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Is There Any Chance Christie Did NOT Know About the Dirty Tricks?

 
 
Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 5 Feb, 2015 01:57 pm
@izzythepush,
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Because there's no such thing as indirect taxation. You're having a laugh.

I'm well aware of indirect taxation. It's one of the reasons why our prices can be high. People like myself always warn people like you about them every time you want to increase taxes on businesses and services. You can thank yourself for those. In the end the consumer always pays for the tax increase.

I live in CO where pot is legal. If you have a medical card for pot you pay a different tax then if you are buying it for personal use. What's the cost difference? For a half ounce or about 14 grams for you metric people, you will pay about $130 with medical card. You will pay about double for personal use, and it's all taxes. 10% tax on the sale from the grower to the seller and then a 15% sales tax when someone buys from the seller. The seller is passing along that 10% tax they have to pay. There are a few shops around here who have the total pricing on big boards in the shops so consumers know why they are paying so much.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 5 Feb, 2015 02:31 pm
@Baldimo,
It's not like the poor rich are being made to pay more, they're already paying less, tax havens, loopholes, all manner of **** means they pay a lot less than the rest of us. If the top 1% owns just over half the World's wealth they should pay just over half the World's taxes. Do they ****.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 5 Feb, 2015 03:02 pm
@izzythepush,
But they are being made to pay more. I deal in dollars, you deal in percentage. If you are talking about a percentage of their income, there is a reason for that. Who's this us you are referring to? You don't even live in the US and don't have to deal with our poor. Our tax code is different than your tax code, why don't you get yours changed? I'm a fan of changing our tax code, but not in the direction you want it to go. I'd be a fan of lowering taxes and getting rid of the loopholes. Same goes for corp taxes. Our entire tax code is over complicated.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 5 Feb, 2015 03:38 pm
@Baldimo,
Our tax code may be over-complicated, Baldimo...

...but the notion that anyone would be willing to accept a tiny percentage of the population owning the vast majority of the nation's wealth is revoltingly disgusting.

And I probably do not have to point out (although I will) "revoltingly disgusting" stinks a lot more than "over-complicated."

I have no idea of how you got to where you are in your political philosophy...but you ought to resent all the factors that got you there.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 5 Feb, 2015 04:03 pm
@Baldimo,
I'm a citizen of planet Earth, most Socialists are Internationalists.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 5 Feb, 2015 05:01 pm
@Baldimo,
So this isn't about homelessness or starvation, its about not having the drive to be rich. Its all about the philosophy that one deserves whatever it is one can get way with.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 5 Feb, 2015 08:46 pm
@Baldimo,
Why not? The rich have been have been pumping the middle class and the poor for the little they had.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 5 Feb, 2015 08:54 pm
@Frank Apisa,
His daddy is probably very rich and he is afraid that the government will take the majority of daddy's wealth and force him, Baldimo, to work for a living.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 5 Feb, 2015 09:27 pm
@izzythepush,
Just one planet Izzy? I am a citizen of all 8 planets of the Solar System.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2015 04:41 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
I actually respect what Jose Mujica has done


Even though he represents everything you hate? Given the choice you would vote for the corrupt politician who used his position to get rich, in the mistaken belief it's good for business.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2015 08:18 am
@RABEL222,
I think Baldimo is so irrevocably wedded to the far right agenda (propaganda might be a better word) that he is forced into these bizarre, irrational positions and defenses.

When I essentially asked if he would accept a situation where one individual owned all of the wealth of our nation…and he indicated that would be okay with him…he lost all credibility.

This is no longer about Baldimo sharing his views on how best to manage country and economy…but rather Baldimo showing unrelenting devotion to the barons who pull his strings...to the philosophy the barons propose to cement their place.

It is sad, but we all have to realize this is a choice he is free to make.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2015 08:35 am
@Frank Apisa,
A belief in rugged individualism is one thing when you're working the frontier, it's quite another once all the mineral rights have been divvied out.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2015 09:18 am
TRENTON — The reviews are in on Gov. Chris Christie's trip to the United Kingdom, and they are not good.

"I think the trip was an utter failure," said Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian at Rice University and the author of bestseller, The Reagan Diaries.
"It should have been a trip of 'good behavior' instead of showing a short fuse, because by any time an American leader goes abroad, there's a diplomatic nature to the trip."

Billed as a trade mission, the three-day trip to the Great Britain that ended on Tuesday quickly devolved into a vaccine imbroglio of the governor's own making, dominating headlines and forcing him to retreat from the mediawithout taking questions.

"Instead, he came across like a bull carrying his own china shop with him," said Brinkley.

Brinkley said Christie then revealed a lack of control when he snarled at a Washington Post reporter who pressed him on the West's response to ISIS, "Is there something you don't understand about 'No questions'?"


From NJ AdvanceMedia. Read the full article here:


http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/02/chris_christies_uk_trip_a_failure_experts_say.html?ath=e4c10c8334a117b0a73baa73ae10d529#cmpid=nsltr_strybutton
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2015 09:57 am
@Frank Apisa,
There's been absolutely nothing on the news about it, save a brief mention on teletext. He's not really newsworthy, a fat bloke from New Jersey looking around London, not exactly an isolated event.

I bet 99%+ of the people have no idea who he is.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2015 10:22 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

There's been absolutely nothing on the news about it, save a brief mention on teletext. He's not really newsworthy, a fat bloke from New Jersey looking around London, not exactly an isolated event.

I bet 99%+ of the people have no idea who he is.


Unfortunately, here in New Jersey...we know exactly who...and what...he is!

I only hope we do not impose him on the rest of the country...and thereby, on the rest of the world.

I've referred to him as an empty suit...but in his case, the expression has a ludicrous component that I prefer to avoid.




http://wooderice.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/chris-christie-eating.jpg
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2015 12:30 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Our tax code may be over-complicated, Baldimo...

...but the notion that anyone would be willing to accept a tiny percentage of the population owning the vast majority of the nation's wealth is revoltingly disgusting.

And I probably do not have to point out (although I will) "revoltingly disgusting" stinks a lot more than "over-complicated."

Nope, complicated works just fine.

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I have no idea of how you got to where you are in your political philosophy...but you ought to resent all the factors that got you there.

HA HA HA.

Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2015 12:50 pm
@RABEL222,
How little you really know and pay attention. My fathers not wealthy, he's works for the govt. I work for a living myself and work long hours, did you not see my post about the company I work for?
http://able2know.org/topic/265491-1

Sorry to say Rabel, but I've busted my ass for everything I have. I stared at min wage and I now make over 80k a year. I saw a ladder and climbed it. My success is earned not given to me.

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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2015 01:53 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Quote:
Our tax code may be over-complicated, Baldimo...

...but the notion that anyone would be willing to accept a tiny percentage of the population owning the vast majority of the nation's wealth is revoltingly disgusting.

And I probably do not have to point out (although I will) "revoltingly disgusting" stinks a lot more than "over-complicated."

Nope, complicated works just fine.



I realize that. That is why I feel a kind of pity for you.

Quote:
Quote:
I have no idea of how you got to where you are in your political philosophy...but you ought to resent all the factors that got you there.

HA HA HA.




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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2015 02:01 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Good thing your personal opinion doesn't mean anything to me Frank. Besides the personal digs, do you have anything of substance to add? I'm guessing you don't. Most of your responses to me have personal digs.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2015 02:10 pm
@izzythepush,
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I bet 99%+ of the people have no idea who he is.


And the ones that do, know about as much about him as a Trivial Pursuit/New Jersey Edition© 2015 answer on a card. The one thing you need to know is that there is nothing he wouldn't sink to if he thought it might make him President. He's also a thug if his opponent is a woman or aged or better yet an aged woman. Truly a dismal human.
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