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To Whom Is George Zimmerman a Hero? And Why?

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2014 09:33 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

edgarblythe wrote:

I pray for the day Zimmerman's alligator mouth overloads his tadpole ass in just the right circumstance.

Frank Apisa wrote:
It would be interesting to see him come up against another citizens of his disposition
who decides to "stand his ground" by doing to him what he did to Martin.

It'd be interesting to see a confrontational Zimmerman, refusing to back down to David...
and presenting a clear and present danger to David some day.

I'd kinda like to be watching from a distance, though...
because I know David would not take any crap from him.

And David has heat to bring to the discussion.

I 'd invite him to dinner at a near-by restaurant.
If Travon had adopted that defensive battle tactic,
then he 'd have remained intact. Instead, he chose
to slam Zimmy 's head on the cement.

David
Frank Apisa wrote:
I kinda doubt Martin would have invited him to dinner...
or that Zimmerman would have accepted.
As long as Mr. t. was not slamming Zimmy 's head on the cement,
t. wud remain intact, which wud not be very safe for the rest of us.

Frank Apisa wrote:
It would be interesting to see how things would go if Zimmerman
met up with someone else carrying a gun...and determined not to back down.
Sensible gun-owners r peaceful, if possible, within reason.
It was not reasonable for Zimmy to have remained peaceful,
while t. was slamming his head on the cement.

Frank Apisa wrote:
You would be that person, David.

But I guess to keep this narrative going...you will have to go
the "I'd invite him to dinner route."
Does the fact that it is the truth
count for anything, Frank ?
David


It certainly is YOUR perception of "the truth", David...which brings me back to the notion that your narrative is important to you...and you want to keep it intact...so the "I'd invite him to dinner" route is your best bet.

Reversing places with Martin, however, and it might not be such an easy job to sell. Let the guy tracking you persistently be someone black...and big...and like I said, persistent...and let it be in not especially friendly territory, like the south Bronx...

...and you might be more likely to pop a cap in the guy than to invite him to dinner. Especially if he were persistent.
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2014 10:57 am
@Frank Apisa,
edgarblythe wrote:

I pray for the day Zimmerman's alligator mouth overloads his tadpole
ass in just the right circumstance.

Frank Apisa wrote:
It would be interesting to see him come up against another citizens of his disposition
who decides to "stand his ground" by doing to him what he did to Martin.

It'd be interesting to see a confrontational Zimmerman, refusing to back down to David...
and presenting a clear and present danger to David some day.

I'd kinda like to be watching from a distance, though...
because I know David would not take any crap from him.

And David has heat to bring to the discussion.

I 'd invite him to dinner at a near-by restaurant.
If Travon had adopted that defensive battle tactic,
then he 'd have remained intact. Instead, he chose
to slam Zimmy 's head on the cement.

David
Frank Apisa wrote:
I kinda doubt Martin would have invited him to dinner...
or that Zimmerman would have accepted.
As long as Mr. t. was not slamming Zimmy 's head on the cement,
t. wud remain intact, which wud not be very safe for the rest of us.

Frank Apisa wrote:
It would be interesting to see how things would go if Zimmerman
met up with someone else carrying a gun...and determined not to back down.
Sensible gun-owners r peaceful, if possible, within reason.
It was not reasonable for Zimmy to have remained peaceful,
while t. was slamming his head on the cement.

Frank Apisa wrote:
You would be that person, David.

But I guess to keep this narrative going...you will have to go
the "I'd invite him to dinner route."
Does the fact that it is the truth
count for anything, Frank ?

David
Frank Apisa wrote:
It certainly is YOUR perception of "the truth", David...
which brings me back to the notion that your narrative is important to you...
and you want to keep it intact...so the "I'd invite him to dinner" route is your best bet.
Thanx for your advice on my wagering options.
I have already invited BillRM and his mom to dinner,
as well as several other members of this forum, in NY.
I am not a virgin dinner inviter.



Frank Apisa wrote:
Reversing places with Martin, however,
and it might not be such an easy job to sell.
It certainly is YOUR perception of "the truth", Frank.
I deny that.
It just happened a little while ago:
I was driving away from a restaurant where I had lunch
and a fellow came running up to my white Toyota Prius,
demanding to know who was taking his car.
His own car had been parked next to mine.
I did not get mad. I did not draw on him.
I deemed it humorous.
Admittedly, he was neither "black" nor "big" as u put it.

(If he 'd been more observant, he 'd have seen my color-contrasting
pro-liberty bumper stickers deployed along the flank of my car.)



Frank Apisa wrote:
Let the guy tracking you persistently be someone black...and big...
and like I said, persistent...and let it be in not especially friendly territory,
like the south Bronx...
Wise gun owners practice conflict avoidance.
That means that we dont visit the south Bronx.




Frank Apisa wrote:
...and you might be more likely to pop a cap in the guy
than to invite him to dinner. Especially if he were persistent.
Your characterization of my anticipated behavior is irrational.
I reject it, as being implausible.

I 'd only do that as a counter-attack.
Merely following someone is, by no stretch of the imagination,
an attack; not even in the Twilight Zone.





David
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2014 12:03 pm
This latest Zimmerman thing is strange.....if I get into a roadrage event with a guy who threatens to kill me I can see calling 911, but after the police show and offer to arrest the jerk I am not going to refuse to press charges. The same thing happened a couple of days later when this guy thought Zimmerman was stalking him.

Zimmerman seems to have a knack for getting into bazaar situations.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2014 12:09 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

edgarblythe wrote:

I pray for the day Zimmerman's alligator mouth overloads his tadpole
ass in just the right circumstance.

Frank Apisa wrote:
It would be interesting to see him come up against another citizens of his disposition
who decides to "stand his ground" by doing to him what he did to Martin.

It'd be interesting to see a confrontational Zimmerman, refusing to back down to David...
and presenting a clear and present danger to David some day.

I'd kinda like to be watching from a distance, though...
because I know David would not take any crap from him.

And David has heat to bring to the discussion.

I 'd invite him to dinner at a near-by restaurant.
If Travon had adopted that defensive battle tactic,
then he 'd have remained intact. Instead, he chose
to slam Zimmy 's head on the cement.

David
Frank Apisa wrote:
I kinda doubt Martin would have invited him to dinner...
or that Zimmerman would have accepted.
As long as Mr. t. was not slamming Zimmy 's head on the cement,
t. wud remain intact, which wud not be very safe for the rest of us.

Frank Apisa wrote:
It would be interesting to see how things would go if Zimmerman
met up with someone else carrying a gun...and determined not to back down.
Sensible gun-owners r peaceful, if possible, within reason.
It was not reasonable for Zimmy to have remained peaceful,
while t. was slamming his head on the cement.

Frank Apisa wrote:
You would be that person, David.

But I guess to keep this narrative going...you will have to go
the "I'd invite him to dinner route."
Does the fact that it is the truth
count for anything, Frank ?

David
Frank Apisa wrote:
It certainly is YOUR perception of "the truth", David...
which brings me back to the notion that your narrative is important to you...
and you want to keep it intact...so the "I'd invite him to dinner" route is your best bet.
Thanx for your advice on my wagering options.
I have already invited BillRM and his mom to dinner,
as well as several other members of this forum, in NY.
I am not a virgin dinner inviter.



Frank Apisa wrote:
Reversing places with Martin, however,
and it might not be such an easy job to sell.
It certainly is YOUR perception of "the truth", Frank.
I deny that.
It just happened a little while ago:
I was driving away from a restaurant where I had lunch
and a fellow came running up to my white Toyota Prius,
demanding to know who was taking his car.
His own car had been parked next to mine.
I did not get mad. I did not draw on him.
I deemed it humorous.
Admittedly, he was neither "black" nor "big" as u put it.

(If he 'd been more observant, he 'd have seen my color-contrasting
pro-liberty bumper stickers deployed along the flank of my car.)



Frank Apisa wrote:
Let the guy tracking you persistently be someone black...and big...
and like I said, persistent...and let it be in not especially friendly territory,
like the south Bronx...
Wise gun owners practice conflict avoidance.
That means that we dont visit the south Bronx.




Frank Apisa wrote:
...and you might be more likely to pop a cap in the guy
than to invite him to dinner. Especially if he were persistent.
Your characterization of my anticipated behavior is irrational.
I reject it, as being implausible.

I 'd only do that as a counter-attack.
Merely following someone is, by no stretch of the imagination,
an attack; not even in the Twilight Zone.

David


Like I said, David...you would stand your ground.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2014 12:24 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
Zimmerman seems to have a knack for getting into bazaar situations.


Has he taken to wearing a fez, and smoking a hookah?

Thanks for the laugh, a genuine LOL moment, I appreciate it.
neologist
 
  2  
Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2014 05:12 pm
@izzythepush,
Ahh! Those homonyms. We love 'em. I especially like to watch David dance his tune to the homophone
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OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2014 05:28 pm
@Frank Apisa,
YES, but I 'm bringing out the fact
that I 'd stand my ground while MAKING FRIENDS with the guy, at the same time.

I 'm 1OO% confident that u r smart enuf to see the distinction in principle between how
I 'd stand my ground and the way that Mr. t stood his, on Zimmy 's gut with the head slamming.
At the end of the evening, we 'd be pals, and both of us intact (see the difference?).

I 'd tell Zimmy about A2K over a flavorful meal and invite him to post here.
It has already happened (b4 today's automotive incident).
Enuf time has passed since last summer that u have probably forgotten
my posts of how I stood my ground while on my mission of nostalgia in Jamaica, Queens.
After attending to business, I drove there in the middle of the nite, about 4 AM,
knowing that having moven to Florida, I 'd probably never see the
earliest stomping grounds of my human memory again.
As I stood on a broad sidewalk, examining the area
thru the eye of my memory, the manager of a bar emerged
from it and locked up. He mildly challenged my presence.
I answered with a friendly smile n a joke; no one got hurt.
That was not Travon's applied philosophy. Do u see the difference, Frank ?

Candor moves me to offer an amendment of my posted intention.
Zimmy is a human being. No one accuses him of being immaculately perfect.
Will u concede that point, Frank?? At least that is not the unanimously held consensus.
Well, in recognition of recent allegations of his involvement with road rage,
I have opted to re-consider my posted intention to begift Zimmy
with my Taurus .44 special revolver in stainless steel mirror,
if ever I met Zimmy, to compensate him for the pistol
whereof he was robbed by obama's attorney-general.

We saw on TV that Zimmy has re-armed himself anyway
and the government has promised to give it back to him
when its alleged investigation is complete.

So, everything considered:
I 'm not gonna give Zimmy my .44 Taurus revolver, if I meet him.

(When I decided to give it to Zimmy, I did not know
that Taurus had taken it out of production.)





David
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2014 02:28 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

YES, but I 'm bringing out the fact
that I 'd stand my ground while MAKING FRIENDS with the guy, at the same time.

I 'm 1OO% confident that u r smart enuf to see the distinction in principle between how
I 'd stand my ground and the way that Mr. t stood his, on Zimmy 's gut with the head slamming.
At the end of the evening, we 'd be pals, and both of us intact (see the difference?).

I 'd tell Zimmy about A2K over a flavorful meal and invite him to post here.
It has already happened (b4 today's automotive incident).
Enuf time has passed since last summer that u have probably forgotten
my posts of how I stood my ground while on my mission of nostalgia in Jamaica, Queens.
After attending to business, I drove there in the middle of the nite, about 4 AM,
knowing that having moven to Florida, I 'd probably never see the
earliest stomping grounds of my human memory again.
As I stood on a broad sidewalk, examining the area
thru the eye of my memory, the manager of a bar emerged
from it and locked up. He mildly challenged my presence.
I answered with a friendly smile n a joke; no one got hurt.
That was not Travon's applied philosophy. Do u see the difference, Frank ?

Candor moves me to offer an amendment of my posted intention.
Zimmy is a human being. No one accuses him of being immaculately perfect.
Will u concede that point, Frank?? At least that is not the unanimously held consensus.
Well, in recognition of recent allegations of his involvement with road rage,
I have opted to re-consider my posted intention to begift Zimmy
with my Taurus .44 special revolver in stainless steel mirror,
if ever I met Zimmy, to compensate him for the pistol
whereof he was robbed by obama's attorney-general.

We saw on TV that Zimmy has re-armed himself anyway
and the government has promised to give it back to him
when its alleged investigation is complete.

So, everything considered:
I 'm not gonna give Zimmy my .44 Taurus revolver, if I meet him.

(When I decided to give it to Zimmy, I did not know
that Taurus had taken it out of production.)

David


I still would find an encounter between Zimmerman and someone like you, David.

And if he acted anywhere near the way he did with Martin...I suspect the encounter would not be close to as peaceful as you are suggesting.
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2014 03:01 am
@Frank Apisa,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

YES, but I 'm bringing out the fact
that I 'd stand my ground while MAKING FRIENDS with the guy, at the same time.

I 'm 1OO% confident that u r smart enuf to see the distinction in principle between how
I 'd stand my ground and the way that Mr. t stood his, on Zimmy 's gut with the head slamming.
At the end of the evening, we 'd be pals, and both of us intact (see the difference?).

I 'd tell Zimmy about A2K over a flavorful meal and invite him to post here.
It has already happened (b4 today's automotive incident).
Enuf time has passed since last summer that u have probably forgotten
my posts of how I stood my ground while on my mission of nostalgia in Jamaica, Queens.
After attending to business, I drove there in the middle of the nite, about 4 AM,
knowing that having moven to Florida, I 'd probably never see the
earliest stomping grounds of my human memory again.
As I stood on a broad sidewalk, examining the area
thru the eye of my memory, the manager of a bar emerged
from it and locked up. He mildly challenged my presence.
I answered with a friendly smile n a joke; no one got hurt.
That was not Travon's applied philosophy. Do u see the difference, Frank ?

Candor moves me to offer an amendment of my posted intention.
Zimmy is a human being. No one accuses him of being immaculately perfect.
Will u concede that point, Frank?? At least that is not the unanimously held consensus.
Well, in recognition of recent allegations of his involvement with road rage,
I have opted to re-consider my posted intention to begift Zimmy
with my Taurus .44 special revolver in stainless steel mirror,
if ever I met Zimmy, to compensate him for the pistol
whereof he was robbed by obama's attorney-general.

We saw on TV that Zimmy has re-armed himself anyway
and the government has promised to give it back to him
when its alleged investigation is complete.

So, everything considered:
I 'm not gonna give Zimmy my .44 Taurus revolver, if I meet him.

(When I decided to give it to Zimmy, I did not know
that Taurus had taken it out of production.)

David
Frank Apisa wrote:
I still would find an encounter between Zimmerman and someone like you, David.

And if he acted anywhere near the way he did with Martin...
I suspect the encounter would not be close to as peaceful as you are suggesting.
YES, AGREED!
IF I were slamming Zimmy 's head on the cement, like Mr. t was,
then Zimmy woud acquire an interest in shooting me,
as he did with the perpetrator.

I don 't believe that, in that circumstance, Zimmy woud reason:
Well, this guy is a WHITE, so I 'll let HIM slam my head
on the street all he wants!!!!





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2014 09:31 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
He's a murdering rat bastard. He'll kill again.
Zimmy did absolutely NOTHING rong
on the night in question; not morally; not legally.
The facts of the case brought that out.

I wish I coud meet him and thank him for his valuable service.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2014 09:47 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
What the hell does that even mean?

George Zimmerman will murder again.
When Zimmy killed t,
he was committing the felony of attempted murder
by slamming Zimmy's head on the street.
If Zimmy defensively continues to kill violent felons,
then we in Florida will all be a lot better off from it. Zimmy deserves a tax credit.





David
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2014 11:06 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

bobsal u1553115 wrote:
He's a murdering rat bastard. He'll kill again.
Zimmy did absolutely NOTHING rong
on the night in question; not morally; not legally.
The facts of the case brought that out.

I wish I coud meet him and thank him for his valuable service.
David


I wish you could meet him also, David. Maybe in a dark alley...and with him in a foul mood.

You would see that justice is served.
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2014 09:30 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
too bad this thug is still free.

I always find it a bit scary when I see someone advocate imprisoning innocent people.
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2014 09:40 pm
@oralloy,

farmerman wrote:
too bad this thug is still free.
oralloy wrote:
I always find it a bit scary
when I see someone advocate imprisoning innocent people.
The farmer is inexorably driven by his HATRED of Zimmy.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2014 09:51 pm
@Frank Apisa,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

bobsal u1553115 wrote:
He's a murdering rat bastard. He'll kill again.
Zimmy did absolutely NOTHING rong
on the night in question; not morally; not legally.
The facts of the case brought that out.

I wish I coud meet him and thank him for his valuable service.
David
Frank Apisa wrote:
I wish you could meet him also, David.
Maybe in a dark alley...and with him in a foul mood.

You would see that justice is served.
Yea, I bet I coud cheer him up.
I 'd start by NOT slamming his head on the street
and by inviting him to dinner! Then, over a good meal,
I 'd offer him some advice on getting some decent defensive firepower,
instead of that feeble pistol the government stole from him; (did him a favor).





David
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2014 09:20 am
George Zimmerman Supporter Changes Mind, ‘Trayvon Targeted For Race’
Source: INQUISITR

Friend and former neighbor Frank Taaffe is testifying against George Zimmerman before a grand jury that will decide if Zimmerman is guilty of violating Trayvon Marton’s civil rights. Despite once defending him on national TV, Taaffe now believes that Zimmerman went after teenage Martin because he was black.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, Frank alleges that a man claiming to be George Zimmerman called him and told him a “racial comment” that was disparaging to Travon Martin before being arrested for the shooting. The former neighbor wouldn’t disclose exactly what the man said outside the courtroom other than it was racist.

He didn’t testify in the earlier court case where Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder charges, believing that the call was just a prank.

Taaffe made the decision to talk about the phone call with FBI due to his own personal tragedies. Recently, both of his sons died, which caused him to reflect on the pain Zimmerman caused the parents of Travon Martin. He explained to reporters, “this is a young man who didn’t deserve to die.”



Read more: http://www.inquisitr.com/1609070/george-zimmerman-supporter-changes-mind-trayvon-targeted-for-race/
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2014 12:39 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
George Zimmerman Supporter Changes Mind, ‘Trayvon Targeted For Race’
Source: INQUISITR

Friend and former neighbor Frank Taaffe is testifying against George Zimmerman before a grand jury that will decide if Zimmerman is guilty of violating Trayvon Marton’s civil rights. Despite once defending him on national TV, Taaffe now believes that Zimmerman went after teenage Martin because he was black.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, Frank alleges that a man claiming to be George Zimmerman called him and told him a “racial comment” that was disparaging to Travon Martin before being arrested for the shooting. The former neighbor wouldn’t disclose exactly what the man said outside the courtroom other than it was racist.

He didn’t testify in the earlier court case where Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder charges, believing that the call was just a prank.

Taaffe made the decision to talk about the phone call with FBI due to his own personal tragedies. Recently, both of his sons died, which caused him to reflect on the pain Zimmerman caused the parents of Travon Martin. He explained to reporters, “this is a young man who didn’t deserve to die.”



Read more: http://www.inquisitr.com/1609070/george-zimmerman-supporter-changes-mind-trayvon-targeted-for-race/
He certainly DID deserve to die,
if he was slamming Zimmy's head on the street,
which is un-denied. Zimmy did not have to wait
until his brain fell out, before fighting back.





David
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2014 02:02 pm
Most people view Zimmerman in light of what they believed happened on that night.

I'd like to think that, even here, there isn't anyone who thinks that Zimmerman should have let Martin smash his head on the sidewalk irrespective of whether or not he precipitate the confrontation.

Obviously, if one doesn't believe Martin was smashing Zimmerman's head on the sidewalk one's opinion of Zimmerman's action will be different than if one did.

Often in this forum we are admonished to not assume someone is innocent until proven guilty (The Bergdahl matter comes to mind). Of course this is a legal standard, and not required of any of us unless we are sitting on a jury. I have no problem with people (not on a jury) coming to a judgment about someone's innocence or guilt based on what they have heard or read. Of course depending upon what they relate they have heard or read I may totally disregard their judgment as prejudicial, politically motivated, or simply idiotic.

It's fairly typical for those who use the "innocent until proven guilty" card in matters in which they have some political stake to throw it out the window in others where their political stake demands a rush to judgment (e.g. this case and the Ferguson incident.) This is just the way of the world and A2K.

In this case, Zimmerman was acquitted and so in the eyes of the law he is not guilty of committing a crime. I also don't have a problem with people who assert that they still believe he was guilty of a crime that night unless they attempt, in some way, to affect a punishment of Zimmerman that the justice system determined was not appropriate. Not saying that anyone here is doing such a thing, or for that matter that anyone outside or here is, but, for instance, if Zimmerman ran a store, an effort to organize a boycott of his store because of a continued belief in his guilt would, in my opinion, be wrong on a civil basis. Such an action is distinguishable from a person's decision to not ever shop in Zimmerman's store as that one personal boycott would not be a threat to his livelihood and could not be construed as vigilantism, whereas an organized boycott could be.

No matter how convinced we may be that OJ Simpson or Caylee Anthony are guilty of murder, the law will not tolerate any of us acting on that conviction and either imprisoning or killing them. I am unaware of any laws that would come into play if someone organized a public effort to punish an individual found innocent of a crime, but I would be in favor of one.

Making the comment that Zimmerman should be rotting in jail is an expression of a personal opinion. I'm sure George Zimmerman doesn't like to see or hear such opinions, but that is a downside of free speech that needs to be tolerated.

Clearly this particular case was seen through lens' clouded by extraneous issues. Whether or not young black men are disproportionately assumed to be threatening "thugs" was irrelevant to the case. If Martin had been a young white man the case wouldn't have garnered a fraction of the attention it received. There may indeed be a legitimate larger issue for the public to consider concerning this incident, but it never should have been introduced into the individual case of George Zimmerman's guilt or innocence.

hawkeye10
 
  2  
Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2014 02:14 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Most people view Zimmerman in light of what they believed happened on that night.


which is possible because of a lack of factual knowledge of what happened. Zimmerman should have never been charged, him sitting in a courtroom was evidence of abuse of a citizen at the hands of the state.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2014 02:55 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

George Zimmerman Supporter Changes Mind, ‘Trayvon Targeted For Race’
Source: INQUISITR

Friend and former neighbor Frank Taaffe is testifying against George Zimmerman before a grand jury that will decide if Zimmerman is guilty of violating Trayvon Marton’s civil rights. Despite once defending him on national TV, Taaffe now believes that Zimmerman went after teenage Martin because he was black.
If there is a falling out between these 2,
that means nothing. Taaffe was not a witness to what happened.

Zimmy 's history showed him not
to be anti-black, but let us assume,
for the sake of argument, that Zimmy was a member of the KKK.
When martin jumped him, with no provocation, and started slamming
his head on the street, Zimmy had the right to defend his brain
from further injury, regardless of his opinions about anything.





David
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