IS AMERICA A BULLY?

The estimates of the death toll from the use of nukes in Japan run from 150,000 to 250,000. Add to this count another 100,000 in the Tokyo fire bombings.Terrible by any measure, but, unfortunately, somewhat low on the list of efforts, throughout history, to kill civilians (with the worst being those where the casualties were the killers' own people).

The manner in which these people died is clearly horrific but I don't know if it's any more horrible than being strapped to the barrel of a canon and blasted to shreds.

At times America has been a bully (although I don't think WW2 was one of them) which is my answer to the question posed. All nations, and peoples at one time in their history have been bullies if they ever had the power to behave as such.

It remains the case, though, that when the United States was, arguably, at the zenith of its power, as respects the rest of the world, it chose not to conquer the rest of the world. Nor did it chose to humiliate and enslave its enemies.To what extent this influences one's view of America, it still is a very singular fact.

Foofie wrote:

.... You might not have a real emotional connection to the Pacific Theater, since I do not think your Marines were captured and tortured by Gook Japs.

That is not only the most pig ignorant post that I've read in a long time, it probably sums up the utter bewilderment a lot of people feel when they experience this sort of shite from a certain sort of American.
You, dear boy, just about sum up the arrogant c*nt that seems to get most noticed when this sort of thing is being discussed,
You are either dense, or you do it to rile. I think that you do it to rile, personally, which I think brings shame on your country, as other Americans get lumped into the same pot.

For a start, it's not always about America, never mind how the makers of Private Ryan want to portray it. You cannot simply re-write history and think that you will get away with it.
Three whole stinking years before America even joined the fray, British and Anzac prisoners were being routinely tortured in Japanese prison camps in various places across the far east.
My uncle was one of them. I, personally, experienced him waking up the whole household with his screaming at night, not just on the odd occasion, but at least once a week during the three months he stayed with us.
This went on for more than twenty years after his war ended, until he discovered valium and other such knockout potions.
He would never ever talk about what happened, and boycotted anything remotely Japanese for the rest of his life. My dad had to hold him back once (in Oxford Street, supposedly christmas shopping) in the 60's, when a party of Japanese tourists went by. Apparently, this brother of his suddenly turned into a foaming jibbering wreck just through hearing Japanese being spoken. A copper got involved and my uncle was almost arrested.
Then shits like you come along and write him out of history. Shame on you.

1. Go and see The Railway Man (should be at the cinemas now, as it's just been released). Or read the book. Or at least look it up.

2. If you are too arrogant/ignorant to bother, then at least read this account, or try some other ways to educate yourself at least slightly about this part of the war.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254168/Monsters-River-Kwai-One-British-POW-tells-horrifying-story.html

Foofie, who is Miller's sock puppet, is a bigot, a racist, a hate merchant. HMS Prince of Wales was sunk by the Japanese. British and Canadian troops defended Hong Kong and became prisoners of war. British and Australian troops defended the Malay Peninsula and Singapore, and were made prisoners of war. British troops were captured in the crown colony on Borneo, which is now the nation of Sarawak. Of course, British troops fought the Japanese in Burma. British subjects, including women and children, were interned by the Japanese in China, in Singapore and in Burma.

Foofie us a turd-stirrer, and a hateful puke. Like all bigots of her ilk, her bigotry is abetted by her ignorance, her invincible ignorance. My advice is to ignore Foofie--you won't miss a thing.

No it's because you're a loathsome piece of ****.

Insults don't change the fact that Sarawak is now a Malaysian state and not a nation.

I provided it as a matter of information..

The estimates of the death toll from the use of nukes in Japan run from 150,000 to 250,000. Add to this count another 100,000 in the Tokyo fire bombings.Terrible by any measure, but, unfortunately, somewhat low on the list of efforts, throughout history, to kill civilians (with the worst being those where the casualties were the killers' own people).

The manner in which these people died is clearly horrific but I don't know if it's any more horrible than being strapped to the barrel of a canon and blasted to shreds.

At times America has been a bully (although I don't think WW2 was one of them) which is my answer to the question posed. All nations, and peoples at one time in their history have been bullies if they ever had the power to behave as such.

It remains the case, though, that when the United States was, arguably, at the zenith of its power, as respects the rest of the world, it chose not to conquer the rest of the world. Nor did it chose to humiliate and enslave its enemies.To what extent this influences one's view of America, it still is a very singular fact.

Nor did it chose to humiliate and enslave its enemies.

Simply put, foreigners commenting on U.S. history don't mean jack, in my opinion. Expatriates commenting on U.S. history don't mean jack, in my opinion.

Like I say, unfortunately a large proportion of the rest of the world see you as a typical American, which I believe is unfair on your fellow citizens.

Lordyaswas wrote:

Like I say, unfortunately a large proportion of the rest of the world see you as a typical American, which I believe is unfair on your fellow citizens.

Actually, even some of the worse stereotypes seem to be 'better' - and "yes", it's totally unfair, because generally Americans are better educated, less ignorant, not arrogant, ...

I said something to the effect that gullible people who believe what they're told believe it. The Bush admin knew full well that there were no WMDs, otherwise they wouldn't have exaggerated the paltry evidence they did have. Those in the UN security council who didn't have a vested interest saw through the lies and half truths they were presented with.

I hardly think the consequences of allowing an enfeebled Hussein, with no WMDs, to stay in power would be worse than what's happening now. Half a million dead Iraqi civilians, Al Qaida running rings around the Iraqi government, which incidentally is in the pockets of Iranian government, Al Qaida strengthened in Syria and North Africa and a population who don't want western intervention whatever the cost.

Not only was the invasion of Iraq a criminal act and morally wrong it was monumentally incompetent. A half baked plan with inadequate funds that failed in every single one of its objectives. It couldn't have gone better for Al Qaida if Bin Laden had planned the operation himself

My umbrage, as you put it, idiot, is that you tried to state that your forces were the only ones to suffer at the hands of the japanese.
Clearly you are not only a moron, you also try to slip out of a situation brought about by your own pig ignorance.

Your brand of Americanism, unfortunately, is the one that the rest of the world quickly picks up on. The fact that you care not a jot about anything that happens in foreign fields as long as it doesn't harm an American, proves to me that you are arrogant, and that you are an unfeeling c*nt.

Like I say, unfortunately a large proportion of the rest of the world see you as a typical American, which I believe is unfair on your fellow citizens.

It is because of arrogant c*nts like you, that Frank has started this thread, trying to defend the USA against charges that it is a bully.
Frank should therefore look more towards the enemy within to see where the problem lies, imo.

You are an ignorant, unfeeling, shameless, arrogant gobshite, pure and simple. I shall have nothing more to do with you.

Foofie wrote:

Simply put, foreigners commenting on U.S. history don't mean jack, in my opinion. Expatriates commenting on U.S. history don't mean jack, in my opinion.

But,of course, everyone who pledged allegiance to the flag of the United States of America should comment on other country's history and re-write that!

My umbrage, as you put it, idiot, is that you tried to state that your forces were the only ones to suffer at the hands of the japanese.
Clearly you are not only a moron, you also try to slip out of a situation brought about by your own pig ignorance.

Your brand of Americanism, unfortunately, is the one that the rest of the world quickly picks up on. The fact that you care not a jot about anything that happens in foreign fields as long as it doesn't harm an American, proves to me that you are arrogant, and that you are an unfeeling c*nt.

Like I say, unfortunately a large proportion of the rest of the world see you as a typical American, which I believe is unfair on your fellow citizens.

It is because of arrogant c*nts like you, that Frank has started this thread, trying to defend the USA against charges that it is a bully.
Frank should therefore look more towards the enemy within to see where the problem lies, imo.

You are an ignorant, unfeeling, shameless, arrogant gobshite, pure and simple. I shall have nothing more to do with you.

Lordyaswas wrote:

Like I say, unfortunately a large proportion of the rest of the world see you as a typical American, which I believe is unfair on your fellow citizens.

Actually, even some of the worse stereotypes seem to be 'better' - and "yes", it's totally unfair, because generally Americans are better educated, less ignorant, not arrogant, ...