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Ted Cruze is blaming Reid for holding the American People hostage

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2013 07:22 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
I strongly suggest that, of the several congressmen who teetered us to the brink, we institute some serious RECALL actions(ARTICLE 1 Section 5 of our Constitution)



An how are you going to get two thirds of congress to expel members of the party in power in the house?

There is no recall but for elections every 2 years for the house.


Quote:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution

Clause 2: Rules[edit]
Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a member.

Each House can determine its own Rules (assuming a quorum is present), and may punish any of its members. A two-thirds vote is necessary to expel a member. Section 5, Clause 2 does not provide specific guidance to each House regarding when and how each House may change its rules, leaving details to the respective chambers.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2013 10:12 am
@parados,
But, but, Ronny Raygun our savior, proposed these programs. They have to be correct.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2013 02:36 pm
@izzythepush,
If you don't regularly read her comments that's fine with me, but I would think that if you are going to comment on something someone writes in response to one of her posts it would help your comprehension if you read the post too.

Which stated fact is incorrect

Oswald was a self-professed communist?
Oswald served in the Marines?
Oswald killed Kennedy?

The Magic Bullet theory has been disproven.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2013 04:27 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
The Magic Bullet theory has been disproven.


Sez you. Like I said it's murky as ****. A lot of people don't think Oswald killed Kennedy, or that he was such a devout Communist. A lot of the official records remain sealed. The only thing you can say is that it's murky as ****.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2013 04:53 pm
@izzythepush,
There is a brand new book out about that killing and the author is pretty convincing that Oswald acted alone. He gives the Warren commission the razzberries, but agrees with the basic conclusion.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2013 05:05 pm
@edgarblythe,
That won't be the end of it though, there'll be other books. Then when certain documents that are being held under x amount of years rules are released, there'll be even more.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2013 05:10 pm
@edgarblythe,
Shouldent that properly be referred too as the Warren white washing commission? they wanted to make sure no one in the U S of A would be connected with the crime. Not that I dont agree with the conclusion, just the way it was arrived at.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2013 06:13 pm
@RABEL222,
I vaguely remember that the Warren Commission's report was not very popular with the media and the people, because they didn't reveal anything!
They only rehashed what was already known by most people.

It was a waste of time and money IMHO.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2013 07:03 pm
I watched the author of the book I mentioned on a talk show. I don't have perfect recall and so will not try to encapsulate what he thinks. But one point he made is the recording of "four shots."
This from a web site:
It turns out that the motorcycle cop whose radio was transmitting was not where the investigators believed him to be when they did their tests. He was actually more than two miles away in a place where his radio could not have picked up the sound of gunshots.
The firm Sonalysts concluded that some of the sound impressions on the recordings that were interpreted as gunfire a generation ago are nearly identical to other sound impressions earlier on the tape that are definitively not gun shots.
“In fact, there are no less than twelve similar impulses in a period spanning just over a three-minute segment of the open microphone audio,” Sabato writes, guessing that they are probably “of a mechanical origin associated with the motorcycle.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/sabato-jfk-book-kennedy-assassination-theory-98245.html#ixzz2iPNV3QdG
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2013 08:39 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Sez you. Like I said it's murky as ****. A lot of people don't think Oswald killed Kennedy,
And Im sure that many of those people have written books in order to "cash in " on guys like you. The laser recreated "firing lines' as seen on the Zapruder film were the first piece of data that showed the trajectory from the Book Depository window WAS UNDENIABLY the origin of the bullet that took off Kennedy's skull.

The theries of
1we didn't land on the moon
2The Nazca lines were done for alien observers

3Dinosaurs live in Africa
4A plesiosaur lives in Loch Ness
Yetis live all over the planet
etc etc etc

have , along with Kennedy's demise, been pretty much debunked as mere hype for commercial gain

McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2013 09:01 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:
Sez you. Like I said it's murky as ****. A lot of people don't think Oswald killed Kennedy,
And Im sure that many of those people have written books in order to "cash in " on guys like you. The laser recreated "firing lines' as seen on the Zapruder film were the first piece of data that showed the trajectory from the Book Depository window WAS UNDENIABLY the origin of the bullet that took off Kennedy's skull.

The theries of
1we didn't land on the moon
2The Nazca lines were done for alien observers

3Dinosaurs live in Africa
4A plesiosaur lives in Loch Ness
Yetis live all over the planet
etc etc etc

have , along with Kennedy's demise, been pretty much debunked as mere hype for commercial gain




Don't forget 9/11 being an inside job and the face on Mars.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2013 09:36 pm
@farmerman,
This is how I remember it.
From Answers.com.
Quote:
What was the conclusion of the warren commission about lee harveys oswalds role in the jfk assassination?
In: US Presidents, Conspiracy Theories, John F. Kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald
Answer:
Its 888-page final report was presented to President Johnson on September 24, 1964, and made public three days later. It concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in the killing of Kennedy and the wounding of Texas Governor John Connally, and that Jack Ruby acted alone in the murder of Oswald. The Commission's findings have since proven controversial and been both challenged and supported by later studies.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 22 Oct, 2013 01:35 am
@farmerman,
That's right, change the subject, talk about other things, as if that will boost your credibility. Stick to Kennedy, not your other pet subjects.

I've not bought any books on Kennedy, I've not offered an opinion other than it's murky as ****. You're the one who is insisting things happened in a particular way.

farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 22 Oct, 2013 04:46 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
That's right, change the subject, talk about other things, as if that will boost your credibility. Stick to Kennedy, not your other pet subjects.
I assume you were not talking to me.
Perhaps the "Murky as ****" is induced delusion by folks with products to market.
Most of the conspiracy theorists in several occurences of history, have fared well financially by peddling hypotheses counter to official investigation

Eric Von Daniken made over 37 million bucks from his first 2 books about the 1978Nazca Lines. He later expanded his territory to include **** about how the ARk of the Covenant is actually a capacitor.

Kennedy assassination is like that. The conpiracists take a story that people WANT to believe in and then manufacture dubious evidence to support the story. Turning a fact inside out is much of the palette of modern fiction.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 22 Oct, 2013 04:49 am
@farmerman,
I suppose you're right, it's always best to think what the Government tells you to think, and ridicule anyone who doesn't swallow that message to the letter.

If Snowden hadn't let the cat out of the bag, you'd similarly be ridiculing those who claimed that America spies on its allies.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 22 Oct, 2013 04:58 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:


I suppose you're right, it's always best to think what the Government tells you to think,


And just accepting something that is counter to conventional evidence is automatically considered "advanced logic"

yeh I get it.
We listened to you play that song at Yorktown.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 22 Oct, 2013 05:05 am
@farmerman,
I've not accepted anything. You're the one insisting that what you say is right.

I've said the whole thing is as murky as ****. I suppose you see nothing strange in allowing the manager of the local titty bar to kill Oswald. Really followed security protocols there.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 22 Oct, 2013 05:11 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
We listened to you play that song at Yorktown.


In other words you killed a load of Britons at Yorktown, and if I don't shut my mouth I'll get the same. You do have enough occupying soldiers to do that.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 22 Oct, 2013 05:46 am
It wasn't so much that we killed a lot fb British (no Britons left by then) at Yorktown as that we cornered them and cut off their food supplies. Like sensible people, they surrendered.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 22 Oct, 2013 05:53 am
According to Wikipedia, there were 18,900 Americans and French, and 9000 Brits and Germans at the seige of Yorktown. There were 88 Americans and Frenchmen killed, and 302 wounded. There were 142-309 Brits and Germans killed, and 326 to 595 wounded--the rest were made prisoner. (The article lists Greene, Jerome A. (2005). The Guns of Independence: The Siege of Yorktown, 1781. New York: Savas Beattie. ISBN 1-932714-05-7. as the source for British casualties. The discrepancies would be a result of poor records keeping.)

For the numbers involved, those are very low casualty figures.
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