Motorcycle Gang vs Family in SUV

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David

Wall, I'm a 'merican so of course I would pull out my AK47, with my 1000 round clip and blast those cretins into blood pulp.

This is one of those situations where one needs their 2nd Amendment rights, and the right to defend themselves.

What would you do as the SUV driver? Would what you would change if your spouse and young child(ren) were in the car with you?
I wouldn't be trying to run down a bunch of bikers in the first place. I wouldn't be challenging a gang of bikers for control over the traffic lane we're sharing.

If at any moment, I felt in danger because of the presence of a motorcycle gang and they can be as dangerous and volatile as any other mob family or criminal gang, I'd treat them like an ambulance, firetruck, or police car going to an emergency and let them drive by regardless of whether or not I had any passengers.

Would you stick your bloody hand into a cage of hungry/famished wild rats? Would try to pick up a scared rattlesnake and give it a hug? So why try and challenge a biker gang in the first place. They may or may not be prone to violence but its safe to assume that caution should rule the day in this scenario.

the guy is lucky that they didn't make him film them taking turns with his wife, and then sell his kid to devil worshipers before feeding him his toes.

people who ride motorcycles are psycho, you know...

Something tells me you guys do not have all the facts. Especially tsar...

Video here

Were it me, my 4 wheels > 2 wheels on a bike.

Your video doesn't work.

This is the video

Hmph. It did before. Stupid youtube.

I'd agree with you if he was able to avoid it - but it is hard to tell strictly from the video what was going on.

Assuming what it looks like (and who knows what happened right before to get him into the situation) - he was surrounded by the motorcycles and then the one guy slowed down in front of him resulting in the initial bump/accident. The police report that the SUV driver was not at fault for that accident - he couldn't stop in time.

The next reports state the riders were yelling things at him and again assuming he felt he was in danger of them going after him and his family - he took off - that part seems like self defense.

But if he were able to avoid it in the first place would be the question. If he was then of course he should.

The one thing I heard someone say how they were once driving in CT and all of a sudden they were surrounded by many motorcycles. Not like she had a choice to avoid it and pull over as they were all around her. She was saying how scared she was, and luckily they just all eventually all whizzed past her. There were so many and all around and weaving in and out and coming close to all cars on the highway. She said how frightening it was. She really didn't have an option to get out of the situation - but then no one stopped directly in front of her.

I guess that is why I asked the question if anyone was ever confronted with this situation - where they were surrounded by all these motorcycles. To sort of understand from the driver's point of view - is it avoidable? Ideally that is what you want. I just think after recently coming from a trip to NY and driving on their parkways how easy they could take over.

Based on the video and what the police have released, I would have run over the motorcycles. I am not saying it is right or wrong because I don't know all the facts.

I have to admit - I would too. I think when it comes to my kids I would do what I think I needed to keep them safe. To me that is the difference - if I were on my own I might do different.

And I am not admitting it would be right or wrong either - but my kids safety comes first - parent instinct would be to protect them.

But first, if I could have avoided being in the middle of all that I would.

Let's watch the coverage for awhile. If it's motorcycle club; it's good. If it's biker gang; it's bad. Your thread title is sending mixed signals, which isn't surprising considering how much we really don't know. What I do know is that the bikers have more witnesses.

Roger per police reports:

After the incident, a police source told the NY Post: “The motorcyclists are being uncooperative, those that have been interviewed. … They’re full of crap. They’re saying they didn’t see anything. They’re saying, ‘I was just standing there.’ It’s a joke.”

The NYPD received more than 200 phone calls about the bikers on Sunday. Seems like an issue if there are more than 200 complaints.


I took the word gang from newspaper reports - of course we do need to see final reports - from what is said this "club" is more like a "gang" unlike other motorcycles clubs - these guys show boat and do stunts and such on the roadways at least at what has been reported in what I have watched and read. These same reports even have other motorcycle clubs wanting to distance themselves with this group.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57605406/nypd-makes-arrest-after-road-rage-assault-caught-on-tape/

How would this parental instinct plan have worked if and when you exposed your children to the ensuing gunfire from the bikers NOT run over by the SUV?

Assuming there is nothing nefarious in the preliminary actions of the motorcyclists, I have to look at it from their point of view too. A fellow cyclist had just been hit by the SUV and the driver took off instead of exchanging insurance info, seeking medical help, waiting for police to arrive, etc. I'd probably pursue the SUV too so I could get the license, and point out their location to the police.

I'd be getting very angry if the SUV driver kept trying to evade my attempts to get them to stop and take responsibility for what they did, especially if they injured other fellow cyclists in the process of trying to escape. Again, this presumes no nefarious motives in the whole scenario.

Not saying the final actions of the cyclists were justified, but the SUV driver was also culpable. The cyclists should have gotten the plate info and car description and not taken the vigilante actions.

Maybe they will use the stand your ground laws to defend their pursuit and fist actions.

New York, unfortunately, has no Stand Your Ground law and with the video, the SUV driver will certainly be found innocent of any charges. It's a case of a bunch of punks that dared someone and lost. The SUV drivers mistake was trying to avoid further trouble. I'd have been on the phone with 911 and would not leave the highway. I have no idea why the driver did not reverse when he hit a traffic jam.

The media reported that the suv stopped after hitting the motorcycle. The motorcyclists surrounded the suv and started slashing his tires. Slashing tires? That to me means a knife or other dangerous object.

Let the police do their investigation, then give an opinion (including me).

I agree if he had a cell phone. Not everyone has one!