Is There Any Chance Christie Did NOT Know About the Dirty Tricks?

And the only ones who think they didn't are liberals.

I believe him when he says he didn't know about it. I could be wrong, but for now there is no real evidence to suggest he is lying.

I am disappointed that it appears that his aides weren't certain that he would never tolerate a deed like this, and therefore never attempt it, but maybe they were and just thought they would never be found out. Irrespective of his reaction to the stunt, they were, obviously, stupidly arrogant enough to think they would never never be found out. His reaction is only part of the trouble they are in.

How do people in positions of power develop this sort of disconnection with reality? Even if one assumes that they were just doing something they thought was in keeping with the bullying ways of their boss, they had to know (if they gave it one minute of serious thought) that revelation of their misdeeds could seriously damage the political aspirations of their boss.

How did anyone at the IRS not only think it was OK to target conservative groups but that someone up the chain would be pleased with their actions?

How did the president of the United States come to think that it would be OK to blatantly lie to the American people about keeping their plans and doctors...period?

These people are the government.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

How did anyone at the IRS not only think it was OK to target conservative groups but that someone up the chain would be pleased with their actions?

I think it has pretty much been established that the IRS DID NOT just target conservative groups...but many kinds of groups.

You had a terrific post going here...but this sentence should not have been included.

.and the only people who still think the IRS selectively targeted conservative groups...

...are conservatives.

And the only ones who think they didn't are liberals.

Imagine that.

There is a theory that the underlings that did it,
actually were working for the GOP nat committee and were trying to ferment this hoohaw.

Id rather he be the candidate than some right wing ,take-no-prisoners ideologue
who appeals to a small base of idiots who only represent a small bunch of very wealthy jagoffs.

Hey, its New Jersey, what do you expect?

my vote cancels your vote Dave

farmerman wrote:

There is a theory that the underlings that did it,
actually were working for the GOP nat committee and were trying to ferment this hoohaw.

Id rather he be the candidate than some right wing ,take-no-prisoners ideologue
who appeals to a small base of idiots who only represent a small bunch of very wealthy jagoffs.

Hey, its New Jersey, what do you expect?

I guess this will put an end to this RINO 's presidential ambitions.
That 's a good thing.

David

OmSigDAVID wrote:

farmerman wrote:

There is a theory that the underlings that did it,
actually were working for the GOP nat committee and were trying to ferment this hoohaw.

Id rather he be the candidate [so that he'll represent YOUR principles, not mine]
than some right wing, take-no-prisoners ideologue
who appeals to a small base of idiots who only represent a small bunch of very wealthy jagoffs.

Hey, its New Jersey, what do you expect?

I guess this will put an end to this RINO 's presidential ambitions.
That 's a good thing.

David

In the terrific HBO series The Newsroom, protagonist Will McAvoy is asked by a Republican srategist, “Do you call yourself a Republican so you can make a claim to credibility when you attack the GOP?”

He responds:

"No, I call myself a Republican because I am one.
I believe in market solutions and common sense realities
and the necessity to defend ourselves against a dangerous world
and that’s about it.

The problem is now I have to be homophobic.
I have to count the number to times people go to church.
I have to deny facts and think scientific research is a long con.
I have to think poor people are getting a sweet ride.
And I have to have such a stunning inferiority complex that I fear education and intellect…in the 21st century.
But most of all, the biggest new requirement, really the only requirement is that I have to hate Democrats.
And I have to hate Chris Christie for not spitting on the president when he got off of Air Force One.
The two-party system is crucial to the whole operation. There is honor in being the loyal opposition. And I’m a Republican for the same reasons you are."

David, you and others like you call the McAvoy character a Republican In Name Only apparently because he is not willing to get down into the gutter where so many Republicans now reside.

Thanks for reminding us of that.

Frank Apisa wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

farmerman wrote:

There is a theory that the underlings that did it,
actually were working for the GOP nat committee and were trying to ferment this hoohaw.

Id rather he be the candidate [so that he'll represent YOUR principles, not mine]
than some right wing, take-no-prisoners ideologue
who appeals to a small base of idiots who only represent a small bunch of very wealthy jagoffs.

Hey, its New Jersey, what do you expect?

I guess this will put an end to this RINO 's presidential ambitions.
That 's a good thing.

David

In the terrific HBO series The Newsroom, protagonist Will McAvoy is asked by a Republican srategist, “Do you call yourself a Republican so you can make a claim to credibility when you attack the GOP?”

He responds:

"No, I call myself a Republican because I am one.
I believe in market solutions and common sense realities
and the necessity to defend ourselves against a dangerous world
and that’s about it.

The problem is now I have to be homophobic.
I have to count the number to times people go to church.
I have to deny facts and think scientific research is a long con.
I have to think poor people are getting a sweet ride.
And I have to have such a stunning inferiority complex that I fear education and intellect…in the 21st century.
But most of all, the biggest new requirement, really the only requirement is that I have to hate Democrats.
And I have to hate Chris Christie for not spitting on the president when he got off of Air Force One.
The two-party system is crucial to the whole operation. There is honor in being the loyal opposition. And I’m a Republican for the same reasons you are."

David, you and others like you call the McAvoy character a Republican In Name Only apparently because he is not willing to get down into the gutter where so many Republicans now reside.

Thanks for reminding us of that.

That 's apparent to YOU, Frank: a vivid hallucination.
I reject it. I accept homosexuals & don t take account
of anyone 's attendance at any Church, etc.
I reject that leftist propaganda and I repudiate the RINO.
He 's a fake. He does not represent our principles of liberty.

David

The fact that Dave resorts to a moniker like "RINO"
makes your point exactly.

Join the GOP, drink the Koolaid.

yeh, all you hve to do is trim out all these excess brown and poor people.
Why we oughta be a country of no more than 36 million, like Canada.

When Dave says "War on poverty" he has something else entirely in mind.

you do realize that Hollywood is composed almost 100% with D sympathizers, right?