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Is There Any Chance Christie Did NOT Know About the Dirty Tricks?

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
  4  
Reply Mon 13 Jan, 2014 05:36 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
David, you and others like you call the McAvoy character a Republican In Name Only
apparently because he is not willing to get down into the gutter
where so many Republicans now reside.

Thanks for reminding us of that.
FOR THE RECORD:
I just didn't feel that Frank's gutteral remark was worthy of notice;
not worth my time.

Real Republicans fight to curtail, reduce and strangle
the domestic jurisdiction of government so as to EXALT
the Individual American citizen in his FREEDOM. THAT 's what its all about.





David


Yeah, David...I see.

You use "real Republicans" the way Sarah Palin used the term "real Americans."

As I said, if you Republicans ever got rid of all the haters...you would be able to hold your national convention in a small town hall.

There is a reason American conservatism is so popular among the intellectuals of the rural South!
hawkeye10
 
  2  
Reply Mon 13 Jan, 2014 06:58 pm
How well do you figure the fat man is sleeping these days? It is only a matter of time before someone or some e-mail nails him for good.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Jan, 2014 08:28 pm
@Frank Apisa,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
David, you and others like you call the McAvoy character a Republican In Name Only
apparently because he is not willing to get down into the gutter
where so many Republicans now reside.

Thanks for reminding us of that.
FOR THE RECORD:
I just didn't feel that Frank's gutteral remark was worthy of notice;
not worth my time.

Real Republicans fight to curtail, reduce and strangle
the domestic jurisdiction of government so as to EXALT
the Individual American citizen in his FREEDOM. THAT 's what its all about.





David
Frank Apisa wrote:
Yeah, David...I see.

You use "real Republicans" the way Sarah Palin used the term "real Americans."
OK. Don t hijack our label,
if u don t represent our principles (essentially, those of the Sons of Liberty).


Frank Apisa wrote:
As I said, if you Republicans ever got rid of all the haters...you would
be able to hold your national convention in a small town hall.
About 5O or 6O years ago,
I used to be younger than now.
In my youth, I was more emotional.
I feared communist imperialism
and I hated it n those who supported it.

I have abandoned hatred. When Clinton was in office,
a lot of my friends n acquaintances were busy hating him.
I thawt that devotion of mental energy was wasted
n too much of a burden. Not everyone agrees with me.



Frank Apisa wrote:
There is a reason American conservatism is so popular
among the intellectuals of the rural South!
Yea, a good part of the American Revolution began there.
Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Patrick Henry all came from there.
I came from NY. So far as I was able to see,
the love of liberty was dead from loss of interest there.
I am very happy in Florida.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Jan, 2014 08:35 pm

Did u miss this one ??




hawkeye10 wrote:

you do realize that Hollywood is composed almost 100% with D sympathizers, right?
Frank Apisa wrote:
I realize that conservatives consider anyone who will not march in lock step
with their conservative masters...

...is considered a D sympathizer and a liberal.

I just don't think that is the way things are, Hawk. And while I have many, many very conservative friends...I consider American conservatism to be one of the most disgusting political philosophies ever to pollute this planet. I think the grass-roots American conservative is being led around like an ox with a nose ring.

I, myself, and not a Democrat...nor a liberal.
COMMUNIST ????
A Marxist-Leninist ????????

Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Jan, 2014 09:25 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:


Did u miss this one ??




hawkeye10 wrote:

you do realize that Hollywood is composed almost 100% with D sympathizers, right?
Frank Apisa wrote:
I realize that conservatives consider anyone who will not march in lock step
with their conservative masters...

...is considered a D sympathizer and a liberal.

I just don't think that is the way things are, Hawk. And while I have many, many very conservative friends...I consider American conservatism to be one of the most disgusting political philosophies ever to pollute this planet. I think the grass-roots American conservative is being led around like an ox with a nose ring.

I, myself, and not a Democrat...nor a liberal.
COMMUNIST ????
A Marxist-Leninist ????????




No.

A human being who enjoys thinking for himself.

Thanks for asking.
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Jan, 2014 09:27 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
David, you and others like you call the McAvoy character a Republican In Name Only
apparently because he is not willing to get down into the gutter
where so many Republicans now reside.

Thanks for reminding us of that.
FOR THE RECORD:
I just didn't feel that Frank's gutteral remark was worthy of notice;
not worth my time.

Real Republicans fight to curtail, reduce and strangle
the domestic jurisdiction of government so as to EXALT
the Individual American citizen in his FREEDOM. THAT 's what its all about.





David
Frank Apisa wrote:
Yeah, David...I see.

You use "real Republicans" the way Sarah Palin used the term "real Americans."
OK. Don t hijack our label,
if u don t represent our principles (essentially, those of the Sons of Liberty).


Frank Apisa wrote:
As I said, if you Republicans ever got rid of all the haters...you would
be able to hold your national convention in a small town hall.
About 5O or 6O years ago,
I used to be younger than now.
In my youth, I was more emotional.
I feared communist imperialism
and I hated it n those who supported it.

I have abandoned hatred. When Clinton was in office,
a lot of my friends n acquaintances were busy hating him.
I thawt that devotion of mental energy was wasted
n too much of a burden. Not everyone agrees with me.



Frank Apisa wrote:
There is a reason American conservatism is so popular
among the intellectuals of the rural South!
Yea, a good part of the American Revolution began there.
Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Patrick Henry all came from there.
I came from NY. So far as I was able to see,
the love of liberty was dead from loss of interest there.
I am very happy in Florida.





David


Right...the reason American conservatism is so popular in the American South is because those people came from there.

C'mon, David. Get back to consciousness.
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 01:11 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Right...the reason American conservatism is so popular
in the American South is because those people came from there.

C'mon, David. Get back to consciousness.
Yes; the spirit of personal liberty
has not been extinguished in the South.
Living in NY, I found no trace of it, other than the proud defiance
by the users of fireworks on the 4th of July, regardless of the law.
(That was pleasingly appropriate; the 4th of July was the repudiation of law day.)

Year after year, there was not much recognition of the principle
of Individual Liberty at the expense of government jurisdiction
which that Day commemorates, other than the Mayor hollering
about NOT setting off illegal fireworks, instead of supporting
the Spirit of the occasion. Years and decades went by and NO
politician that I can remember spoke of fighting for LIBERTY;
it was just forgotten in NY, but not in the South.
That tells me that Southerners were better Americans
than my former nabors were. I was almost alone in putting out
the Flag in celebration of Old Glory, on my block in Queens
on the 4th of July. I guess Sarah was right.


I 'm pleased to know that u r not a commie; presumably not a nazi,
tho I did not ask that. Marx, Kennedy and Hitler were human beings
who enjoyed thinking for themselves.
BillRM
 
  1  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 06:39 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Yes; the spirit of personal liberty
has not been extinguished in the South.


Personal liberties and the south!!!!!!!!!

You know the south where US military forces needed to be employ in our life times with fixed bayonets to allow school children of the "wrong" color to go to schools?

Where laws are still being pass to force women to have ultrasound devices place into their bodies against their wishes in order to have an abortion?

Is that the south with personal liberties you are referring to?

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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 07:02 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
Right...the reason American conservatism is so popular
in the American South is because those people came from there.

C'mon, David. Get back to consciousness.
Yes; the spirit of personal liberty
has not been extinguished in the South.
Living in NY, I found no trace of it, other than the proud defiance
by the users of fireworks on the 4th of July, regardless of the law.
(That was pleasingly appropriate; the 4th of July was the repudiation of law day.)

Year after year, there was not much recognition of the principle
of Individual Liberty at the expense of government jurisdiction
which that Day commemorates, other than the Mayor hollering
about NOT setting off illegal fireworks, instead of supporting
the Spirit of the occasion. Years and decades went by and NO
politician that I can remember spoke of fighting for LIBERTY;
it was just forgotten in NY, but not in the South.
That tells me that Southerners were better Americans
than my former nabors were. I was almost alone in putting out
the Flag in celebration of Old Glory, on my block in Queens
on the 4th of July. I guess Sarah was right.


I 'm pleased to know that u r not a commie; presumably not a nazi,
tho I did not ask that. Marx, Kennedy and Hitler were human beings
who enjoyed thinking for themselves.


Like I said, David...without the racists, misogynists, and general haters...American conservatism wouldn't exercise enough influence on our nation's politics to get a needed street light erected. They and the rock-hard stupid people who back people intent on oppressing them...are the bedrock of American conservatism.

I have no problem with your delight in being one with them...that is your right.

OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 07:22 am
@Frank Apisa,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
Right...the reason American conservatism is so popular
in the American South is because those people came from there.

C'mon, David. Get back to consciousness.
Yes; the spirit of personal liberty
has not been extinguished in the South.
Living in NY, I found no trace of it, other than the proud defiance
by the users of fireworks on the 4th of July, regardless of the law.
(That was pleasingly appropriate; the 4th of July was the repudiation of law day.)

Year after year, there was not much recognition of the principle
of Individual Liberty at the expense of government jurisdiction
which that Day commemorates, other than the Mayor hollering
about NOT setting off illegal fireworks, instead of supporting
the Spirit of the occasion. Years and decades went by and NO
politician that I can remember spoke of fighting for LIBERTY;
it was just forgotten in NY, but not in the South.
That tells me that Southerners were better Americans
than my former nabors were. I was almost alone in putting out
the Flag in celebration of Old Glory, on my block in Queens
on the 4th of July. I guess Sarah was right.


I 'm pleased to know that u r not a commie; presumably not a nazi,
tho I did not ask that. Marx, Kennedy and Hitler were human beings
who enjoyed thinking for themselves.


Frank Apisa wrote:
Like I said, David...without the racists, misogynists, and general haters...American conservatism wouldn't exercise enough influence on our nation's politics to get a needed street light erected. They and the rock-hard stupid people who back people intent on oppressing them[????]...are the bedrock of American conservatism.

I have no problem with your delight in being one with them...that is your right.
WHAT oppression is THAT????
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 07:42 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
Right...the reason American conservatism is so popular
in the American South is because those people came from there.

C'mon, David. Get back to consciousness.
Yes; the spirit of personal liberty
has not been extinguished in the South.
Living in NY, I found no trace of it, other than the proud defiance
by the users of fireworks on the 4th of July, regardless of the law.
(That was pleasingly appropriate; the 4th of July was the repudiation of law day.)

Year after year, there was not much recognition of the principle
of Individual Liberty at the expense of government jurisdiction
which that Day commemorates, other than the Mayor hollering
about NOT setting off illegal fireworks, instead of supporting
the Spirit of the occasion. Years and decades went by and NO
politician that I can remember spoke of fighting for LIBERTY;
it was just forgotten in NY, but not in the South.
That tells me that Southerners were better Americans
than my former nabors were. I was almost alone in putting out
the Flag in celebration of Old Glory, on my block in Queens
on the 4th of July. I guess Sarah was right.


I 'm pleased to know that u r not a commie; presumably not a nazi,
tho I did not ask that. Marx, Kennedy and Hitler were human beings
who enjoyed thinking for themselves.


Frank Apisa wrote:
Like I said, David...without the racists, misogynists, and general haters...American conservatism wouldn't exercise enough influence on our nation's politics to get a needed street light erected. They and the rock-hard stupid people who back people intent on oppressing them[????]...are the bedrock of American conservatism.

I have no problem with your delight in being one with them...that is your right.
WHAT oppression is THAT????


Well...this will be tough to get through to you, because you are one of the people steadying the hands of people trying to slit your throat, David...but let me give it a try by asking you to envision something...and see if that can lead you to what I am thinking when I wrote those words.

During feudal days, there were always peasants willing to stand up and defend the rights of the barons and lords to have everything...and to allow a tiny bit to trickle through to the masses. The willing peasants actually counselled other peasants to be thankful and grateful for the meager leavings...and to accept their lot as lackeys and peons...because that is what GOD decreed for them.

American conservatives are analogous to those poor, deceived, willing peasants, David.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 07:43 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Like I said, David...without the racists, misogynists, and general haters...American conservatism wouldn't exercise enough influence on our nation's politics to get a needed street light erected. They and the rock-hard stupid people who back people intent on oppressing them[????]...are the bedrock of American conservatism.

I have no problem with your delight in being one with them...that is your right.

WHAT oppression is THAT????

I always find it useful to remember that every single thing that Frank Apisa ever says is without exception always an outright lie.

Many conservatives were at the core of the civil rights movement.
Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 07:54 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Like I said, David...without the racists, misogynists, and general haters...American conservatism wouldn't exercise enough influence on our nation's politics to get a needed street light erected. They and the rock-hard stupid people who back people intent on oppressing them[????]...are the bedrock of American conservatism.

I have no problem with your delight in being one with them...that is your right.

WHAT oppression is THAT????

I always find it useful to remember that every single thing that Frank Apisa ever says is without exception always an outright lie.

Many conservatives were at the core of the civil rights movement.


Too bad you feel that way, Oralloy, because I...probably like most people here in A2K...think you are a wonderful guy.

You always post such intelligent, well-conceived and well-constructed arguments...and like most people I think you are a huge benefit to the community.

Wink
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 08:38 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
The fact that Dave resorts to a moniker like "RINO" makes your point exactly. Join the GOP, drink the Koolaid.

Why do so many Democrats call me a DINO?
Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 08:42 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

farmerman wrote:
The fact that Dave resorts to a moniker like "RINO" makes your point exactly. Join the GOP, drink the Koolaid.

Why do so many Democrats call me a DINO?


Because they think you are a wonderful, thoughtful human being...but so cuddly, they want to think of you like a pet dinosaur?

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wmwcjr
 
  3  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 10:55 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Many conservatives were at the core of the civil rights movement.


My intention in posting here is not to disparage you. I'm sure in real life you're a very likable person, but your assertion is absolutely ridiculous. I'm assuming you're saying that many conservatives supported the civil rights movement of the 1950s and the early 1960s. That just isn't so, to put it mildly. I'm amazed this line would ever be seriously advanced by anyone; but, of course, those who do are counting on the historical ignorance or amnesia of others. As someone who grew up under Jim Crow in the South, I ought to know.
Baldimo
 
  1  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 10:59 am
@wmwcjr,
The south was run by the Dems until the early 90's. From the 1940's until the 1990's it was in total Dem control.
BillRM
 
  2  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 11:05 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Many conservatives were at the core of the civil rights movement.


You got to be kidding me as is was not conservatives that went south and risk and sometime lost their lives in supporting the civil rights movement in the south.

Talk about trying to re-write history to that degree!!!!!!!
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hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 11:05 am
@wmwcjr,
Quote:
I'm assuming you're saying that many conservatives supported the civil rights movement of the 1950s and the early 1960s. That just isn't so, to put it mildly.


Quote:
While Birmingham's fire hoses and police dogs roiled the nation, GOP senators issued this statement in June 1963: "The Republican Members of the U.S. Senate ... reassert the basic principles of the party with respect to civil rights, and further affirm that the president, with the support of Congress, consistent with its duties as defined in the Constitution, must protect the rights of all U.S. citizens regardless of race, creed, color, or national origin."

Then they put their words into action. The 1964 Civil Rights Act passed the House with 80% of the GOP vote, compared with support from only 61% of Democrats. In the Senate, 82% of Republicans voted for it; only 69% of Democrats did. When the Voting Rights Act passed one year later, Republicans again outpaced the Democrats

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/08/20/gop-march-on-washington-civil-rights-column/2679089/
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2014 11:06 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

The south was run by the Dems until the early 90's. From the 1940's until the 1990's it was in total Dem control.


Yeah...and the conservatives in the south ran the Democratic Party there.

Any assertion that the conservatives of this country contributed too the civil rights movement is insane!
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