion,"

"It is in solitary that the abuses can be committed. So, in theory it is in fact very possible that purely innocent Iraqis could be placed in an environment where they could be brutalised, abused, "softened up" or even killed."

"At Abu Ghraib there were plenty of detainees talking or wanting to talk, but the leadership was focused on the "hard" targets of high-value,"

"This was mainly because the leadership was almost completely focused on getting the highest ranking Ba'ath party members still in hiding.And many of the interrogators were anxious to "go after" the difficult eggs. They wanted to be the one interrogator who broke the linking detainee and found such and such high value target. They weren't interested in going through the less glamorous work of sifting through the chaff to get to the kernels of truth from the willing detainees, they were interested in "breaking" the tough targets."

"Once you get up to a level of NCO [non commissioned officer] or warrant officer you generally get moved into administration. You are taken out of working as an interrogator,"

"I'd say about of the contractors that it's kind of a hit or miss. They're under so much pressure to fill slots quickly ... They penalise contracting companies if they can't fill slots on time and it looks bad on companies' records,"

"All it takes is the signature of a low ranking NCO to send someone right around the world and have them locked up indefinitely but it takes the signature of the secretary of defence to let them go."

Senator Inhofe was called an idiot not because he is an American or a US senator. Senator Inhofe is ignorant because most of the prisoners in Abu Ghraib were innocent. 70-90 percent of the Abu Ghraib prisoners were innocent according to coalition military intelligence officers in a 24 page Red Cross report.

NO WHERE does it say that 70-90% of the detainees at Abu Ghraib were arrested by mistake. It says that 70-90% of Iraqi's arrested in general were done so mistakingly. It's clever how they manipulate that fact for those that want to believe the worst for the US.

Now, Sen. Inhof is not the only one who looks like an idiot.

"These prisoners, you know they're not there for traffic violations," Inhofe said. "If they're in cellblock 1-A or 1-B, these prisoners, they're murderers, they're terrorists, they're insurgents. Many of them probably have American blood on their hands and here we're so concerned about the treatment of those individuals."

The 372nd company commander was Donald J. Reese, 39, a salesman from New Stanton, Pa. His unit was given perhaps the most sensitive mission: control of Tier 1A, where "high priority" detainees were held for interrogation by civilian and military intelligence officers. The 203 cells of Tiers 1A and 1B were in a two-story cinderblock building known as the "hard site" at Abu Ghraib, so called to distinguish it from the many tent compounds on the prison grounds. 1B held "high risk" or trouble-making detainees.

GENEVA - Intelligence officers of the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq estimated that 70 percent to 90 percent of Iraqi detainees were arrested by mistake, the Red Cross said in a report that was disclosed Monday, and Red Cross observers witnessed U.S. officers mistreating Abu Ghraib prisoners by keeping them naked in total darkness in empty cells.

Abuse was, "in some cases, tantamount to torture," it said.

GENEVA -- A Red Cross report disclosed today said coalition intelligence officers estimated that 70-90 percent of Iraqi detainees were arrested by mistake and said Red Cross observers witnessed U.S. officers mistreating Abu Ghraib prisoners by keeping them naked in total darkness in empty cells.

Senator 'Outraged by Outrage' at Prison Abuse
Tue May 11, 2004 11:33 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - As others condemned the reported abuse of Iraqi prisoners, U.S. Sen. James Inhofe on Tuesday expressed outrage at the worldwide outrage over the treatment by American soldiers of those he called "terrorists" and "murderers."

"I'm probably not the only one up at this table that is more outraged by the outrage than we are by the treatment," the Oklahoma Republican said at a U.S. Senate hearing probing the scandal.

"These prisoners, you know they're not there for traffic violations," Inhofe said. "If they're in cellblock 1-A or 1-B, these prisoners, they're murderers, they're terrorists, they're insurgents. Many of them probably have American blood on their hands and here we're so concerned about the treatment of those individuals."

Coalition military intelligence officers estimated that about 70 percent to 90 percent of the thousands of prisoners detained in Iraq had been "arrested by mistake," according to a report by Red Cross given to the Bush administration last year and leaked this week.

The report also said the mistreatment of prisoners apparently tolerated by U.S. and other coalition forces in Iraq involved widespread abuse that was "in some cases tantamount to torture."

In heated remarks at odds with others on the Senate committee who took aim at the U.S. military's handling of prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad, Inhofe said that American sympathies should lie with U.S. troops.

"I am also outraged that we have so many humanitarian do-gooders right now crawling all over these prisons looking for human rights violations, while our troops, our heroes are fighting and dying," he said.

Inhofe, who visited Iraq in March, is described on his senatorial Web site as a leading conservative voice in the Senate, advocating "common sense Oklahoma values including less government, less regulation, lower taxes, fiscal responsibility and a strong national defense."
Reuters 2004.

Senator Inhofe was called an idiot not because he is an American or a US senator. Senator Inhofe is ignorant because most of the prisoners in Abu Ghraib were innocent. 70-90 percent of the Abu Ghraib prisoners were innocent according to coalition military intelligence officers in a 24 page Red Cross report.

NO WHERE does it say that 70-90% of the detainees at Abu Ghraib were arrested by mistake. It says that 70-90% of Iraqi's arrested in general were done so mistakingly. It's clever how they manipulate that fact for those that want to believe the worst for the US.

Wow, I'm not the only one that made a connection to the Senator Inhofe statement with the Red Cross report. Reuters, which dates all the way back to its foundation in 1851, refers to Senator Inhofe's comments and the Red Cross report back to back. Reuters, a prestigious and credible news agency that spans the globe in 200 cities in 94 countries, seem to concur with my own opinion. You see, my belief and posts are not idiotic. They are common sense to those who can process facts correctly.

Intelligence officers of the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq estimated that 70 percent to 90 percent of Iraqi detainees were arrested by mistake,

A Red Cross report disclosed today said coalition intelligence officers estimated that 70-90 percent of Iraqi detainees were arrested by mistake

Coalition military intelligence officers estimated that about 70 percent to 90 percent of the thousands of prisoners detained in Iraq had been "arrested by mistake," according to a report by Red Cross given to the Bush administration last year and leaked this week.

NONE OF THESE SUPPORT YOUR SUPPOSTION!

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NONE OF THESE SUPPORT YOUR SUPPOSTION!

Look, I'm not going to explain it to you again. If you read the Reuters article, it doesn't get any clearer than that. I'm not going to bend over backwards explaining to you how statistics and estimates work. I'm sure you can find someone here to explain it to you. I'm sorry if you can't understand it. I made my point. The facts support me. My posts were meant for intelligent people who are not die hard Bush apologists. It was never intended for you and your friends. The facts simply speak for itself. Try again next time, bud.

F&B claims that 70-90% of the prisoners that were in Abu Ghraib were there by mistake because that's what the Red Cross report says. I am pointing out that that is NOT what the report says, but that it is stating that 70-90% of ALL the prisoners arrested in Iraq were done so mistakingly. The report does not mention who was detained where or for how long.

McGentrix writes

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F&B claims that 70-90% of the prisoners that were in Abu Ghraib were there by mistake because that's what the Red Cross report says. I am pointing out that that is NOT what the report says, but that it is stating that 70-90% of ALL the prisoners arrested in Iraq were done so mistakingly. The report does not mention who was detained where or for how long.

If you read the actual Red Cross documents, it does mention Abu Ghraib and the length to which they were detained. Try again next time, bud.

¶ 37 The evidence indicates that Ford employees sometimes referred to their African-Canadian co-workers as "nigger," "little nigger," "lazy nigger," "Black bastard" and "boy." Other employees were variously referred to as "Paki," "Frog," "Polack," "Wop," "Spic," "wet-back," "square-head," "towel-head" and "pull-start" [the latter three terms ostensibly in reference to individuals who wore turbans]. When workers were given a job assignment they didn't like, a common retort was "What am I, your ******* nigger?" Work considered demeaning was often labelled "nigger work;" repairs improperly completed were described as "nigger rigging." A number of witnesses testified that such language was so much a part of the working environment that employees said these things in the presence of supervisors. One supervisor testified that "you never took note" of such terms, "people joked about it and you went about your business." The racial language would "just basically go over my head," he noted, "unless there was some indication that there was some malicious intent and somebody, you know, didn't like it or was being hurt by it". Occasionally some supervisors verbally admonished those involved, but overwhelmingly this sort of terminology was tolerated without adverse comment.

We took 120,000 Japanese Americans - two thirds were citizens of the United States - and locked them up during World War II. We put them inside barbed-wire fencing; we didn't strip them of their clothes - we stripped them of their dignity; took them from their homes; caused many to lose their businesses, because we could not take a chance that any one of them might hurt us. None did, but we still couldn't take that chance . . . we were at war.

How shocking!! I guess that Senator Inhof can be called an idiot, a moron and a whacko but calling Arab murderers, murderers and towel heads is somehow disallowed. I don't understand. People who murder our citizens are to be treated with the utmost verbal courtesy but a US Senator, who expresses his opinion, is an idiot, a moron and a whacko.