Saddam's WMD Have Been Found

Maybe someone here believes it needs more salt?

well the entire conversation has certainly spiced up this thread.....

I think someone slipped some pot in the oregano jar.

(It's in the salad.)

Here's what the article said:



This is the link to the story.

I don't understand how a "high speed rail gun" could test nuclear weapons materials, unless you want to see how they go splat when you smash them into something at high speed.

Anyway, nothing was said about enrichment, it's just a stockpile of natural uranium. I don't know what kind of enrichment they use here at the power plant. I do know that Naval reactors are somewhere up in the 90% enrichment level. That's why they can make them small enough to carry on a ship or submarine. And BTW I was at INEL during the winter of 1972-1973. BRRRR!!! Came away from Idaho Falls with a wife, though.

thanks Tarantula. I have to still think that the title "Natural U" is misleading in thearticle..It gives no distinction between an ore and a purified or even enriched subatance. If you worked at INEL and Hanford, were you associated with the DOE?. I hated INEL , cold also Pantex , waay too hot. Sandia was my favorite in the high desert.

i also wonder what they would do with a rail gun ?


Kick, BP,---thanks for the help. im gonna have to do some serious "in your face father son discussion with jr" hes the one that brought it up . Im totally out of the pop culture loop. Actually I guess Im my own 'Pop' culture .
goddam, I was being tested for how far hhe can go before I understand.

blatham , "money shot" now that I remember. course , all the porn queens whose careers I followed , are probably dead from STDs

Glad I caught up on this thread....I would respond, but I'm laughing too hard.

No problem. Anytime you need to know something that involves sex, pornography, or filthy perversions of any kind, I'm here for ya.

Maybe it was uranium ore. Sometimes the people in the news media aren't exactly diligent about getting the terminology straight.

When I was at the INEL, it was called the National Reactor Testing Station. I was in the Navy and being trained on the S1W submarine prototype reactor. It was one of three prototypes at the site. Apparently they're all shut down now. It was way too cold in the winter, but the summers are great and the trout fishing is out of this world. I lived in Blackfoot for 6 months, and all I can remember of that is darkness and boredom.

Did Saddam have WMD's? I don't know. I do know that the present administration has bungled horribly. However, I am one of the few among my acquaintances who still believe that President Clinton was a great president--one of the best of the last century.

President Clinton believed that Saddam Hussein had, at one time, and might have regained WMD's.

In his speech to the American People on Dec. 16th 1998, President Clinton said:

"...If Saddam can cripple the weapons inspection system and get away with it, he would conclude that the international community--led by the United States--has simply lost its will. He will surmise that he has free rein to rebuild his arsenal of destruction, and someday--make no mistake about it--he will use it again as he has in the past."

In some circles, President Clinton is anathema. I believe that he was one of our best presidents and immensely well informed about foreign powers and relationships.

Here's an interesting story about an upcoming report. I don't understand the use of "anthrax" in one area. I suspect they meant "nerve gas."

Saddam did have WMD plans says inspector

Brian Brady
WESTMINSTER EDITOR

SADDAM Hussein had the ability to unleash biological and chemical weapons "at short notice" on foreign nations, according to a potentially explosive new report by inspectors.

The leaked document, written by Charles Duelfer, the new director of the Iraq Survey group, concludes that hard evidence does exist that Saddam had the ability to wreak terror with the weaponry.

Furthermore, there was evidence that he was plotting to expand his facilities last year, prior to the invasion of British and American troops.

The report will be seized on gratefully by London and Washington as they continue to fight the case for war. One Foreign Office official described it last night as "hopeful".

But critics of the war immediately hit back, claiming that Duelfer, a CIA special adviser, was simply offering the US and UK what they wanted to hear.

His report follows another desperate week for the occupying forces in Iraq, after the brutal lynching of American contractors in Fallujah.

Security firms are now desperately recruiting ex-military personnel to try to protect workers. They include Clive Fairweather, the former deputy commander of the SAS and Chief Inspector of Scottish prisons, who revealed last night that he had been offered a ?'substantial' sum in return for a short-term contract advising on security. He turned it down.

Duelfer's report provides what he calls "new information" on Saddam's military build-up. "Iraq did have facilities suitable for the production of biological and chemical agents needed for weapons. It had plans to improve and expand and even build new facilities," he says in the report, seen by Scotland on Sunday.

Duelfer says he has fresh evidence that long-range ballistic missiles were being tested. He also reveals evidence from a research centre in Iraq where scientists were found to have been apparently testing commercial biopesticide, which can be used as anthrax.

The report is Duelfer's first since his appointment in February when he took over from David Kay - who quit saying he did not believe there were any large stockpiles of weapons.

Last night his findings were questioned by critics of the war, who claimed he had moved the goalposts in the hunt for weapons of mass destruction since taking over the job - shifting from the search for hard evidence, to signs of "intent".

They also demanded that the factual basis for Duelfer's five-page report be revealed.

Democrat senator Carl Levin - the party's most senior defence spokesman - has now challenged the CIA, which controls the survey group, to declassify the entire report.

"Mr Duelfer's statement is written to express the author's ?'suspicions' as to Iraq's activities relating to possible weapons of mass destruction programmes or activities while leaving out information in the classified report which points away from his suspicions," he said.

In the report, which has been sent to the US Congress, Duelfer admits that the task of the ISG team is made difficult by the reluctance of former government officials to explain their role in developing weaponry.

"There is a fear former regime supporters would exact retribution," Duelfer reports. Nevertheless, the group continued to receive "intriguing" reportsabout concealed caches.

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If all of this evidence about WMD's is correct, why don't we see it in the media. I have read or seen nothing about it. Why not? Does the media think the reports are biased or unauthoritative?

mporter, Like everything else about this administration, they like to keep things a secret until somebody takes of photo of the real thing. However, in the mean time, you can look at this link for info on WMDs in Iraq.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0413-02.htm

Maybe once the report is officially released, the rest of the media will talk about it too.

Me too.

As far as I can see - admittedly, I have not read this thread thoroughly - there is nothing significant here that is new.

Hey, you guys missed my link; it's dated today! LOL

c. i.- I dont know if i can buy that article that were salting the WMD sites. Its gotten so cynical now that if the truth would present itself, I doubt if wed recognize it.


Back to the overriding and important questions, "getting ones sald tossed" , then, is what my generation would have referred to a a "rim job". I need to coordinate the data on these things and reach closure.

Blatham, Id like to see some Chinese restaurant aigns that have many layers of meaning. I once had someone send me a sign (it may have been fake0 it had FOK YU lAUNDRY.

farmerperson

I've seen, as probably you have, quite funny examples of mis-translation (sign outside laundry "Drop Your Pants Here"). Some are side-splitters.

Here in Vancouver, through serious levels of immigration from pacific rim countries, our population is now nearly 50% Asian. There's always turmoil when cultures intermingle like that, but it eventually works to enrich all, I think.

The folks who come from Hong Kong and certain parts of China have certain cultural notions which are reflected in their advertising, so the term 'lucky' is fairly common on signs or in brochures, etc. Certain numbers are lucky/unlucky, and this has a consequence for what price you can expect for your house, simply because of the address numbers on the door. At least one outlying community has revised the traditionally random numbering of new homes to account for this cultural preference. Money is rather a big thing too. You'll recall the formal turnover of Hong Kong from Britain to China about fifteen years ago. Big to-do...at least a week of solid celebrations and performances (a very weird mix of Hong Kong culture and commie aesthetics). One performance had a few dozen beautiful women in lovely cascading silks marching around under colored lights, each wearing a head-dress which was a three foot high dollar sign.

farmerman, I don't know how legit the link is, but that's all I could find froma web search on "Iraq WMDs." I'm waiting anxiously for the news to break on those WMDs.

Then explain why Hans Blix didn't have access to this leaked document, written by Charles Duelfer, the new director of the Iraq Survey group?

Very strange.

Equally strange, while the Scotsman is a perfectly good newspaper, why has this story not appeared in Reuters, the AP, Ananova, the NYT's, the Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, or NBC?

Very, very strange.