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Ted Cruze is blaming Reid for holding the American People hostage

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 05:10 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
I'm glad for myself that I've lived most of my life in relative comfort. I just feel sorry for the younger generation who must struggle to eek out a standard of living that resembles ours - all while our government makes it harder for them to survive.

Can't do anything about who votes for these yahoos who are better at destruction rather than construction.

I'll never forgive them for what they do. They're too ignorant to understand how many people are suffering from their political games.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 05:20 pm
From Business Insider.
Quote:
Top Republican Calls For Replacing Obamacare With Obamacare
JOSH BARRO OCT. 2, 2013, 3:37 PM 22,935 52

Darrell Issa health care
@DarrellIssa

Republicans often face criticism opposing Obamacare but having no plan to replace it.
So Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has been tweeting about his replacement proposal: Let every American participate in the Federal Employee Health Benefits program.

"Federal employees have long enjoyed high-quality, affordable health care benefits through this free market, consumer based system," says Issa.

I'm not exactly sure what Issa means when he calls FEHBP a "free market" system. The system does set up a marketplace where private health insurers offer plans that have to meet certain specifications, and then individuals choose the plans they like best.

That's also true of the Obamacare exchanges, which Republicans do not tend to think are very "free market."

In fact, FEHBP is similar to the Obamacare exchanges in a lot of ways.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/top-republican-calls-for-replacing-obamacare-with-obamacare-2013-10#ixzz2ghhwvatF


They don't know what they want; just more confusion and idiocy!
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 05:46 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

There are several groups that list Congress votes. They are usually single issue groups such as the NRA or NOW. It helps the single issue voter.

The problem with just listing votes is the bills the vote is on can be quite different from how they are portrayed. Congress will even go so far as to play political games with bills by inserting poison pills so they can claim someone voted against an issue. Example not from the real world. A bill titled The Teddy Bear Protection Act may have a provision to allow clubbing of baby seals. Anyone that voted against it would be attacked politically that they don't want to protect Teddy Bears.

Easy access to well summarized information can't be a bad thing.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 05:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

I'm glad for myself that I've lived most of my life in relative comfort.


There are many Americans "who have lived most of their lives in relative comfort,".....you are not unique. Many Americans have savings and diversified stocks, etc, with no financial worries, but this does not alter their concern for their lesser well-off brother. I am one of those who will always be distressed by the unfortunate among us, those who are exploited by "some" predatory Republicans. Like the obsessed politicians trying to get Obama to get rid of his signature achievement, the Affordable Health Care, which is now the law of the land.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 06:33 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Here's the real irony; big businesses have always supported republicans over democrats, because congress members were given money for their reelection campaigns which can cost millions.

What the GOP is doing today is to destroy our countries economy; that affects big business in addition to the many Americans who struggle financially. If consumers income drops or are totally destroyed, big businesses will suffer like everybody else. There's still a world recession, and the US cannot prop up the world when the GOP is hellbent on destroying our economy. Our economy is not that strong. We were chugging along at 1 to 2% increase. That's now been destroyed.

Are they as ignorant as the many Americans who continue to support the Tea Party?



hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 06:39 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
obama's primary "achievement" which those on the left increasingly believe us designed to fail so that fully governmental heathcare can be implimented aka is a lie.

would omama manipulate and lie to us? in a heartbeat!
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 06:45 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawk, You need to be able to determine by issue which ones were lied about and which ones are factual. You don't have the wherewithal to provide the necessary ability to provide correct or factual information with your broad brush strokes.

Nobody can question that Obama has lied. The issue of this thread is about the brinkmanship by the GOP in congress.

Is that concept too difficult for you?
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 06:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

Are they as ignorant as the many Americans who continue to support the Tea Party?


The Tea Party props up those unscrupulous politicians in Congress who will do the bidding of major corporations, and big business. Just "one" of the reasons they want to dismantle the Affordable Health Care is because of the Insurance companies who keep raising their prices for prescription medicine....these private insurance companies will be losing money because they will be competing with the Affordable Health Care enactment. Banks could charge higher interest rates without oversight, exploit the gullible public without regulations.

EPA officials said the shutdown would disrupt monitoring of air and water quality.

It could also set back the agency's efforts to advance Barack Obama's climate change agenda. "No one is going to be out inspecting water discharges, or wet lands. Nobody is going to be out inspecting waste water treatment plants, drinking water treatment plants, or landfills etc."
Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 06:55 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Good nite, CI. Another time.....
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IRFRANK
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 07:33 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Thanks Frank. We need more informed posters too.😊

The sad thing is, a large part of the citizenry probably thinks the way these folks responded. Like I said, the facts are not important, it's all about 'winning'.
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IRFRANK
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 07:35 pm
@cicerone imposter,
What they want is to oppose anything Obama touches.
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IRFRANK
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 07:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
You just proved my point. It's not about health care. It's about making Obama look bad. We know your reasons for thinking that way.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 07:50 pm
@IRFRANK,
IRFRANK wrote:

You just proved my point. It's not about health care. It's about making Obama look bad. We know your reasons for thinking that way.

I am not a D or an R, I just want America to work though I do consider myself a Zen Socialist.

Obama is looking better than that arogant dick with poor judgement has looked in a long while, you should be happy if you like him.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 09:17 pm
@hawkeye10,
You quack like a duck, so you must be a duck...
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 09:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Look how old this news article is - about government gridlock.
Quote:
McManus: The likely winner -- gridlock

Can either President Obama or Mitt Romney break the partisan logjam in Congress? Probably not.
November 04, 2012|Doyle McManus

Mitt Romney, left, and President Obama are seen at the final presidential debate in Boca Raton, Fla. Whoever wins the presidency is almost certain to face at least two years of divided government in Congress: a Republican House, a Democratic Senate.
After a year of campaign sound and fury, we're about to hold an election that will probably fail to usher in the one thing voters of all stripes would like to see: an end to the partisan gridlock in Congress.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 10:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

You quack like a duck, so you must be a duck...
but if i said I was black you would take me at me word even if I had pasty white skin......or if I said I was gay while with my hot wife when we met at the swingers club. your decisions on what to believe are political.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 3 Oct, 2013 10:45 pm
@hawkeye10,
That's not the same thing. You also fail to understand relationships by others who read your posts. These issues have nothing to do with "skin color."

BTW, you can also say your skin color is purple. I'd only respond, "that's your problem."

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 4 Oct, 2013 01:44 am
@cicerone imposter,
this place is a conversation between avitars, only the ideas are real for those of us who are not real life A2K'ers....again we find your brain swamped, because you are a real life member (visit other members in real life) your brain does not register that most of us are avatars. you know maybe 3% of who I am, because most of who I am does not power my avitar of Hawkeye10. for all you know I might be running another completely different sort of avitar as well as this one.

ideas matter, avitars do not. you will never inderstand, as you are too held hostage by your emotions.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 4 Oct, 2013 09:17 am
@hawkeye10,
I never claimed you were not a member of this web site. I'm just pointing out the weakness of your posts that uses huge brushes on issues that is being challenged by me.

I've told you to point out where I have lied or provided misinformation in any of my over 86,000 posts, but you have never done so.

Those are the issues.
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IRFRANK
 
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Reply Fri 4 Oct, 2013 09:46 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
for all you know I might be running another completely different sort of avitar as well as this one.


So, it's likely that you are a phony ?
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