My first choice for the next President

Opinion. Liz knows how government works. Can work with legislators. Does not have pie in the sky ideas. Knows what is possible and what is not. Will return government to sane policies. Won't invite Putin and the Chinese to take over our government. She looks good to me and all the petty negative shyt isjust political b s like was posted against Clinton in 2016. The Russians and their allies the 1% are at it again.

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@Lash,

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You can’t see what I show you when you close your eyes.

No cred for you, Real Dishonesty. No wonder you like Lying Warren.

If you want to talk about someone who is dishonest, misleading, and lacks any credibility of any sort,
I strongly suggest that you look in a mirror.
Because, that is what you will clearly see in your reflection.
I suspect most of us already see you for who or what you really are.
I'm not saying anything to you, that others don't already know about you.
And many have also said about you.
No one is being fooled by you Lash.
My eyes are wide open. I see right through you.

If you wished to continue to go back and fourth with me, please do.
I'm just sitting around chillin right now.
I could use the entertainment you are providing me.

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@Real Music,

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You can’t see what I show you when you close your eyes.
No cred for you, Real Dishonesty. No wonder you like Lying Warren.

Still magically unable to read facts. I wonder what the motivation is. Brock bot.

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Published February 8, 2017

Sen. Elizabeth Warren explains why she read Coretta Scott King's letter on the Senate floor and reacts to her Senate rebuke.

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Published February 8, 2017

Senator Bernie Sanders reads the same Coretta Scott King letter that put Senator Elizabeth Warren in trouble,
prefacing it with the expectations the Senate has to debate important issues.

1. Bernie Sanders reads Scott King letter, calls Elizabeth Warren’s silencing ‘incomprehensible’

2. Sanders also insists that Elizabeth Warren is owed an apology.

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...which only amplifies what a stand up guy Bernie Sanders is.

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@Lash,

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...which only amplifies what a stand up guy Bernie Sanders is.

Anyone one who has read my many post and many threads are very aware that I actually like and respect Bernie Sanders. I strongly believe that you already knew that to be the case. I like Bernie Sanders and I refuse to attack him.

The difference between you and I Lash, is that
I also like and respect the following individuals in no particular order:

1. Congressman John Lewis (DEMOCRAT)
2. Congresswoman Maxine Waters (DEMOCRAT)
3. Senator Elizabeth Warren (DEMOCRAT)
4. Congressman Elijah Cummings (DEMOCRAT)
5. Former President Barack Obama (DEMOCRAT)
6. Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (DEMOCRAT)
7. Former Secretary Hillary Clinton (DEMOCRAT)
8. Former Congressman Barney Frank (DEMOCRAT)
9. Speaker Nancy Pelosi (DEMOCRAT)
10. Former Vice President Joe Biden (DEMOCRAT)
11. And many many other good democrats

Once again the order in which I listed these wonderful individuals are completely RANDOM.
So, don't read anything into the actual order.
The point that I am making is that I like and respect everyone person on this list.
These are not the only ones I like and respect.
These are just a few.
And as you already know I definitely like and respect Bernie Sanders.

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@Real Music,

For some Bernie Supporters which has the effect of being off putting, it is rather like this, "I am a jealous guy, put no other guy before me." They give him a godlike status which he doesn't do himself. After all, he supported Hillary Clinton after he lost the primary when many of those chose a third party or even Trump himself which contributed to Trump winning the 16' presidential election. Totally defeated the whole progressive agenda as well ushering in conservative judges we will have for the rest of our lifetimes.

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Published April 16, 2017

Senator Elizabeth Warren: The fighter

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@revelette1,

She’s full of her own small opinions—most early Bernie advocates have been around the block politically speaking, and are watching the candidates very closely. We see who they are and it’s more than a little infuriating that they lie and deceive with such ease.

Either political rubes or people who approve the deception don’t notice or pretend not to.

I’ll point it out every time.

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@revelette1,

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For some Bernie Supporters which has the effect of being off putting, it is rather like this, "I am a jealous guy, put no other guy before me." They give him a godlike status which he doesn't do himself. After all, he supported Hillary Clinton after he lost the primary when many of those chose a third party or even Trump himself which contributed to Trump winning the 16' presidential election. Totally defeated the whole progressive agenda as well ushering in conservative judges we will have for the rest of our lifetimes.

1. Everything you are saying here is on point and I completely agree with you.

2. All moderate democrats and all progressive democrats need to come together and support whichever candidate that ends up earning the nomination.

3. Sitting out the election and staying home only helps Trump get re-elected.

4. Voting for a third party candidate such another Jill Stein only helps Trump get re-elected.

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@revelette1,

This is only a suspicion.

I suspect that Conservative pundits and the Russian propaganda machine will be pushing and promoting a Tulsi Gabbard third party candidacy.

There obvious goal is to sow division in the democratic party, which ultimately helps Trump to get re-elected.

In other words, I suspect that the conservative pundits and the Russian propaganda machine is looking to make Tulsi Gabbard the Jill Stein of the 2020 election.

That strategy help get Trump elected the first time.

I suspect Conservative pundits and the Russian propaganda machine will try to duplicate some of the same strategies they used the last time to get Trump elected.

This is only a suspicion.
I hope I am wrong.

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@Real Music,

Real Music wrote:

This is only a suspicion.

I suspect that Conservative pundits and the Russian propaganda machine will be pushing and promoting a Tulsi Gabbard third party candidacy.

There obvious goal is to sow division in the democratic party, which ultimately helps Trump to get re-elected.

In other words, I suspect that the conservative pundits and the Russian propaganda machine is looking to make Tulsi Gabbard the Jill Stein of the 2020 election.

That strategy help get Trump elected the first time.

I suspect Conservative pundits and the Russian propaganda machine will try to duplicate some of the same strategies they used the last time to get Trump elected.

This is only a suspicion.
I hope I am wrong.

I don't think there is much need to divide Democrats since they are really only unified around a single issue anyway: oust Republicans from positions where they can obstruct socialism.

The only way Democrats could be divided would be to focus on different Republicans to hate, e.g. pit an anti-Pence candidate against an anti-Trump candidate.

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@livinglava,

You don't know what Socialism is. The Democrats aren't remotely Socialist, not even Sanders.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

You don't know what Socialism is. The Democrats aren't remotely Socialist, not even Sanders.

Why do you make discussion so oppositional and tiresome?

The Democrats have a party program that is obstructed by Republicans, so they seek to oust Republicans and replace them with yes-Dems that comply with whatever instructions/directions they are given from central party command.

The Democrats are not a party of independent individuals. Rather they are a party of team-players who must submit to collective authority to be acceptable to the party. If you think that Democrats respect each others' independence to form their own opinions and stances on issues, try thinking for yourself and putting forth unique ideas and see how other Democrats respond.

They will tell you that you have to unite behind established party representatives because the primary goal has to be to outnumber Republicans and wrest power away from them.

They ultimately see the economy as a collective project, not something that emerges from individual choices and voluntary interactions. So their goal is to use the government to support the economy and then use the economy to support the government's collective planning. If you don't call that socialism, I don't know why not.

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@livinglava,

I am a Socialist, proud to be one. The way you talk about Socialism is extremely ignorant and offensive. That's why.

If you continue to post fascist drivel expect to be challenged.

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@izzythepush,

Hey, izzythepush, what do you think of Boris's defeat and what does it mean for Britix?

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@revelette1,

I loathe Boris Johnson. I was over the moon when he lost. He played hardball with his own backbench threatening to have rebels kicked out of the party.

It backfired, he and his euro sceptics had rebelled countless times against May and Cameron, and Ken Clarke, Tory grandee was emboldened.

Rory Stewart won politician of the year by GQ magazine. As he was accepting his prize he read out a text he'd just got expelling him from the party.

In order for there to be a general election there needs to be a two thirds vote in favour. That won't happen yet, Johnson has just lost the first reading of the bill stopping no deal on 31/10. It has to go to the Lords and back to the Commons before it becomes law. Corbyn wants to make sure it is law before he votes for a general election.

Johnson has told a lot of lies and now they're coming back hom to roost.

How a general election will go is anybody's guess, Brexit has thrown traditional politics all over the place and there may be electoral pacts between different parties.

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@izzythepush,

Johnson has just lost the vote to hold a general election. That was always the case, Johnson is a pernicious liar, he cannot be trusted.

The legislation to halt no deal will go through. Johnson has lost his first four votes since becoming prime minister, shortest honeymoon in political history.

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If I'm derailing the thread just say, but this follows my earlier posts about Johnson.

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The government has said a bill to stop a no-deal Brexit will complete its passage through the Lords on Friday.

The proposed legislation was passed by MPs on Wednesday, inflicting a defeat on Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

There were claims pro-Brexit peers could deliberately hold up the bill so it could not get royal assent before Parliament is prorogued next week.

But the Conservative chief whip in the Lords announced a breakthrough in the early hours after talks with Labour.

The peers sat until 01:30 BST, holding a series of amendment votes that appeared to support predictions a marathon filibuster session - designed to derail the bill - was under way.

But then Lord Ashton of Hyde announced that all stages of the bill would be completed in the Lords by 17:00 BST on Friday.

He added that the Commons chief whip had also given a commitment that MPs will consider any Lords amendments on Monday and that the government intends that the "bill will be ready" to be presented for royal assent.

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn previously said his party required the bill to gain royal assent before it would consider backing Mr Johnson's call for a general election.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49588186

Re filibustering, the Government can guillotine a bill to make sure it can't be talked down. This isn't a government bill and the opposition has no such powers.

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