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Se habla espanol?

 
 
estrella
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2002 07:01 pm
:wink:
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Rae
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2002 07:06 pm
So, it's a done deal? Please say yes, please say yes, please say yes..... Rolling Eyes
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jjorge
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2002 08:53 pm
estrella wrote:
jjorge:

¡Ah, cómo interesar el cuento entero es! Gracias para esa penetración en las varias áreas de España y el español parlante.

Yo lo envidio su permanece en España. Quiero realmente ir y obtener para saber el país. Recientemente he estado leyendo acerca de Mallorca, que me intriga tanto, así que querré definitivamente hacer todo el viajar en España, pero visitar también las islas mientras estoy allí.

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jjorge:

Oh, how interesting the whole story is! Thank you for that insight into the various areas of Spain and speaking Spanish.

I envy you your stay in Spain. I really want to go and get to know the country. Recently I have been reading about Mallorca, which intrigues me very much, so I definitely will want to do all the traveling in Spain, but also visit the islands while I am there.



Estrella

Aunque era más que 39 anos atrás, nunca olvidaré mis dos anos en Espana. Me encantaban la tierra, la gente y sus costumbres, la comida etc. etc.

Yo estuve allí en la época de Franco y me fascinaba como las estaciónes
de radio terminaron sus transmisiónes en el fin de la noche:

"Senoras, senores, muy buenas noches.....
Viva Franco!...Y Arriba Espana!

No creo que me habría gustado tanto el país si yo fuera Espanol. En aquel entonces los Espanoles no tenían democrácia, sino tenían Franco.
La guardia civil (como un tipo de 'Gestapo'') estaba omnipresente, ie. en las estaciónes de autobuses, estaciones de trenes, en la calle -hasta en las playas - chequeando papeles, y revisando la gente.

Me acuerdo un bar que conocí en Torremolinos que se llamaba 'Bar Quitapenas' (Sí por supuesto, yo fuí allí para quitarme las penas!)

Era en Espana donde yo descubrí calamares fritos, sangría, tapas,
y vino Jeréz. Yo y varios amigos militares fuímos varios veces a
Sevilla, visitamos en Jerez de la Frontera una bodega a conocer como se produce el vino...en fin y en corto teníamos un buen tiempo en Espana!

Although it was more than 39 years ago, I'll never forget my two years in Spain. I loved the land, the people, the customs, the food, etc. etc.

I was there in the era of Franco and it fascinated me how the radio stations signed off at the end of the night:

Senoras, senores, muy buenas noches.....
Viva Franco!...Y Arriba Espana!

I don't think I would have liked the country as much if I had been Spanish.
In those days the Spanish people didn't have a democracy they had Franco. The civil guard (a sort of Gestapo) was omnipresent ie. in bus stations, train stations, in the street, -even on the beaches - checking papers and checking out the people.

I remember a bar in Torremolinos called 'Bar Quitapenas'(pain remover)
( Yes, of course I went there to remove my pains!)

It was in Spain that I discovered fried calamares,(squid) sangría, tapas and sherry. Myself and varios military friends went various times to Seville,
we visited in Jerez a winery to learn how they make the wine, -In short, we had a great time in Spain!
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jjorge
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2002 09:05 pm
Oh! and I remember Josefina Lopez, a bar girl that I fell in love with. Lucky for me I guess, that I didn't have much money.

Don Antonio told me once, with an embarrassed laugh what the people of Rota said about Americans and the bar girls:

"It's a good thing that our burros can't say sí or else
the american G.I.'s would be marrying them and taking them home to America!"
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estrella
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2002 09:09 pm
Rae:

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!
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estrella
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2002 09:27 pm
jjorge:

¡Fascinador! ¡Sé que amaré España!

Interesaba muy la vida en el Caribe en un puerto libre poseído por Colombia. Tuvimos todas clases de visitantes, inclusive muchos alemanes orientales y cubano mientras estaba allí. Amé la vida en el centro del océano, por ahí parece en una isla, y nunca ha parado es nostálgico para los trópicos.

*****

Fascinating! I know I am going to love Spain!

It was very interesting living in the Caribbean on a free port owned by Colombia. We had all kinds of visitors, including many Cubans and East Germans while I was there. I loved living in the center of the ocean, or so it seems on an island, and never have stopped being nostalgic for the near-tropics.

(I can see that we need someone to help us with the not-quite-correct Spanish translators!)
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jjorge
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2002 08:22 am
Estrella

Has visitado otro país latino?
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estrella
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2002 09:59 am
Hmmm, You creo solamente Panama, amigo. Visito alla en las 60s.
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estrella
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2002 09:59 am
Or should that be visiti?
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estrella
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2002 10:01 am
Y "yo creo que" probablemente. Yo creo que I just fractured la lengua!
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2002 11:43 am
Se dice "visité".
Y si no fracturas la lengua de vez en cuando, no aprendes.
Es mejor equivocarse que no intentarlo.


It is said: "visité".
And if you don't fracture the language once in a while, you don't learn.
It's better to make a mistake than to not try.
(Now, is my English sentence correct?)
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estrella
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2002 12:26 pm
Muchas gracias, fbaezer! Escribe muy bueno la lengua Ingles. Apreciaria oir algos de su vida en Mexico, si usted apreciaria decimos?

Thank you, fbaezer! You write very well (good) in the English language. I would like to hear something of your life in Mexico, if you would like to tell us?

P.S. Que diferencia hacen "saber" y "conocer, " o ""tener" y "hacer"?
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2002 12:42 pm
La diferencia entre tener y hacer es muy fácil.
Tener - to have
Hacer - to do

La diferencia entre saber y conocer es de niveles.

Saber es algo profundo.
Conocer es algo que tienes enfrente.
Yo puedo conocer Canadá, pero no saber nada de ese país.

Por otra parte, a la gente no se la sabe, se la conoce.
"Te conozco muy bien", dijo la mujer al hombre.


The difference between tener and hacer is very easy.
The difference between saber and conocer is one of levels.
Saber is something profound.
Conocer is something you have before you.
I can "conocer" Canada, but "saber" nothing about that country.
(Say I went there on business, and was not interested in anything but business).
On the other hand, you don't use saber for people, but conocer.
"I know you very well", said the woman to the man.

Some of my posts tell things about life in Mexico.
As for myself, I make a living by writing. In Spanish.
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2002 02:26 pm
fbaezer
Do you do any website writing?
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2002 02:27 pm
I was thinking about putting a Espanol button on one of my websites for my friend on the Baja CA Mexico.
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jjorge
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2002 06:20 pm
fbaezer

Gracias por la clarificación sobre conocer y saber.
Quiere explicarnos cuando se usa intender?

(ojalá que su instrucción es gratis! Smile )



Thank you for the clarification about conocer and saber.
Would you care to explain to us when one uses intender?

( I hope your instruction is free! Smile )
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2002 11:56 pm
Anyone here?
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husker
 
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Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2002 09:06 am
I need a little Espanol help via PM - anyone here yet? need to tell the MRS before she leave for school - cannot get all the language worked out right.
Thanks
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husker
 
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Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2002 09:09 am
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2002 05:22 pm
jjorge,

entender= to understand

Ella no sabe español, pero lo entiende.
She doesn't know Spanish, but understands it.

More about saber and conocer.

Deep "saber"= sabiduría = wisdom
Deep "conocer" = conocimiento = knowledge.

El conocimiento es diferente de la sabiduría, dijo Buda.
Knowledge is different from wisdom, Buddha said.
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