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A Thought About the Zimmerman Trial.

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Frank Apisa
 
Reply Tue 2 Jul, 2013 03:11 pm

Lots of talk about who was doing all that screaming of “help” during the altercation.

I’ve listened to that tape a couple of times…and I notice something strange about it. The yelling seems out-of-whack in some way. The timing between the yelling and the shot seems off base.

I think the prosecution has it wrong. I do not think it was Trayvon Martin yelling for help…I think it was George Zimmerman. I think he may well already have had his gun in hand…and was setting up his defense. I think he may well have been yelling to justify the shooting.

No way to know for certain. Just a bit of idle speculation.

What do you think?
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jul, 2013 04:07 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Zimmerman is not smart enough to have thought of that...
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jul, 2013 04:20 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

Zimmerman is not smart enough to have thought of that...


I cross posted this in my other forum...and this is almost the identical first response I got there.

I am thinking Zimmerman might have had the gun out during the entire encounter. He doesn't seem like a particularly courageous man to me. If he did have it out...this might have popped into his mind.
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jul, 2013 07:09 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I'll tell ya what I'd do if I was his defense attorney and it was shown that it was, in fact, Zimmerman yelling. I'd claim my client was trying to summon other Neighborhood Watch people to help him so he wouldn't have to shoot, that he fired the pistol only as a very last resort.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jul, 2013 07:37 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
He already said he was doing that wrt a neighbor who appeared at a doorway.

Those who are watching, a question. Does the judge appear to have it under control? IS she/or is she NOT playing to the cameras Like at the OJ trial?
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jul, 2013 08:01 pm
@farmerman,
Turns out judges are human, too, after all. Who knew?
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jul, 2013 08:38 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
No I meant that as a question cause Im really not watching, Im reading about it and there are two definite sides of thise story. If you read the other thread its like two different stories are being presented with all the facts at hand.

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jul, 2013 11:49 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:


Lots of talk about who was doing all that screaming of “help” during the altercation.

I’ve listened to that tape a couple of times…and I notice something strange about it. The yelling seems out-of-whack in some way. The timing between the yelling and the shot seems off base.

I think the prosecution has it wrong. I do not think it was Trayvon Martin yelling for help…I think it was George Zimmerman. I think he may well already have had his gun in hand…and was setting up his defense. I think he may well have been yelling to justify the shooting.

No way to know for certain. Just a bit of idle speculation.

What do you think?
I am confident that Zimmy was yelling.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jul, 2013 11:57 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Rockhead wrote:

Zimmerman is not smart enough to have thought of that...


I cross posted this in my other forum...and this is almost the identical first response I got there.



I am thinking Zimmerman might have had the gun out
during the entire encounter.
If he DID,
then there 'd be very little chance
that decedent wud have hung around
to beat Zimmy 's head against the street.

He 'd have fled.

Note that decedent was not shot in the back.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jul, 2013 12:02 am
@Lustig Andrei,
Lustig Andrei wrote:
I'll tell ya what I'd do if I was his defense attorney and it was shown that it was, in fact, Zimmerman yelling. I'd claim my client was trying to summon other Neighborhood Watch people to help him so he wouldn't have to shoot, that he fired the pistol only as a very last resort.
Yes.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jul, 2013 03:09 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:


Lots of talk about who was doing all that screaming of “help” during the altercation.

I’ve listened to that tape a couple of times…and I notice something strange about it. The yelling seems out-of-whack in some way. The timing between the yelling and the shot seems off base.

I think the prosecution has it wrong. I do not think it was Trayvon Martin yelling for help…I think it was George Zimmerman. I think he may well already have had his gun in hand…and was setting up his defense. I think he may well have been yelling to justify the shooting.

No way to know for certain. Just a bit of idle speculation.

What do you think?
I am confident that Zimmy was yelling.

Holy moley. You were there? Are you going to testify, David?





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jul, 2013 02:27 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I 'll reveal that,
if u tell me what "moley" is (sanctified or secular).
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jul, 2013 02:30 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

I 'll reveal that,
if u tell me what "moley" is (sanctified or secular).


Choose one. I'll go along with it.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jul, 2013 02:37 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Either; be my guest.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jul, 2013 03:10 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Either; be my guest.


Okay. Flip. Tails.

Secular.

Now you can "reveal" it, David.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jul, 2013 04:53 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Either; be my guest.


Okay. Flip. Tails.

Secular.

Now you can "reveal" it, David.
OK: I was not there. I will not testify.
Now: what is "moley" ??
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jul, 2013 04:56 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Moley, aka St. Molius, is Capt. Marvel's patron saint. I thought everyone knew that.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jul, 2013 05:02 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
Shazam!, its been a while
since I gave much thawt to the Captain.

Maybe 60 years ?





David
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jul, 2013 05:07 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
A mere 60 years. What's that against eternity? Surely your memory goes back 60 years and more.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jul, 2013 05:14 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Either; be my guest.


Okay. Flip. Tails.

Secular.

Now you can "reveal" it, David.
OK: I was not there. I will not testify.
Now: what is "moley" ??



http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/holy_moley

English[edit]
Alternative forms[edit]
· holy moly!
Etymology[edit]
c. 1892
Interjection[edit]
holy moley!
1. (idiomatic, dated, humorous or euphemistic) An expression of surprise [ quotations ▼]
Synonyms[edit]
· holy cow
· holy mackerel
· holy smoke
 

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