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So Saying That Folks Should Follow Christian Morals is NOW A Firing Offense

 
 
ehBeth
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 04:49 pm
@BillRM,
I agree with you Bill.

I am distressed by hawkeye's interest in preventing the public from seeing/hearing things that are icky to him.
hawkeye10
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 04:50 pm
@ehBeth,
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want to talk about Michael J Fox again?
sure, because I was right again, very few people had any interest in watching him.

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disabled children in the public school system?
sure, because we have done nothing to deal with the outrageous expense and negative impacts to the education of all of having partially functioning kids in regular schools where they do not belong.
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Rockhead
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 04:51 pm
@ehBeth,
only the people he deems of value to his "collective" get a voice.

you know that.

it's what zen socialism is based on.

that and bdsm...
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hawkeye10
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 04:51 pm
@firefly,
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That's why it's important to speak out and identify the bigots and purveyors of hate,
if they are so hard to identify that regular folk need help in finding them i have to wonder if we should be concerned at all.
BillRM
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 04:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
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if they are so hard to identify that regular folk need help in finding them i have to wonder if we should be concerned at all.


LOL............Do you not know Hawkeye that we need GAALD and such outfits to censor what we can hear and who is allow on the public airwaves or in this case the cable networks.
hawkeye10
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 05:04 pm
@BillRM,
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As media professor Jeffrey McCall of DePauw University told the Los Angeles Times, "If A&E wants the Robertsons to make money for the channel by being authentic, then at some point A&E has to accept that reality stars will be real human beings. If A&E didn't like the Robertsons as they are, then why did they give them a weekly platform?"
"Duck Dynasty" is a slice-of-life show. No one has to watch it. Obviously something about it has struck a chord with viewers. Of course, "All in the Family" also struck a chord and probably as many people were agreeing with Archie Bunker as were laughing at him.
Odds are that if A&E had let this play out a little and given Robertson room to make some sort of mea culpa, this would have died down. A&E could also have made clear that Robertson's remarks to GQ would be addressed on the show itself.
Now A&E has to decide who to bow to first -- pressure groups or the Robertsons. Either way it looks bad.


http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-duck-dynasty-sitting-duck-20131220,0,2232480.story#ixzz2oR6hp3fY


A&E claims that firing duck dude was all about values, they absolutely could not not fire him and preserve their integrity according to them....what the firing proves is that they DONT have integrity, because they knew full well who these people were before they hired them, it was WHY they were hired.
BillRM
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 05:21 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Of course, "All in the Family" also struck a chord and probably as many people were agreeing with Archie Bunker as were laughing at him.


I can still remember Archie solution to airlines high-jacking .

Arming all the passengers as they come aboard the plane and it would had indeed stop the 911 high-jackings.

A TV character indeed ahead of his time.....LOL
Rockhead
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 05:22 pm
@BillRM,
satire is a lost art, eh billy...?
hawkeye10
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 05:27 pm
@BillRM,
Carrol O' connor said years latter that he had expected most people would be laughing at Archies expense, not because they agreed with him, and that maybe he should not have done the show because he was wrong about that. Today he would not have the choice, as it would never be allowed to be aired.

We have gone backwards, the Hays code is beginning to look tolerant in comparison to todays enforced prohibitions on content.
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hawkeye10
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 05:32 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

satire is a lost art, eh billy...?


son, why dont you go outside and play, the adults are trying to have a conversation.
hawkeye10
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 05:41 pm
@hawkeye10,
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In an interview two months ago with the Christian Post, Robertson said that television editors in Los Angeles "with no moral compass" have routinely manipulated the show's footage to intensify the language and make the family appear more profane and unruly than they really are.
"They inserted fake beeps like somebody had used profanity, but no one had used profanity. If you want that, you can get all of that you want," Robertson continued. "Just turn the station. There's plenty of that! And if we're not using profanity, why make it look like we're using profanity? What is the point? Why don't you just run it and say what we say?".
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That is, Robertson was suspended for doing in print what he has, for the last four years, been paid to do on television.
That's awfully hypocritical of A&E. The network is embarrassed and would surely like to distance itself from the Robertson family. However, it seems, it would like to stay acquainted with the millions of dollars the show generates each year.
The network should be embarrassed. Not by what Robertson said; it couldn't control that. It should be embarrassed about what it could control: the way it responded and the mess it made of this situation.
In discussing this story, commentators have been talking a lot about rights. Robertson had the right to express his opinion. The network that has chosen to co-mingle its brand with the Robertson brand had the right to suspend him. Viewers who support the family have the right to boycott the network.
But with rights come responsibilities, and -- as far as A&E executives are concerned -- they include the responsibility to avoid the hypocrisy of continuing to profit from a persona they created that they now claim to find offensive.
Now if you'll excuse me, I think the "Duck Dynasty" holiday marathon is well under way

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/24/opinion/navarrette-duck-dynasty-network/index.html?hpt=hp_t4

yep
Rockhead
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 05:47 pm
@hawkeye10,
with my white trash friends?

I have to admit, you get a lot of mileage out of very little intellect.

you and billy go ahead and discuss whatever it is grown ups do...
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firefly
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 06:00 pm
@hawkeye10,
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if they are so hard to identify that regular folk need help in finding them i have to wonder if we should be concerned at all

Oh, the purveyors of bigotry and hatred are not hard to identify at all. Several are quite visible in this thread. It's silence in response to what they say we should be concerned about, not the sentiments they voice.

I'd be much more concerned if they're weren't some outrage about Robertson's blatantly bigoted remarks, because negatively stereotyping, and demeaning, and defaming, and inciting hatred toward, an entire group, should not be met with neutrality, let alone indifference, if we have any humanistic values.

These remarks are not legitimate Biblical sentiments--they are personal expressions of bigotry, designed to promote hatred.
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“Women with women. Men with men. They committed indecent acts with one another. And they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion,” Robertson said in the video. “They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God haters. They are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless, they invent ways of doing evil.”
http://www.deadline.com/2013/12/ae-grapples-with-death-threats-and-clan-ultimatum-on-duck-dynasty-star-suspension/


Robertson promotes intolerance, and, for that reason, it is rather ironic that he's become the current poster boy for someone his supporters, like Sarah Palin, feel should not only be tolerated, but who, further, represents "Christian morals" and "American Values". Well, that may be true if Christians no longer believe in the Golden Rule, and Americans have stopped believing that all men are created equal.

If A & E wants to continue to employee someone who promotes intolerance and hate, that's all right with me, that's their business, if they don't want to continue employing someone like that, that's also their business, and it's all right with me. It's up to me whether I want to patronize their business by viewing their channel and programing. That's the extent of my control as a consumer. I can take my viewing elsewhere.

But I'd never try to silence those, like GL.A.A.D, who have every reason and right to protest being defamed in this way, nor would I try to demean and marginalize their efforts by dismissing them as some "minority pressure group", rather than according them a legitimate civil rights advocacy, for a group that has historically been on the receiving end of considerable discrimination and hate. We should applaud them for speaking out.
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firefly
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 06:05 pm
@BillRM,
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Do you not know Hawkeye that we need GAALD and such outfits to censor what we can hear and who is allow on the public airwaves or in this case the cable networks.

I think you have the wrong group. It's the right-wing, and anti-gay, Family Research Council that's been trying to do that.
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Thomas
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 06:05 pm
@Lash,
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If Rush Limbaugh said the same about Hillary Clinton, you'd see it differently.

Sarah Palin did something like that when she used those bullseye icons in her campaign against specific supporters gun control. No Democrat (that I know of) ever dragged her in court for it --- not even after one of her targets, Congresswoman Gabby Giffords, actually did get shot.

MSNBC had good reason to fire Martin Bashir, but America's hate-speech laws weren't among them.
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LvB
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 11:07 pm
@coldjoint,
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Go **** yourself, you arrogant bastard.


Well, that's not very Christian...
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Tue 24 Dec, 2013 11:37 pm
@BillRM,
You took what I wrote out of context. I won't debate it under such circumstances.
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parados
 
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Wed 25 Dec, 2013 10:12 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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Cards with religious themes are given to the Chaplain service to distribute to service members


Prove it, asswipe.

It's in the original story that was the source for what you posted.
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parados
 
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Wed 25 Dec, 2013 10:16 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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Twitter, is not, of course, and organ of government


Neither is Snopes. Let your buddy Parados in on that.

When did Snopes prevent you from speaking or fire you for what you said? Snopes looks at statements and examines facts to find out if those statements are true.

You get more idiotic every day it seems. It seems you think free speech means you get to lie all you want and no one can point out you are lying and if they do point out your lies that infringes on your free speech. I wonder what idiotic claim you will make tomorrow or next year.
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hawkeye10
 
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Wed 25 Dec, 2013 03:20 pm
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“The URL IStandWithPhil.com was mistakenly flagged as spam tonight, by an outside organization that tracks spam sources. We have restored access and apologize for the error,” Twitter said in a statement to news site Marketing Land.

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/duck-dynasty-twitter-apologizes-mistakenly-blocking-istandwithphil-com-151255749.html

Cracker Barrel, Twitter, that makes two...is A&E next to retract their punishment?
 

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