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To Whom Is George Zimmerman a Hero? And Why?

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 02:12 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:


Frank Apisa wrote:
To Whom Is George Zimmerman a Hero?
To the very sick...to the hate-filled mentally disturbed.
Why?
Because they are sick...because they are hate-filled and mentally disturbed.

It should be noted that every single thing that Frank Apisa ever says is, without exception, always an outright lie.



Still trying that tired, old line, Oralloy.

Anyway...the people for whom George Zimmerman is a hero are, for the most part, sick, hate-filled, mentally disturbed individuals.

You think him to be a hero, right, Oralloy? Wink
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 02:25 pm
@Frank Apisa,
oralloy wrote:


Frank Apisa wrote:
To Whom Is George Zimmerman a Hero?
To the very sick...to the hate-filled mentally disturbed.
Why?
Because they are sick...because they are hate-filled and mentally disturbed.

It should be noted that every single thing that Frank Apisa ever says is, without exception, always an outright lie.



Frank Apisa wrote:
Still trying that tired, old line, Oralloy.

Anyway...the people for whom George Zimmerman is a hero are,
for the most part, sick, hate-filled, mentally disturbed individuals.

You think him to be a hero, right, Oralloy? Wink
IF I felt sick, then I 'd get medical help. When I feel sick, I do that.
"Hate" WHAT????? I don t feel a need for hating,
but I admire Zimmy. I hope to meet him.
I almost met him at a gun show in Florida,
but I was too late; i.e., when I found out about it,
it was over. He was there. I did not know, in time.
There will be more gun shows. I 'm an optimist.
I 'd invite him to a fine dinner n give him some gunnery advice. No hating, just eating good food.

Maybe we can get in some fun target practice.
I 'd let him try my .44 revolver.
I might even GIVE it to him.





David
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 02:32 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

oralloy wrote:


Frank Apisa wrote:
To Whom Is George Zimmerman a Hero?
To the very sick...to the hate-filled mentally disturbed.
Why?
Because they are sick...because they are hate-filled and mentally disturbed.

It should be noted that every single thing that Frank Apisa ever says is, without exception, always an outright lie.



Frank Apisa wrote:
Still trying that tired, old line, Oralloy.

Anyway...the people for whom George Zimmerman is a hero are,
for the most part, sick, hate-filled, mentally disturbed individuals.

You think him to be a hero, right, Oralloy? Wink
IF I felt sick, then I 'd get medical help. When I feel sick, I do that.
"Hate" WHAT????? I don t feel a need for hating,
but I admire Zimmy. I hope to meet him.
I almost met him at a gun show in Florida,
but I was too late; i.e., when I found out about it,
it was over. He was there. I did not know, in time.
There will be more gun shows. I 'm an optimist.
I 'd invite him to a fine dinner n give him some gunnery advice. No hating, just eating good food.

Maybe we can get in some fun target practice.
I 'd let him try my .44 revolver.
I might even GIVE it to him.

David


I repeat:

The people for whom George Zimmerman is a hero are,
for the most part, sick, hate-filled, mentally disturbed individuals.


You obviously consider him a hero, David...and you have to decide if you are part of the "most"...or just an aberration within the "Zimmerman is a Hero" contingent.

oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 02:59 pm
@OmSigDAVID,

Frank Apisa wrote:
Still trying that tired, old line, Oralloy.

I'm not a dishonest scumball, Frank. I never tire of telling the truth.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 03:13 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:


Frank Apisa wrote:
Still trying that tired, old line, Oralloy.

I'm not a dishonest scumball, Frank. I never tire of telling the truth.


You are a small-time player, Oralloy...good for laughs.

You are to "the truth"...what FOX News is to news! ;
)
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 03:40 pm
@Frank Apisa,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

oralloy wrote:


Frank Apisa wrote:
To Whom Is George Zimmerman a Hero?
To the very sick...to the hate-filled mentally disturbed.
Why?
Because they are sick...because they are hate-filled and mentally disturbed.

It should be noted that every single thing that Frank Apisa ever says is, without exception, always an outright lie.



Frank Apisa wrote:
Still trying that tired, old line, Oralloy.

Anyway...the people for whom George Zimmerman is a hero are,
for the most part, sick, hate-filled, mentally disturbed individuals.

You think him to be a hero, right, Oralloy? Wink
IF I felt sick, then I 'd get medical help. When I feel sick, I do that.
"Hate" WHAT????? I don t feel a need for hating,
but I admire Zimmy. I hope to meet him.
I almost met him at a gun show in Florida,
but I was too late; i.e., when I found out about it,
it was over. He was there. I did not know, in time.
There will be more gun shows. I 'm an optimist.
I 'd invite him to a fine dinner n give him some gunnery advice. No hating, just eating good food.

Maybe we can get in some fun target practice.
I 'd let him try my .44 revolver.
I might even GIVE it to him.

David
Frank Apisa wrote:
I repeat:

The people for whom George Zimmerman is a hero are,
for the most part, sick, hate-filled, mentally disturbed individuals.


You obviously consider him a hero, David...and you have to decide
if you are part of the "most"... or just an aberration
within the "Zimmerman is a Hero" contingent.
Well, NO, Frank. Before I decide that,
I need to know the ACCURACY, the VERACITY of your allegations.
To assess those considerations, I need to know HOW u acquired your data
on each of those points; did u have a team of experienced psychiatrists
who interviewed the citizenry of Florida??
or of America?? I dont believe that u have made your data-base clear yet.
WHICH psychiatric tests were administered to your test subjects??
WHO rendered those diagnoses ?
Tell us their States of licensure and their seniority in their profession, please?

Which statisticians have u employed?

Which techniques of statistical analysis were employed ?
Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 04:19 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

I don t understand the question.

David


that speaks volumes, davey...

do you agree with orally's take that the US should wipe out the Italian judges along with their wives and offspring?
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 04:21 pm
@Rockhead,
'Splains a lot.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 04:27 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

oralloy wrote:


Frank Apisa wrote:
To Whom Is George Zimmerman a Hero?
To the very sick...to the hate-filled mentally disturbed.
Why?
Because they are sick...because they are hate-filled and mentally disturbed.

It should be noted that every single thing that Frank Apisa ever says is, without exception, always an outright lie.



Frank Apisa wrote:
Still trying that tired, old line, Oralloy.

Anyway...the people for whom George Zimmerman is a hero are,
for the most part, sick, hate-filled, mentally disturbed individuals.

You think him to be a hero, right, Oralloy? Wink
IF I felt sick, then I 'd get medical help. When I feel sick, I do that.
"Hate" WHAT????? I don t feel a need for hating,
but I admire Zimmy. I hope to meet him.
I almost met him at a gun show in Florida,
but I was too late; i.e., when I found out about it,
it was over. He was there. I did not know, in time.
There will be more gun shows. I 'm an optimist.
I 'd invite him to a fine dinner n give him some gunnery advice. No hating, just eating good food.

Maybe we can get in some fun target practice.
I 'd let him try my .44 revolver.
I might even GIVE it to him.

David
Frank Apisa wrote:
I repeat:

The people for whom George Zimmerman is a hero are,
for the most part, sick, hate-filled, mentally disturbed individuals.


You obviously consider him a hero, David...and you have to decide
if you are part of the "most"... or just an aberration
within the "Zimmerman is a Hero" contingent.
Well, NO, Frank. Before I decide that,
I need to know the ACCURACY, the VERACITY of your allegations.
To assess those considerations, I need to know HOW u acquired your data
on each of those points; did u have a team of experienced psychiatrists
who interviewed the citizenry of Florida??
or of America?? I dont believe that u have made your data-base clear yet.
WHICH psychiatric tests were administered to your test subjects??
WHO rendered those diagnoses ?
Tell us their States of licensure and their seniority in their profession, please?

Which statisticians have u employed?

Which techniques of statistical analysis were employed ?


It is a secret, David.

In any case, the people for whom George Zimmerman is a hero are, for the most part, sick, hate-filled, mentally disturbed individuals.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 04:29 pm
“A soldier who was being evaluated for post-traumatic stress disorder opened fire at Fort Hood on Wednesday, killing three people and wounding 16 before killing himself, the authorities said. The shooting set off a huge police response and shut down the sprawling Army base, the same facility where a deadly rampage by an officer resulted in 13 deaths in 2009.” Here’s what we know so far about the shooter, Spc. Ivan Lopez. CNN talks about the changes on the military base since the 2009 shooting tragedy. And the Pentagon is faced with figuring out how to address the threats coming from within in the wake of another shooting by one of its own. [NYT, Image via NYT]

Army base. Guns all over the place.

Lots of safety and politeness here...

...right?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 04:31 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
do you agree with oralloy's take that the US should wipe out the Italian judges along with their wives and offspring?

Do you support the Italian judiciary in their efforts to commit atrocities against innocent Americans?
Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 04:38 pm
@oralloy,
I support their right to continue to live.

what you propose is US sponsored terrorism...
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 04:46 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
I support their right to continue to live.

You dodged the question.


Rockhead wrote:
what you propose is US sponsored terrorism...

Wrong. Wartime strikes on military targets are not terrorism.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 04:48 pm
@oralloy,
so you want to declare war on the European Union?

nice...
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 04:53 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
so you want to declare war on the European Union?

No.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 06:54 pm
Quote:
Frank Apisa said: To Whom Is George Zimmerman a Hero?
To the very sick...to the hate-filled mentally disturbed.

Stop being so grouchy mate, your golf season starts soon..Smile
Zim simply defended himself, what was he supposed to do?

"The right of self defense is the first law of nature"- St. George Tucker (1752-1827) American judge and militiaman
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/St_George_Tucker_zpsb3c70703.jpg~original
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 07:23 pm
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White people who kill black people in 'Stand Your Ground' states are 354% more likely to be cleared of murder

Drawn from a study using FBI data on homicides between 2005 to 2009
31 states across the U.S. have the 'Stand your Ground' law
Florida where Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin has the self-defence law

By Jill Reilly

Published: 06:00 EST, 15 July 2013 | Updated: 14:39 EST, 15 July 2013


White people who kill black people in 'Stand Your Ground' states are 354 per cent more likely to be found justified in their killing than a white person who kills another white person, according to research.

On Saturday George Zimmerman, 29, was acquitted of second-degree murder and manslaughter in the shooting death of 17-year old-Trayvon Benjamin Martin.

But he was not arrested for 44 days after the February 26, 2012, shooting as police in Sanford insisted that Florida's Stand Your Ground law on self-defence prohibited them from bringing charges - Florida gives people wide latitude to use deadly force if they fear death or bodily harm.

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Victim: George Zimmerman was accused of murdering the unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin after following him with a gun last year
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Relief: George Zimmerman breaks into a smile of relief a few moments after being cleared of all charges
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On Saturday George Zimmerman, 29, was acquitted of second-degree murder and manslaughter in the shooting death of 17 year old Trayvon Benjamin Martin

The result was drawn from a study using FBI data conducted by John Roman, a senior analyst at Urban Institute’s Justice Policy Center.

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He examined racial disparity using data on 43,500 homicides from 2005 to 2009 - the most recent years for which data was available, reported PBS.

He narrowed the sample to about 5,000 homicides by only analysing killings in which there was a single shooter and a single victim, both of whom were strangers to each other.

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Roman looked specifically at 'justified' homicides - defined as the killing of a felon during the commission of a felony, committed by private citizens.

He discovered that killings of black people by whites were more likely to be considered justified than the killings of white people by blacks.

Frontline then asked him to analyse the data and look for findings between states which had Stand Your Ground versus those without the laws.

Under the Stand Your Ground law, which was approved in 2005 and applies in over 30 states, people fearing for their lives can use deadly force without having to retreat from a confrontation, even when it is possible.

The self-defence law applies in Florida where Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin dead.

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The court was told that he had followed the unarmed youngster through a park because he looked like he was 'up to no good.'

But Zimmerman, a volunteer neighbourhood watchman, claimed he shot Martin in self-defence, and that the teen punched him repeatedly before deciding to use lethal force.

The statute is central to Zimmerman's defense in a case that captivated the United States throughout much of 2012 because police initially declined to arrest Zimmerman based on his self-defense argument and right to use deadly force under Florida law.

Roman analysed the pool of 43,500 homicides by race in states with Stand Your Ground laws and those without them.

He found that whites who kill blacks in non-Stand Your Ground states are 250 percent more likely to be found justified in killing a black person than a white person who kills another white person.

But in Stand Your Ground states, that number jumps to 354 percent.

But the findings are not yet conclusive - the data doesn’t show the circumstances behind the killings, for example whether the people who were shot were involved in home invasions or in a confrontation on the street.

Plus there are less white-on-black shootings in the FBI data -only 25 total in both the Stand Your Ground and non-Stand Your Ground states.

Additionally Stand Your Ground laws can be applied at multiple points during an investigation.

Zimmerman was not arrested for over a month following the shooting as police in Sanford insisted that Florida's Stand Your Ground law on self-defence prohibited them from bringing charges.

A special prosecutor later brought the murder charge.

The prosecutor accused Zimmerman of profiling Martin and chasing him vigilante-style rather than waiting for police to arrive.

Zimmerman left the courthouse as a free man, although the NAACP has called for the Justice Department to open a civil rights case against Zimmerman.

Though the department has a history of using federal civil rights law in an effort to convict defendants who've previously been acquitted in state cases, it's not always easy.

The department said in a statement Sunday afternoon that it's looking into the case to determine whether federal civil rights charges should be filed.

Supporters have suggested that Martin's parents file a wrongful-death civil lawsuit against Zimmerman.

Zimmerman's lawyers have said he'll seek immunity. Florida's stand your ground law may offer him that immunity if a judge concludes he acted in self-defense, said David Weinstein, a former federal prosecutor in Miami.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 07:53 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,

I was compelled to vote down your post because of your gratuitous use of a hateful word.
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